Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Jedisupersonic]

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Drats I was just about to post this. Ninja :/ lol

 

[Luco]

I think the 3DS version was meant to be able to allow you to customise your character in terms of directionality of moves. I could be wrong but I envision this as like, Mario's cape reflecting things that come from behind him or other examples of hitbox placement and its movement.

That's what i'm hoping for because that to me seems to allow for balancing if needed. Could be totally off point, though.

That's my short answer heh. Too cold right now to type too much more.

 

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Just as a quick question before I head off, I wonder how having two versions will effect the competitive scene?

Will there be two backrooms? Will you have to be good enough at both versions to get in should there only be one? How will rulesets work?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

There's a certain art style difference between the two games i've noticed. Both of these are Wii-U though ^_^

Yeah, I got the information some time ago. Thanks, though.

Also, nice image, but where's mah Yoshi?

 

[Deleted member]

Just as a quick question before I head off, I wonder how having two versions will effect the competitive scene?

Will there be two backrooms? Will you have to be good enough at both versions to get in should there only be one? How will rulesets work?

Sakurai did refer to both games as a fourth and fifth version so I'd imagined that the scene would be different competitively.

Edit: Found something very interesting in regards to Sonic and Smash: http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=206106

NWR: One more question here. Sonic was very popular in Smash Bros. for Wii. Is there any possibility of him making a return appearance in the next Smash Bros.?

TI: All we can say is that we also think it would be awesome if he was in the next Smash Bros. So yea, but that's more of a question for Nintendo than us.

I doubt he's allowed to reveal anything in regards to the matter, so I don't think it means all that much, but take this as you will.

Going to bed... good night.

 

[Banjodorf]

Sakurai did refer to both games as a fourth and fifth version so I'd imagined that the scene would be different competitively.

In addition, I expect both versions will be not quite the same in terms of balance, and since the stages will be mostly different, they'll have a totally different meta game regardless.

I'm going with two seperate backrooms.

 

[Oasis_S]

I would imagine the balance between the two would be near identical. I think that kind of data would definitely be an asset that could be shared between the two during development, which would lessen the workload greatly. I had been thinking, pre-reveal, the 3DS version might have to have a different style completely, meaning different models and animations, meaning a different balance. But the visual style they've gone for allows all the same models (they're the same designs at least, though much less detailed) and animations, so I think shared balance could happen.

EDIT: It is possible the screen size or controls could contribute to differing balance, I suppose. Perhaps throws couldn't be as powerful, or running couldn't be as fast, since you wouldn't want things to go off screen too quickly. Maybe you don't jump as high. I guess the controls would be a weaker argument, considering Brawl's 4 ways of play.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Golden had to crush Diddy's skull in multiple times, that I can assure. Then again the mongrel kind of deserved that, so no tears were shed.

Am still trying to OD on weed.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

Am still trying to OD on weed.

If you get high, does that mean I can do things to you while you're in that state? I can't be held liable for any damages.

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Would be hilarious if this were some new ****ty aerial they gave him, a little wimpy sword thrust. "ENGH..!"

 

[IsmaR]

I guess the controls would be a weaker argument, considering Brawl's 4 ways of play.

This is a terrible argument. I meant Brawl wasn't even the first game you could do that. You could play Smash 64 with the N64, GC, or Classic controller!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

This is a terrible argument. I meant Brawl wasn't even the first game you could do that. You could play Smash 64 with the N64, GC, or Classic controller!

So is this. Smash 64 couldn't be played with the Classic Controller(and the GC only through Emulation at best) till after Brawl. Brawl came out before the VC version.

What made it(Oasis_S') a terrible argument is that the controls were actually good and worked for everyone. The various controls were great. There was never anything wrong with 'em. Everybody had something that worked.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If you get high, does that mean I can do things to you while you're in that state? I can't be held liable for any damages.

No you probably can't. Am too experienced.

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

Speaking of Wario, they should give him some moves akin to his original debut in mario land 2.
Perhaps the rabbit ears or the air ass drop. OH OH, and a remix of his boss fight theme, I loved that tune back on the gameboy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5jYnnyIB68

Also, someone tell me how to embed vids on here.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

I guess I should've seen that coming. Doesn't mean I wouldn't try to inflict some damage, though.


