Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[KingofPhantoms]

Umm.... actually no, I'm not.

My bad then. If you are saying one of the most recent games need someone to represent it in Smash though, it doesn't. That's what it sounded like to me.

 

[MexM]

Little Mac should do that. lol

 

[Johnknight1]

You're right, I have no knowledge of what you mean, but, I am not arguing. I am guessing you take more than I do into account when talking about DLC. Also, it wouldn't kill you to be a little nicer. You see, when I think DLC, I think of characters or Maps being offered for a fee months after the game came out, almost like a "mini game" being bought.

You are talking about a small sample size of DLC. I am talking about ALL KINDS OF DLC, the LITERALLY DEFINITION OF DLC!!!

It is like you are using the word "Giants" to mean only the baseball team, when I can use it to describe Giant People, giant plates of food, giant rivers, giant planets, etc etc etc.

 

[greenluigiman2]

My bad then. If you are saying one of the most recent games need someone to represent it in Smash though, it doesn't. That's what it sounded like to me.

No, what I was saying is that the "He's from the most recent game" is the only part that mattered in my post. I added the "most successful" part because I was under the impression that FE13 was the most successful, but that point didn't really matter to the overall reason I wanted Chrom to be in the game.

I wasn't saying that him being in the most recent game is all that matters as far as his inclusion is concerned.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

You are talking about a small sample size of DLC. I am talking about ALL KINDS OF DLC, the LITERALLY DEFINITION OF DLC!!!

It is like you are using the word "Giants" to mean only the baseball team, when I can use it to describe Giant People, giant plates of food, giant rivers, giant planets, etc etc etc.

You are not me. I am not you. We have our own opinions, to which are very different. Lets agree to disagree and stop "Arguing" as you put it.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Too bad FE discussion always ends like this. :/

Guys, calm down a bit.

 

[Fatmanonice]

1. I was more referring to the whole "Alph would not have worked because he shared his main protagonist role with two other characters" which is the same case with FE13.

2. I don't buy that because Mother 3 (64)'s Lucas looks much different from the final Mother 3's Lucas. I do know Sakurai originally intended to bring in Lucas with Melee, but Mother 3 GBA as a whole was basically a game that was announced in mid 2003, and had absolutely no details on it until 2006. So Sakurai had to have had inside information about the game when deciding the roster for Brawl to know who the main protagonist was and what he looked like, and what his abilities were.

But Chrom is still definitively the lead character. Of the other two (I assume you're talking about Lucina and the avatar), he's definitely the lead role especially when he faceplants into the whole "blue haired protagonist" schtick the series loves to run with. For Lucas, it's still Lucas. If you look at the old trailer and the game that eventually came out, you can see that they still share the same characters and arguably the same story.

Also, this:


Isn't too much of a stretch to this:

 

[FlareHabanero]

Too bad FE discussion always ends like this. :/

Every discussion ever summed up in one image.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Too bad FE discussion always ends like this. :/

Guys, calm down a bit.

This.

This is a major reason why I dislike FE discussion, along with how often it comes up. (or used to at least)

Heck, even if I played FE, I think I'd rather NOT get into Fire Emblem character discussion.

 

[greenluigiman2]

Too bad FE discussion always ends like this. :/

Guys, calm down a bit.

I was just giving my FE suggestions, and suddenly I find people misinterpreting my posts and jumping down my throat about it. Besides, this is the first time I've ever actually given my thoughts on which FE characters should be in the game. It's not a big deal, what's with the hostility?

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Every discussion ever summed up in one image.

Pretty much this.

The worst part is it'll probably disappoint people or we'll all predict what will happen.

 

[ChronoBound]

Can you spare the time to explain why Ike and Chrom are redundant? I mean yeah sure they both have blue-hair and both posses the ability to do aether, but other than that they seem different to me in fighting styles and strength.

They have similar strength and both have an attack animation that resembles Quick Draw. They both also wield a two-handed sword, and have a mercenary motif with their designs. Chrom also originally had the same color scheme as Ike did, so they were definitely thinking about Ike when designing Chrom.

Chrom is basically an Ike MKII, in the same vein that Celice was a Marth MKII (or how Lucina is a Marth MKIII).

 

[Johnknight1]

You are not me. I am not you. We have our own opinions, to which are very different. Lets agree to disagree and stop "Arguing" as you put it.

It's not an opinion what DLC is; it is a fact, and the fact is you are wrong.

Now, if you still disagree with me, then please...

