Mario Universe Super Mario Galaxy 2

[Scott!]

I'm going to start with a little story for all those people who are saying that this is gonna be the same as SMG1. Once upon a time, there was a game called The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. It was the best thing ever. Better than sliced bread. And then, a few years later, its sequel, Majora's Mask came out. MM used the same engine and looked aesthetically very similar. Some people may (can't say for sure; I was too young) have expected it to be more of the same. But when they played it, they found that within the same technological constraints as the last game, an entirely new experience had been created. And it was also the best thing ever.

Moral: Just because 2 games use the same engine does not mean they will be the same, and does not mean they have the same story. Please, give the game a chance to prove itself.

Now, concerning the game itself, I do hope that Rosalina returns. She was awesome, and is the only character I use in MK:Wii, so she has to return. *crosses fingers*

Also, it was asked how far we got in SMG1. I got all 120 unaided by guides or internets. It did get tough by the end, with some of the daredevil runs, that rock boss in the ghost level without being hit, and the toyland purple coin levels standing out to me. I also got to about 30-40 with the man in green before moving on to the other Wii game I had at the time, Corruption.

 

[HylianBoy]

I'm going to start with a little story for all those people who are saying that this is gonna be the same as SMG1. Once upon a time, there was a game called The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. It was the best thing ever. Better than sliced bread. And then, a few years later, its sequel, Majora's Mask came out. MM used the same engine and looked aesthetically very similar. Some people may (can't say for sure; I was too young) have expected it to be more of the same. But when they played it, they found that within the same technological constraints as the last game, an entirely new experience had been created. And it was also the best thing ever.

Moral: Just because 2 games use the same engine does not mean they will be the same, and does not mean they have the same story. Please, give the game a chance to prove itself.

Now, concerning the game itself, I do hope that Rosalina returns. She was awesome, and is the only character I use in MK:Wii, so she has to return. *crosses fingers*

Also, it was asked how far we got in SMG1. I got all 120 unaided by guides or internets. It did get tough by the end, with some of the daredevil runs, that rock boss in the ghost level without being hit, and the toyland purple coin levels standing out to me. I also got to about 30-40 with the man in green before moving on to the other Wii game I had at the time, Corruption.

Well said. Not to mention OoT used an upgraded Super Mario 64 engine.

 

[Crazy_mofo213]

I didn't like Galaxy 1 that much so I wont even bother with this one, but it is really stupid that they're releasing basically the same thing, same console etc. instead of coming up with a genuine story like each previous 3d mario title. I mean, do they really think Galaxy is the new age "thing" for mario, like how the early platformers were the norm, and sequentially numbered? I don't really see it.

Just because SMG2 is using the same engine as before doesn't mean that the game will be the same. Call of Duty hasn't changed thier engine in God knows how long and the franchise is still going hard. They just add some new stuff and they're set. It's what Nintendo is doing with SMG2.

 

[Frown]

What's with people saying Sunshine was better than Galaxy? I thought the opposite was obvious.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Regardless of the similarity, I'm excited about the first 3D Mario game with Yoshi in it...

I'm a little curious how they are going to make the storyline though...

 

[Gates]

I'm a little curious how they are going to make the storyline though...

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Bowser is going to capture Peach and Mario is going to have to save her lol.

Watching at the trailer again, did anyone think the sound quality was a little bit lower than the original? Maybe it's just because I'm only seeing cam footage, but I really hope they stuck with fully orchestrated stuff instead of midis. The music in Mario Galaxy 1 was fantastic.

 

[Frown]

Regardless of the similarity, I'm excited about the first 3D Mario game with Yoshi in it...

Uh, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Yoshi was in Mario 64, and you could ride Yoshis in Mario Sunshine.

 

[Deception]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Bowser is going to capture Peach and Mario is going to have to save her lol.

Watching at the trailer again, did anyone think the sound quality was a little bit lower than the original? Maybe it's just because I'm only seeing cam footage, but I really hope they stuck with fully orchestrated stuff instead of midis. The music in Mario Galaxy 1 was fantastic.

They probably didn't finish the soundtrack yet, so we got this filler music.

 

[Gates]

Uh, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Yoshi was in Mario 64, and you could ride Yoshis in Mario Sunshine.

Mario 64 hardly counts since you didn't unlock him until the end, but Yoshi was definitely in Mario Sunshine.

They probably didn't finish the soundtrack yet, so we got this filler music.

Ah, that might be it.

Also, I was totally wrong, they are re-using levels from Mario Galaxy.
http://kotaku.com/5276440/miyamoto-super-mario-galaxy-2-will-have-90-new-levels
Only 90% new levels?! Unacceptable. Nintendo is so lazy omg.