I saw that comparison pic of the Zelda stage to PM's version of it. Prettycool.

 

[Luco]

Woah, I just realised something going through the pics!

Mario's Uair looks buffed in terms of hitbox placement. Does the slash through the air infer where the attack has been? Or if not, does it have it's own hitbox? Mario's Uair just seems... I dunno, bigger in some way:

Also notice Mario's leg looks gigantic here too...

EDIT: And why does Mario look like he has a rash on his neck? :/

And that's another thing! Pause in smash 4 seems to allow you to zoom in more than in Brawl!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Sakurai specifically made outlines of attacks and had their models increase limb size temporarily. It's similar to how the first Smash did.

I think that's lighting for the Mario picture.

An updated Pause? Sweet.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Woah, I just realised something going through the pics!

Mario's Uair looks buffed in terms of hitbox placement. Does the slash through the air infer where the attack has been? Or if not, does it have it's own hitbox? Mario's Uair just seems... I dunno, bigger in some way:

Also notice Mario's leg looks gigantic here too...

EDIT: And why does Mario look like he has a rash on his neck? :/

And that's another thing! Pause in smash 4 seems to allow you to zoom in more than in Brawl!

LOL rash

I doubt this confirms an increased zoom in and out threshold. The game has ways to go and this could just be a build where such limitations/ features have been established.
I bet money that Sakurai could zoom into Mario until the camera starts clipping into the geometry.
It's too early to determine anything about features like that.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I'm sorry,, but no one is discussing this piece of "news". It's a bit irrelevant, but I found it hysterical. Here's the link:

http://kotaku.com/this-real-life-version-of-super-smash-bros-looks-rad-561792559

 

[Z1GMA]

Sakurai said that he gets a lot Character Suggestions from all over the world.
How do you think Character Suggestions and Game Ideas reach him?

Woah, I just realised something going through the pics!

Mario's Uair looks buffed in terms of hitbox placement. Does the slash through the air infer where the attack has been? Or if not, does it have it's own hitbox? Mario's Uair just seems... I dunno, bigger in some way:

Also notice Mario's leg looks gigantic here too...

EDIT: And why does Mario look like he has a rash on his neck? :/

And that's another thing! Pause in smash 4 seems to allow you to zoom in more than in Brawl!

Weird rashes confirmed !

 

[FlareHabanero]

Sakurai said that he gets a lot Character Suggestions from all over the world.
How do you think Character Suggestions and Game Ideas reach him?

The internet.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Sakurai said that he gets a lot Character Suggestions from all over the world.
How do you think Character Suggestions and Game Ideas reach him?

Carrier pigeons.

 

[Z1GMA]

The internet.

Not quite the accurate answer I was looking for, but never mind.

 

[HylianHero]

Hey, I was just on smashbros.com to check the new picture posted up top on my iPod and I noticed something. I don't know if it's like this on a computer, but I clicked on a character page, and at the bottom you can scroll sideways through pictures of the other characters. After Pit, who has been the last one, there were three blank pictures after him where characters should be, when he's been the last until today. Do you think that means we'll get like a yoshi page soon or something?? It's not really a big deal but I noticed it and thought I'd ask if anyone else saw it

On second thought, maybe it's been like that and I just noticed, but it's definitely there.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Not quite the accurate answer I was looking for, but never mind.

I was being serious, he get's the ideas on what people would like from the internet. The internet is a very practical medium for expressing your feelings and ideals.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Hey, I was just on smashbros.com to check the new picture posted up top on my iPod and I noticed something. I don't know if it's like this on a computer, but I clicked on a character page, and at the bottom you can scroll sideways through pictures of the other characters. After Pit, who has been the last one, there were three blank pictures after him where characters should be, when he's been the last until today. Do you think that means we'll get like a yoshi page soon or something?? It's not really a big deal but I noticed it and thought I'd ask if anyone else saw it

On second thought, maybe it's been like that and I just noticed, but it's definitely there.

I'm pretty sure it's always been like that, I think it just may be because you're using an iPod. I'm hoping for some type of news though!

 

[Wario Bros.]