 

[Salty the SLUG]

It's not an opinion what DLC is; it is a fact, and the fact is you are wrong.

Now, if you still disagree with me, then please...

Please just put everything down. You don't need act this way. Now lets stop and get back to enjoying our time here on the Smash-Boards. Besides, non of us are "wrong". So please, let us agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Baskerville]

You aren't making things better by telling him to shut up John.

 

[greenluigiman2]

How about we switch up the topic. Anyone expecting Gamescom reveals? Seems like a good time for a newcomer.

 

[FlareHabanero]

They have similar strength and both have an attack animation that resembles Quick Draw. They both also wield a two-handed sword, and have a mercenary motif with their designs. Chrom also originally had the same color scheme as Ike did, so they were definitely thinking about Ike when designing Chrom.

Chrom is basically an Ike MKII, in the same vein that Celice was a Marth MKII (or how Lucina is a Marth MKIII).

Yet people will still waste their time stating that both Chrom and Lucina are completely original and then do nothing to back it up.

 

[ChronoBound]

Yet people will still waste their time stating that both Chrom and Lucina are completely original and then do nothing to back it up.

I particularly don't get where they say Chrom is not as muscular as FE9 Ike is. I would think the beach DLC pic of him would pretty much lay that to rest.

 

[Arcadenik]

IF Chrom and Lucina turn out to be the only Fire Emblem characters in Smash, I am going to laugh while I read butthurt posts.

 

[ChronoBound]

IF Chrom and Lucina turn out to be the only Fire Emblem characters in Smash, I am going to laugh while I read butthurt posts.

No way is Lucina replacing Marth. Marth is Mr. Fire Emblem, and had a new game release just three years ago. Lucina replacing Marth is the equivalent of Alpha replacing Olimar.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

John, I'm sorry that ever happened. Do you accept my apology?

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Oh hey, Fire Emblem arguments.

Apologies if this has already been said, but if these count as evolutions, does this mean we now have four-stage evolution lines (with Blaziken and Ampharos - who just put on a wig and is suddenly now a dragon )?

Not sure if those are actual evolutions or just enhanced forms. EDIT: I hear people saying that they only active during battle and then revert. So...enhanced forms?

But it'd be cool if the other starter Pokemon got Mega forms too. We could finally have Charcolt, Sapsaur, and Rainer, so to speak. And Grass/Dragon Sceptile and Serperior.

Yes, by virtue Super Smash Bros. needs more grass porn. I mean the lack of grass porn is disturbing.

I guess...
Xenoblade's grass was incredible by the Wii's graphical standards. Maybe they could do something similar with the SSB4 engine on the WiiU.

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[Big-Cat]

I don't know, Marth looks pretty feminine while Lucina has that man-jaw. It's close enough.

 

[Johnknight1]

You aren't making things better by telling him to shut up John.

That is because I want a sustained state of chaos and suffering.

That is the reason why I want Starman (from Pro Wrestling), Tails (Sonic), Plusle and Minun (Pokémon), Pichu, Dr. Mario, and Young Link (while keeping Toon Link), instead of these willy nilly Fire Emblem characters. To create chaos...

...and it will be a beautiful, destructive, and horrifyingly loving thing!

 

[Moon Monkey]

They have similar strength and both have an attack animation that resembles Quick Draw. They both also wield a two-handed sword, and have a mercenary motif with their designs. Chrom also originally had the same color scheme as Ike did, so they were definitely thinking about Ike when designing Chrom.

Chrom is basically an Ike MKII, in the same vein that Celice was a Marth MKII (or how Lucina is a Marth MKIII).

Do you think it is possible that Ike can be updated to his Path of Radiance look? The same way Samus was updated to her Other M style?
Sakurai and Co. would defiantly be able to play up Ike as the power house Fire Emblem fighter on the roster (And possibly give him the Urvan???).
Where as Chrom could fall some where in between the styles of Marth and Ike.

I can't but consider the fact that since there are some Soul Calibur guys working on on the game that they could lends so skill in spicing up and differentiating the sword fighting styles of the Fire Emblem fighter candidates.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Ampharos becoming a dragon makes sense, as it's name can mean electric dragon in Japanese

 

[FlareHabanero]

I don't know, Marth looks pretty feminine while Lucina has that man-jaw. It's close enough.

Marth is beautiful and Lucina is handsome.

INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS LOGIC.

 

[kackamee]

No character has ever replaced any other character in Smash, sans Sonic possibly replacing Mewtwo (and maybe Roy and possibly even Doc, too).

