Commander_Alph
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Welp, I'm out of idea
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It appears I also forgot to do this Venus of the Desert Bloom . Apologies!Hm, upon rereading the original post it appears I have forgotten to do one thing. Pinging! Venus of the Desert Bloom , may I join?
That’s a good question. Considering we would have to go into third party negotiations to include him, let’s wait on submitting him for now. We will be doing third party in the near future so let’s wait for them.Venus of the Desert Bloom Does Geno count for the first category? He's third party but from a first party franchise.
Also, I'd like to join this thread! I plan on stopping by frequently.
I checked the count and I got a different tally. Unless there's something I missed, I think it should beThe Pokeball results are in but feel free to tally themselves to ensure the votes are fair and accurate!
These will be added on the front page.
Wooloo GoodGrief741 10
Galarian Stunfrisk PeridotGX 9
Cramorant Perkilator 7
Snom/Frosmoth @Garteam 6
Sirfecth’d Ramen Tengoku 4
Appletun @CheeseAnton 3
Eiscue Commander_Alph 3
Enternatus Otoad64 2
Flapple Venus of the Desert Bloom 2
Perrserker @cashregister9 1
Centiskorch MamaLuigi123456 0
Barraskewda SharkLord 0
Dottler @Pokelego999 0
Thank you to everyone who submitted Pokémon! Please consider submitting the ones that didn’t get voted on earlier again, tweek them, or submit a different one in the future!
Yeah, I thought about that, but I'm a big fan of Dixie and I had to put the option out there for her to be unique. I really hope I don't end up costing her a spot altogether!I.... uh wonder if Dixie (and any other character in the future) being in both character 1 and 2 camps is going to cause vote splitting.
Probably won't even if she doesn't get in this time around, since it's likely there'll be lots of other opportunities for her to get in! So I wouldn't worry about that,Yeah, I thought about that, but I'm a big fan of Dixie and I had to put the option out there for her to be unique. I really hope I don't end up costing her a spot altogether!
Basically this. We will be including a number of characters and, even if one character doesn’t get picked, it doesn’t mean they are forever out of the running.Probably won't even if she doesn't get in this time around, since it's likely there'll be lots of other opportunities for her to get in! So I wouldn't worry about that,
I'm absolutley for Medusa as a new Villain for the line-up, especially since we don't really have a truley unique villainess. That said, I'm against the idea of making her an echo, as I really don't think that fits the character and there is a lot more unique you can do with her as a concept.Character #2: Medusa (Kid Icarus) 54e
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Once upon a time in Angel Land, there were two goddesses, who ruled the land together in peace. However, while the goddess of light Palutena, fostered humanity, the goddess of darkness Medusa despised them, to the point where she dried up their crops and petrified them. In a fit of rage, Palutena transformed her into a hideous cyclops and banished her.
Medusa was the original main villain of the Kid Icarus franchise would echo Palutena, reimplementing the custom moves that Palutena used in Smash 4. Plus, Smash Bros needs more villains, and there are very little things more villainous than a goddess of darkness.
To prevent that, can I submit multiple concept of echoes? Since echo fighter is usually a carbon copy of the original I doubt it will take that long for me to come up?It seems to me that the options for Echoes are running dry. I have a few in mind but not worthy of an E3 reveal. We will commence voting in 8 hours.
If Black Shadow is getting Ganondorf's moveset, and Ganondorf wasn't an echo, why would Black Shadow be an echo?Here's my thoughts on Black Shadow: I reckon we take the opportunity to redo Ganondorf's moveset, and then add Black Shadow in as an echo. Since Ganondorf wouldn't be a Falcon clone in this case, the only option is as fighter number #11ε, as an echo of Captain Falcon.
Also, that's why we would reveal him at E3 - because we'd also show off the new Ganon as well, which feels like an E3-worthy thing.
Simple, we make him 's Echo and give him a mix between 's old moveset and 's current moveset.If Black Shadow is getting Ganondorf's moveset, and Ganondorf wasn't an echo, why would Black Shadow be an echo?
Echo-hood is kind of made-up and doesn't make that much sense to begin with. See: Ken. It's a marketing thing more than anything.If Black Shadow is getting Ganondorf's moveset, and Ganondorf wasn't an echo, why would Black Shadow be an echo?
but what's the difference between that and Smash 4 Ganon? I feel like you're starting with "Black Shadow as a Falcon echo" and going back to justify it later.Simple, we make him 's Echo and give him a mix between 's old moveset and 's current moveset.
At some point, yesOn that topic, will this roster have a non-echo, semi-clone/pseudo clone or two, ala Isabelle and wolf? I have a couple ideas for those
That is certainly an interesting concept and i didnt consider that perhaps somf veterans may change in the future. I didnt consider that some fighters could change later in our debelopment.Here's my thoughts on Black Shadow: I reckon we take the opportunity to redo Ganondorf's moveset, and then add Black Shadow in as an echo. Since Ganondorf wouldn't be a Falcon clone in this case, the only option is as fighter number #11ε, as an echo of Captain Falcon.
Also, that's why we would reveal him at E3 - because we'd also show off the new Ganon as well, which feels like an E3-worthy thing.
In the case of this, he has both Ganon’s and Falcon’s attack’s, plus Falcon’s move speed and Ganon’s weight.but what's the difference between that and Smash 4 Ganon? I feel like you're starting with "Black Shadow as a Falcon echo" and going back to justify it later.
but they are the same attacks.In the case of this, he has both Ganon’s and Falcon’s attack’s, plus Falcon’s move speed and Ganon’s weight.
sigh Lemme show you what I mean with Black Shadow as a Falcon Echo:but. they. are. the. same. attacks.
and Ganondorf with Falcon's speed would be broken.
yeah that's fair.Gotta say, I didn't expect there to be so much Black Shadow discussion. I'm glad, but maybe we should hold that until after voting? He might not make the cut after all.
I do have some ideas for how could be improved, and would be happy to share them when the time comes.Link having the BoTW design and moveset inspiration was a pretty big thing when Ultimate was first announced, so some time to discuss major changes to previously existing fighters definitely feels like a good idea.