 

[Frown]

Also, I was totally wrong, they are re-using levels from Mario Galaxy.
http://kotaku.com/5276440/miyamoto-super-mario-galaxy-2-will-have-90-new-levels
Only 90% new levels?! Unacceptable. Nintendo is so lazy omg.

90% new levels would just be ********. I think he meant that the gameplay was 90% new. Still, it's a very strange number.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Uh, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Yoshi was in Mario 64, and you could ride Yoshis in Mario Sunshine.

Well, I never played Sunshine so I didn't know Yoshi was in it, but his appearance in Super Mario 64 doesn't count...

 

[Lord Viper]

Also, I was totally wrong, they are re-using levels from Mario Galaxy.
http://kotaku.com/5276440/miyamoto-super-mario-galaxy-2-will-have-90-new-levels
Only 90% new levels?! Unacceptable. Nintendo is so lazy omg.

☆ Having Buoy Base again would be so worth it if they include it again. That stage has the best sound track ever and if they add more stars, that would be great to. ☆

 

[Bowser King]

90% new levels would just be ********. I think he meant that the gameplay was 90% new. Still, it's a very strange number.

I think he said 90% and then thought that wasn't accurate so he changed it to 95% (on kotaku it says he also said 99%).

-Bowser King

 

[Deception]

90% new content sounds nice. They could bring back some of the best stages and give them new objectives or add some new things to them.

 

[Grunt]

Okay, can people stop saying that this game is going to be "the same" just because the engine is the same?

That's all I meant by it.

 

[XACE-K]

90% new content sounds nice. They could bring back some of the best stages and give them new objectives or add some new things to them.

That's exactly what they're doing. I read it somewhere in an Kotaku article. I just need to find it.

Edit: "Miyamoto said that the original plan was to "essentially create new variations of the worlds in Super Mario Galaxy." But, over time, the developers have had so many ideas that Miyamoto estimates that 90% of the game's levels are all new. The rest, he said, are levels from the original Mario Galaxy with different objectives."

Taken from http://kotaku.com/5276440/

 

[Mic_128]

Well, I never played Sunshine so I didn't know Yoshi was in it, but his appearance in Super Mario 64 doesn't count...

Yoshi was also a character in SM64 DS

 

[Scott!]

I wonder what exactly they mean by using old levels again. Like, would we return to the same areas of, say, Space Junk? Or would there be new areas that are too similar to the old level for it to be a new area, so they just reuse the old one's theme?

 

[Amide]

I can honestly say that New Super Mario Bros Wii didn't excite me nearly as much as Galaxy 2 did. Even if it is essentially the same game with different levels, I probably wouldn't care. I'm so excited or this new game. I just hope that A) It still has epic music, B) It's harder.

 

[Gates]

Yoshi was also a character in SM64 DS

That's a legit appearance, but being able to ride him after you've collected 120 stars in the original N64 version doesn't really count since you didn't unlock him until beating the game completely.

 

[XACE-K]

I wonder what exactly they mean by using old levels again. Like, would we return to the same areas of, say, Space Junk? Or would there be new areas that are too similar to the old level for it to be a new area, so they just reuse the old one's theme?

The 10% of levels appearing in SMG2 also appeared in SMG. The only differences between them are the objectives you have to complete and graphical improvements probably.

 

[zrky]

I wonder what exactly they mean by using old levels again. Like, would we return to the same areas of, say, Space Junk? Or would there be new areas that are too similar to the old level for it to be a new area, so they just reuse the old one's theme?

Please no, I hated Space Junk, and Battle Rock. Now because i said that those will be the ones that are the same -___-

 

[Deception]

Please no, I hated Space Junk, and Battle Rock. Now because i said that those will be the ones that are the same -___-

Weird, I liked those two galaxies, especially Battle Rock. Wouldn't mind seeing them again.

 

[VaneWalker]

I liked all those mini game galaxies. The rolling ball and manta ray surfing and those galaxies with specific themes like slingshotting across the stars. I want to see more of that.

 

[VaneWalker]

Regardless of the similarity, I'm excited about the first 3D Mario game with Yoshi in it...

I'm a little curious how they are going to make the storyline though...