If we had DLC in Brawl, we could have had all of the Forbidden Seven, tons of Smash 64 and Melee stages, the Tabuu stage as playable in multiplayer, the various Subspace area stages as multiplayer stages, the Subspace Arena as a multiplayer stage, the Wi-fi Waiting room as a playable multiplayer stage, online SSE, online all of the stadium modes (or more than 2 players), actual fixes to the absolutely craptastic online,

Also, not all DLC is paid DLC.

Besides, it is not like anyone is forcing you to get DLC. If you don't want it, don't buy and/or download it. However, don't tell others they can't have it.

Of course I'd love DLC if it always went well, hypothetically. But more often than not, that's not the case.
I am assuming that DLC for Smash 4 will probably have to be paid for if it is included, and in that case, I would rather not have DLC and am happy with the philosophy Sakurai has on DLC.

 

[Baskerville]

Of course you do.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Oh hey, Fire Emblem arguments.



Not sure if those are actual evolutions or just enhanced forms. EDIT: I hear people saying that they only active during battle and then revert. So...enhanced forms?

But it'd be cool if the other starter Pokemon got Mega forms too. We could finally have Charcolt, Sapsaur, and Rainer, so to speak. And Grass/Dragon Sceptile and Serperior.


I guess...
Xenoblade's grass was incredible by the Wii's graphical standards. Maybe they could do something similar with the SSB4 engine on the WiiU.

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Ohai Rebel, how are you this fine evening?

 

[Johnknight1]

John, I'm sorry that ever happened. Do you accept my apology?

Just read the definition of DLC.

But no, I'm not mad; just performing at the theater in which I am the ruler of. THE THEATER OF CHAOS, DESTRUCTION, AND NIGHTMARES!!!!

(and no, this is not the character boards; that is much worse, especially with N3ON, Fal, and Venus being moderators there [congratz to them btw])

 

[ChronoBound]

Do you think it is possible that Ike can be updated to his Path of Radiance look? The same way Samus was updated to her Other M style?
Sakurai and Co. would defiantly be able to play up Ike as the power house Fire Emblem fighter on the roster (And possibly give him the Urvan???).
Where as Chrom could fall some where in between the styles of Marth and Ike.

The problem with that is while Ike looks discernibly older in his FE10 incarnation, his FE10 outfit is similar to Chrom's outfit (particularly the whole one whole bare arm thing)

Secondly, the whole "he can be middle of the road" is incredibly lame. We already have a few middle of the road swordsmen in Smash Bros, and will we probably get one of Isaac or Shulk whom also likely to be "middle of the road" swordsmen and also at least have unique abilities to go with themselves. Aesthetically and ability wise, Chrom is a very sterile addition.

 

[Johnknight1]

I am assuming that DLC for Smash 4 will probably have to be paid for if it is included, and in that case, I would rather not have DLC and am happy with the philosophy Sakurai has on DLC.

Having DLC post-release does nothing to hurt people who don't buy the game... NOTHING!!!!

So literally, if you don't want it, don't buy it.

Besides, $60 for video games isn't that much, especially with only like $20 of DLC tacked on. Heck, $60 now equals more or less $50 in 2005, and video games cost a heck of a lot more to make so... yeah.

(This is why I theorize big AAA quality games like GTA V, Smash Bros., 3D Mario games, Halo, God of War, Uncharted, MGS, etc. should be $70)

 

[Fastblade5035]

Yet people will still waste their time stating that both Chrom and Lucina are completely original and then do nothing to back it up.

Well, I DO need to waste approximately two days worth of time...

Though I heavily disagree with the "do nothing to back it up" part.
Don't ask me to back this up.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Chrom is pretty much going to be the last minute clone edition that will get dumped aside for the next batch of games due to being so lame. Can we get something else that is not lame?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Lissa is not lame, let's get her

 

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[KingofPhantoms]

Fire Emblem talk is still going on.

I have little knowledge of the series.

The discussions always turn into arguments.

And they never end well.

King of Phantoms is out, PEACE!

 

[Big-Cat]

Chrom is pretty much going to be the last minute clone edition that will get dumped aside for the next batch of games due to being so lame. Can we get something else that is not lame?

Tharja

 

[Johnknight1]

Chrom is pretty much going to be the last minute clone edition that will get dumped aside for the next batch of games due to being so lame. Can we get something else that is not lame?

Landmasters... Landmasters everywhere!!!!