Zephron
Smash Ace
You do need Homebrew, but if you want to try to find a way to get it to work without it, be my guest. But you'll be on your own doing it.
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Tales of Brawl - Innerscope has released Lloyd 2.0!
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ryuu seika
Smash Master
So this whole "Yeah, you can avoid modding your Wii if you work out how to use Smash Stacks" or whatever was said was just to get my hopes up then?
Zephron
Smash Ace
I don't really know what that is, so basically you're either going to mod your wii the normal way or do it some weirdo way that no one can help you with if it blows.
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
Zephron doesn't know what he's talking about.
Smash stack, if that's the thing I'm thinking about, will ALWAYS work.
I don't know the file structure and how to work it exactly, but basically, you can load one homebrew application through brawl. Generally, it's gecko. Possibly riivolution? Idk I riivolution will work through smash stack.
Just google smash stack and go to the wiibrew site.
Smash stack, if that's the thing I'm thinking about, will ALWAYS work.
I don't know the file structure and how to work it exactly, but basically, you can load one homebrew application through brawl. Generally, it's gecko. Possibly riivolution? Idk I riivolution will work through smash stack.
Just google smash stack and go to the wiibrew site.
stickman
Smash Apprentice
As long as the application is an elf file, it can load through smash stack. So no, you don't have to mod your wii to get this to work, but it is just more inconvenient
ryuu seika
Smash Master
So does this or does this not mean I can keep my firmware to avoid problems that modifying it might cause and still have Lloyd?
"Smash Stack currently only works on the NTSC-U version of the game"
Well isn't that just great.
EDIT: I'll look into getting my Wii fixed some time soon, then actually get it fixed when my family aren't using it, then buy Brawl and unlock everyone, then finally think about modding for Lloyd afterwards.
"Smash Stack currently only works on the NTSC-U version of the game"
Well isn't that just great.
EDIT: I'll look into getting my Wii fixed some time soon, then actually get it fixed when my family aren't using it, then buy Brawl and unlock everyone, then finally think about modding for Lloyd afterwards.
There's an entire help forum dedicated to answering these sorts of questions, filled with people who know this stuff like the back of their hand and hang around there just to help people. You'd get answered a lot faster there and with more clarity probably. Just saying.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Yeah but, seeing as I'm doing this for Lloyd and Lloyd alone, I figured it was better to post in the Lloyd section. That way, if there were odd issues with Lloyd that prevented certain methods and such (don't ask me, I'm new to this) then people here would keep me informed. People outside of here don't know this Lloyd.
TommoPuppy
Smash Lord
Yeah, no. You're better off posting in the help section. There isn't really anything specific to Lloyd that you need to worry about.
Richter Abend
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One question I have about Lloyd's animations....
I know the fall, land, recovery and guard break animations are important, but is there any chance the swim animations could be done? I found a new, very strange glitch related to that.
If Lloyd is hit by an electric hitbox while swimming, his polygons splash just like when fire hitboxes hit him during command grabs. Looking over the irony of electricity and water, I don't get this glitch very often, but the end results are the same as the command grab glitch: Either my game crashes, or he teleports to a random part of the stage, completely back to normal.
I know the fall, land, recovery and guard break animations are important, but is there any chance the swim animations could be done? I found a new, very strange glitch related to that.
If Lloyd is hit by an electric hitbox while swimming, his polygons splash just like when fire hitboxes hit him during command grabs. Looking over the irony of electricity and water, I don't get this glitch very often, but the end results are the same as the command grab glitch: Either my game crashes, or he teleports to a random part of the stage, completely back to normal.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Perform Tiger Blade imediately after the glitch.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Hate 'dem polygon splashes.
Zephron
Smash Ace
Just wanted to note that I'm not dead, just busy.
School is taking up a lot of my time and I can't go on Skype as often.
If anyone needs my help, PM me here or on AiB.
School is taking up a lot of my time and I can't go on Skype as often.
If anyone needs my help, PM me here or on AiB.
Richter Abend
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And that fixes the polygon splash?
ryuu seika
Smash Master
It might do.
JediKnightTemplar
Smash Lord
I know progress is never consistent with stuff like this, but I was just wondering how this is coming along. I wouldn't expect it to be near completion, but some news, even animation progress, would be appreciated.
Richter Abend
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Don't expect an update too often. With school in full force, I doubt significant progress could be achieved.
No offense to the team. Just speaking logically.
Richter Abend
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I also happen to have found two more polygon splash instances.
A: If Tempest is used on Castle Siege continuously.
B: If Tempest is used on Halberd stage and damage is done to Lloyd.
Not sure if these happen to anyone else, but they happen to me.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Now that sounds like a real problem.
Anyway, the Tiger Blade thing was simply because that's how Kuukanshouten'i ends.
Also, IIRC, it's half term soon.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Yeah, I'm in my 9th week of 16, but I'm also getting Windows really soon too.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Just a though but weren't we struggling with the last costume? I'm thinking a cameo costume would fit in well. My choice would be Richter or some other fire based character so we could alter Tempest and Rising Falcon to look like their Fire versions (without any actual change to how they work). This would not only give us the cameo costume colour that SSB seems so fond of but it would also be a great way of getting Kaenrekku into Brawl without having to find space in his movelist for it or resorting to Dawn voices (which suck).