The Mushroom Kingdom has discoverd ways for faster than light travel. The Starship Portabello needs a captain and crew. Mario, Luigi and several toads set off on the ship to explore the galaxy. But bowser and his minions have stowed away in the ship and in the midst of it all they take over the ship and kick out the Kingdoms explorers. Bowser having power once again flies off to the far reaches of space where the remains of his previous starship armarda lie at. But it was not as he left off. The alien race of the shrooms have taken the armada and after a near death experiance the Koopas retreat to find the Plumbers and Toads. Once they are retrieved they come back into contact with Rosalina who was assaulted and kidnapped by the shrooms. As trouble is stired up on the ship over the command-Mario or Bowser-They fail to take action and watch as the Mushroom Kingdom is taken over by the shrooms. Now, coming together the two factions lead an all out assault on the shrooms. But they don't have enough power and about to lose when in the nick of time a future Starship comes to the past to help the heroes. After defeating the shrooms Mario meets Future Wario and Waluigi wounded and about to die. The two have dialog about life and morals. While all who served in the assault are awarded. Bowser even gets a position in the Mushroom council. But future Wario and Waluigi warn of the upcoming war between The Kingdom and Bowser that will result in the greatest tragety the world will face. Mario and Bowser learn of this, looks and look at eachother and face a delima, take care of him now or see if he will change. War breaks out over Bowsers desire for more power in the Mushroom council. This leads to Super Mario Galaxy 3: War and Ends.

 

[GreenKirby]

Regardless of the similarity, I'm excited about the first 3D Mario game with Yoshi in it...

coughSUNSHINEcoughSM64DScough

 

[Spin-Dash]

@ VaneWalker

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maybe

 

[Pr0phetic]

coughSUNSHINEcoughSM64DScough

well I guess he meant on the Wii lol, and he probably didn't have SMS

 

[M.K]

I really enjoyed Space Junk, I liked the music as well.
The water levels....meh, I didn't really enjoy that the Star Spin was basically a Jet Ski xD.
I was excited for the Toy Level, until I realize how much it sucked >_> I mean, it wasn't bad by any means, but it was SO tedious.

 

[Scott!]

All this talk of SMG2 made me start a new file in SMG1 tonight. Forgot how fun the gravity was. This should be awesome, even if they do reuse old levels a bit. As long as Rosalina's around, I'm good.

 

[Lord Viper]

All this talk of SMG2 made me start a new file in SMG1 tonight.

☆ I'm feeling the same way. I also feel this way on New Super Mario Bros Wii. I'm not going to be bored this week. XD ☆

 

[Ochobobo]

Whether Teran really meant to troll or not, he got some pretty funny reactions.

 

[oceanic--ice]

i've really enjoyed SMG despite having mostly similar controls with 64 lacking a new element like FLUDD... the gravitational concept as well as the powerups and stuff were gr8 and i'm satisfied with a sequel but i would have prefered a LM2 Instead.... the wii controls would fit nicely with the poltergeist3000 and i dont see why theyre ruining the 1xMario3D/Console tradition instead of continuing a would-be 1xLuigi3D/Console.... well i guess i should be happy they even announced a good-looking first party at all...

E309 still was way better than E308 though......just not perfect

 

[toon_marth]

What new gameplay mechanic can this possibly offer us? Seriously Mario Galaxy 2? What's the point? And since when has Nintendo ever called a sequel "2"? Besides Mario Party.

 

[1UPChris]

What new gameplay mechanic can this possibly offer us? Seriously Mario Galaxy 2? What's the point? And since when has Nintendo ever called a sequel "2"? Besides Mario Party.

Well, like we all saw in the trailer, it's going to include Yoshi. Other than newer levels, I don't think there's going to be much added to SMG2. I was hoping for some new suits as well.

Hopefully Nintendo will make the SMG2 soundtrack even more epic than the original SMG one. Man was that sexy.

 

[Circus]

What new gameplay mechanic can this possibly offer us? Seriously Mario Galaxy 2? What's the point? And since when has Nintendo ever called a sequel "2"? Besides Mario Party.

You're right. No video game should ever be made unless it's going to change my life. If it doesn't have revolutionary gameplay mechanics, I consider it insulting that a gaming company would even think about trying to sell it to me. The next Super Mario game better include time travel. Actual time travel.

And yeah, I hate when companies title sequels to games by taking the original title and adding a 2 to it. It's so...logical.

 

[toon_marth]

Well, like we all saw in the trailer, it's going to include Yoshi. Other than newer levels, I don't think there's going to be much added to SMG2. I was hoping for some new suits as well.

Hopefully Nintendo will make the SMG2 soundtrack even more epic than the original SMG one. Man was that sexy.

yeah I saw Yoshi. I think I'm going to end just playing Mario Sunshine. It's my favorite Mario platformer.

EDIT@Circus: Are you MOCKING me?

 

[Circus]

EDIT@Circus: Are you MOCKING me?

No, I just want TIME TRAVEL, DAMMIT.

 

[Dy17]

Mario has alway been a sucky game to me. The only Mario game i liked was Donkey Kong. Is Nintendo gonna sh-it Mario games out every year like capcom ****s out megaman games?

 

[The Dinkoman]

Mario has alway been a sucky game to me.

Let me guess, you play the Xbox 360 a lot?

Anyway, Yoshi is ftw. I hope you can still play as Luigi after you beat the game.