Hey, I was just on smashbros.com to check the new picture posted up top on my iPod and I noticed something. I don't know if it's like this on a computer, but I clicked on a character page, and at the bottom you can scroll sideways through pictures of the other characters. After Pit, who has been the last one, there were three blank pictures after him where characters should be, when he's been the last until today. Do you think that means we'll get like a yoshi page soon or something?? It's not really a big deal but I noticed it and thought I'd ask if anyone else saw it

On second thought, maybe it's been like that and I just noticed, but it's definitely there.

It's pretty much looking like those blank spaces mean absolutely nothing as the number of blank spaces are different depending what you're using to browse that site. You're iPod shows 3 spaces while my desktop computer shows 6. So yeah, it doesn't mean anything when it comes to possible characters.

 

[Z1GMA]

I was being serious, he get's the ideas on what people would like from the internet. The internet is a very practical medium for expressing your feelings and ideals.

So he's Casual Surfin' and gets inspired? Neat.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

No, Zigma, that's not it.

There's a whole article dedicated to the character selection process, not to mention countless other interviews with Sakurai himself.

If you actually bothered to look, you'd know this.

Smooth Criminal

 

[FlareHabanero]

So what, wanting to know what the fans would want has nothing to do with actually knowing what the fans would want?

I guess the stuff we got were mere coincidence.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

wat

Smooth Criminal

 

[FlareHabanero]

wat

それがどうした、実際には、ファンがほしいと思い何を知っていることとは何の関係もあり、ファンがほしい何かを理解したいですか?

私たちは得たもの偶然だったと推測します。

Now do you understand?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I'm immune to your snark, Pepper-face. I'll give you an 'A' for effort, but goose eggs for your momentary lapse in reading comprehension (e.g. Zigma's post/original question). I answered he/she adequately enough.



Smooth Criminal

 

[8-peacock-8]

Huge leeeeeeek gaiz!

 

[FlareHabanero]

Huge leeeeeeek gaiz!

"Get ready for some REAL greed!"

 

[~automatic]

I like how the Tekken ring has a King of Iron Fist marquee in the BG while the SMash veriosn has a Smash Bros one.

Even Namco's influence on the game can be seen in the aesthetics.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I like how the Tekken ring has a King of Iron Fist marquee in the BG while the SMash veriosn has a Smash Bros one.

Even Namco's influence on the game can be seen in the aesthetics.

Now King wants to team up with Wario.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It's pretty much looking like those blank spaces mean absolutely nothing as the number of blank spaces are different depending what you're using to browse that site. You're iPod shows 3 spaces while my desktop computer shows 6. So yeah, it doesn't mean anything when it comes to possible characters.

He's right. They're just placeholders as is, and while we know there will be more characters anyway, there's no guarantee they'll show an exact number of a multiple of 3.(like 27 or 39 overall characters) Also, it may not even reveal things like Zero Suit Samus with her own page this time like the rest.

I'm guessing we'll get Yoshi soon enough. I do wonder if Ness or Captain Falcon will be starters again, though. Jigglypuff I wouldn't mind either. Luigi always made sense as an unlockable though. He's kind of the last of current main Mario characters.(I'm using their symbol to refer to as Mario characters, not characters in the overall series, to clarify) And sometimes doesn't show up like the other 3. Or has no role in the overall story.(first two Paper Marios, same with Sticker Star)

 

[Jaedrik]

Every time I see a picture of SSB4 Link I get more and more pissed.
The edges of his chainmail look like low resolution frayed linen cloth, it sucks, and every SINGLE time there's skirt clipping, it looks absolutely horrible.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Personally speaking, Marth, Captain Falcon, and Ness should be default characters this time around. Which reminds me of how odd how Marth and Ness were unlockable while the alternative reps Ike and Lucas were default characters.

Every time I see a picture of SSB4 Link I get more and more pissed.
The edges of his chainmail look like low resolution frayed linen cloth, it sucks, and every SINGLE time there's skirt clipping, it looks absolutely horrible.

 

[Frostwraith]

Every time I see a picture of SSB4 Link I get more and more pissed.
The edges of his chainmail look like low resolution frayed linen cloth, it sucks, and every SINGLE time there's skirt clipping, it looks absolutely horrible.

The game is still in development and will only be released on the next year.

...Do the math?