Zephron
Smash Ace
Sorry, but you can't have a costume have different graphics on his/her moveset, compared to the other costumes.
I haven't played ToS2, but if anyone wants to make a costume for that person, be my guest.
...we weren't struggling with the last costume though, it's the Beach outfit.
I decided not to work on it because no other work is being done and we have better things to do if we want to be productive.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Ok, I though you lot were saying that the beach costume required an annoying amount of polygon work.
No matter though, while others may or may not have liked the idea of a cameo costume, I just wanted Kaenrekku. I know I won't be getting it though.
No matter though, while others may or may not have liked the idea of a cameo costume, I just wanted Kaenrekku. I know I won't be getting it though.
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
that could be done, but it wouldnt be texture specific. it would apply to all textures.
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
not sure if youre talking to me, but regardless.
as far as i know, that is not possible.
as far as i know, that is not possible.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
GFX onto a move would be PSA-related and as such, attached to all costumes.
TommoPuppy
Smash Lord
Wolf's gun is an external graphic stored inside the character file, actually, and it hasn't been modified yet. Either way, I don't think it's worth spending hours to get different different Tempest effects per costume, just for a minor detail like that.
As Zeph said, they have better things to do if they want to be productive.
As Zeph said, they have better things to do if they want to be productive.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Yeah but you can't just replace Tempest with Kaenrekku, that's not right either.
That they do.
If I knew the first thing about hacking smash (and actually had the means to do it), I'd spend months on it if that's what it took. I just love Kaenrekku. I don't know why.
I'd probably throw in Omega aswell while I was at it but I'd never use it over good ol' Blazing.
SqLeon
Smash Journeyman
might be possible to have an effect on one costume. Maybe.......
ManicHedgehog
Smash Rookie
It is possible IF:
A)The effect only needs one bone
B)If your willing to take hours to add new bones to the PSA.
A)The effect only needs one bone
B)If your willing to take hours to add new bones to the PSA.
Richter Abend
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Hrm. Thinking about it, now....
What did you guys intend to work on the first chance you had to work on it? AKA What's the first hurdle you want to jump?
What did you guys intend to work on the first chance you had to work on it? AKA What's the first hurdle you want to jump?
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Can you guys test something for me?
After putting Gray Fox's ef.pac in properly, I looked at the Sword Glow parameters in the Assist trophy version and noticed that the Glow's refer to the flie labled 00000000.
The Color ID's(The first prameters) were E(Orange) and F(Light Blue)....
They work on my Gray Fox perfectly.
Saki's points to the same file and it's color ID is 3(Fuschia)...........
Ditto For Lyn with the ID 15(Gray)....
Can you guys test these for on Lloyd to see if the colors come up???
After putting Gray Fox's ef.pac in properly, I looked at the Sword Glow parameters in the Assist trophy version and noticed that the Glow's refer to the flie labled 00000000.
The Color ID's(The first prameters) were E(Orange) and F(Light Blue)....
They work on my Gray Fox perfectly.
Saki's points to the same file and it's color ID is 3(Fuschia)...........
Ditto For Lyn with the ID 15(Gray)....
Can you guys test these for on Lloyd to see if the colors come up???
SqLeon
Smash Journeyman
set parameter 11 in the swordglow command to 00000000 and change the color to one of those to see if there is color?
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Yes.
If not, you may be able to use EFLS editing as in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtCMejIpPE&feature=player_embedded
to insert a proper Sword Glow for Lloyd and inset the glow textures in the ef.pac.
You should try to get Gray Fox's effects so that both blades can have their own color trails.
Or try to figure out Marth's.
If not, you may be able to use EFLS editing as in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtCMejIpPE&feature=player_embedded
to insert a proper Sword Glow for Lloyd and inset the glow textures in the ef.pac.
You should try to get Gray Fox's effects so that both blades can have their own color trails.
Or try to figure out Marth's.
SqLeon
Smash Journeyman
that was an awesome video. will have to try it out tomorrow.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
So we may well get Lloyd sword glow after all? SWEET!
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
EY, you rock. This will really add to Lloyd's animations and flow with his swords.
EDIT: I got Windows 7 recently and I'm currently grabbing Brawl hacking utilities. I'm hoping to have time during Winter Break and in spots around November to try and learn a couple things.
EDIT: I got Windows 7 recently and I'm currently grabbing Brawl hacking utilities. I'm hoping to have time during Winter Break and in spots around November to try and learn a couple things.
Ultraxwing
Smash Ace
YEASSHHH!!!
sword trails, no lloyd will have appropriate thing going on. lets just hope you can get the sword trails color to be different depeding on his moves like marth.
oh we can never forget these.
just remember dwarven vow #7
Goodness and Love will always win...
oh and number 16
you can do anything if you try.
sword trails, no lloyd will have appropriate thing going on. lets just hope you can get the sword trails color to be different depeding on his moves like marth.
oh we can never forget these.
just remember dwarven vow #7
Goodness and Love will always win...
oh and number 16
you can do anything if you try.