Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[XenoWarriorX]

Ahh that sucks, it probably means nothing then

Like i said, it's probably a bot. Don't get your hopes up.

 

[SirCamp]

I think the problem with people's confidence in Isaac at the moment is that the tweet hint just polarized people. If you were already a fan of Golden Sun the tweet seems like an obvious hint. But if you aren't, the reaction to the picture likely just looks like a huge reach by a desperate fanbase. And given that Isaac is from an older currently defunct franchise people are going to write him off. But, I think if you are one of those who is super optimistic, it can be easy to be affected by people being pessimistic after you've come down from the high of seeing the hint. And so here we are.

For the record though I do actually feel like he will be in this time. I'd personally put his chances at 65%. I don't wanna go super high, but Isaac has a lot going for him with the hint and the fact that the ballot appears so influential. It feels like his time and I just have a gut feeling.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

I think the problem with people's confidence in Isaac at the moment is that the tweet hint just polarized people. If you were already a fan of Golden Sun the tweet seems like an obvious hint. But if you aren't, the picture likely just looks like a huge reach by a desperate fanbase. And given that Isaac is from an older, currently defunct franchise people are going to write him off. But I think if you are one of those who is super optimistic it can be easy to be affect by people being pessimistic, after you've come down from the high of seeing the hint. And so here we are.

Basically me rn.

 

[Retroend]

has sakurai ever given hints towards new characters at all?

 

[Mav485]

Yep, but since believe is just a choice, I choose to believe in this leak


also I found this leak with Isaac
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/427821167
I think its fake, but that's is a good fake leak to laugh a bit.

I tend to doubt most leaks, including this one, out of hand, but I like this one solely because it gives some exact details about something like Final Smashes. It gives us a way to test validity later. Plus, if nothing else, the Alolan Trainer idea is cool.

 

[Eagle]

I think the problem with people's confidence in Isaac at the moment is that the tweet hint just polarized people. If you were already a fan of Golden Sun the tweet seems like an obvious hint. But if you aren't, the picture likely just looks like a huge reach by a desperate fanbase. And given that Isaac is from an older, currently defunct franchise people are going to write him off. But I think if you are one of those who is super optimistic it can be easy to be affect by people being pessimistic, after you've come down from the high of seeing the hint. And so here we are.

For the record though I do actually feel like he may well be in this time. I'd personally put his chances at 65%. I don't wanna go super high, but Isaac has a lot going for him with the hint and the fact that the ballot appears so influential. It feels like his time and I just have a gut feeling.

I'm a big fan of Isaac and have been on his support thread since Brawl but I really do think the that the tweet as a GS reference is reaching. The angle does look oddly specific but it was really the only angle available to get three characters standing behind one another to look as if they were lined up. It's not as bad as the cushions/chairs bit though.

In saying that, it makes me happy how many people have come to support Isaac in this thread now. It's really crazy. I just hate that now, moreso than either Brawl or Sm4sh, there is a chance that many, many of us are going to be sorely disappointed.

 

[BillyBat]

I don't know if anyone had mentioned this but I was just browsing Golden Sun stuff and had no idea of Isaac's international names. It'll be weird to have two Robins.
Isaac (EN)
Hans (ES)
Vlad (FR)
Robin (JP)

 

[KMDP]

He just seems highly unlikely to most people is all. I don’t think they hate him.

If Isaac ends up getting in, it'll be hilarious to me.

When the Smash fanbase thinks a fan-wanted character is a shoo-in, they don't get in (Wolf, Ridley, K. Rool)
When the Smash fanbase think the character won't get in, they tend to.

 

[Eagle]

I don't know if anyone had mentioned this but I was just browsing Golden Sun stuff and had no idea of Isaac's international names. It'll be weird to have two Robins.
Isaac (EN)
Hans (ES)
Vlad (FR)
Robin (JP)

Well we have two Roys, but yeah two Robins on the CSS would be a bit weird. Oh well, that's Japan's problem!

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

has sakurai ever given hints towards new characters at all?

He posted a random picture of Palutena's statue 5 months before her announcement and he mentioned the final presentation as climax before we got Bayonetta. People are iffy whether the red eyes tweet was a hint toward K.Rool's eyes and the Bloody Tears Castlevania song or not

 

[KMDP]

Well we have two Roys, but yeah two Robins on the CSS would be a bit weird. Oh well, that's Japan's problem!

There is no problem, in this case.

EN - JP
Isaac - Robin
Robin - Reflet​

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Well we have two Roys, but yeah two Robins on the CSS would be a bit weird. Oh well, that's Japan's problem!

Two roys?

There is no problem, in this case.

EN - JP
Isaac - Robin
Robin - Reflet​

Reflet sounds like a pokemon name.

"REFLET! I CHOOSE you!"

 

[KMDP]

Two roys?


Reflet sounds like a pokemon name.

"REFLET! I CHOOSE you!"

and
Two Roys.

 

[BillyBat]

There is no problem, in this case.

EN - JP
Isaac - Robin
Robin - Reflet​

Guess I should have looked up Robin's Japanese. name.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

and
Two Roys.

Oh. I forget that roy.

About all the time.

 

[TiaSilvia]

He posted a random picture of Palutena's statue 5 months before her announcement and he mentioned the final presentation as climax before we got Bayonetta. People are iffy whether the red eyes tweet was a hint toward K.Rool's eyes and the Bloody Tears Castlevania song or not

The first direct also had the fake palutena trophy, which was clearly a hint to palutena's inclusion.

 

[alguidrag]

I checked Custom Robo Arena's UK website, and it is now gone.

However, Dark Dawn and Mario Kart DS were updated in the past 3 days.

Look up "Mario Kart DS UK Website." same thing.

Mario Kart got updated? WALUIGI CONFIRMED(just kidding)

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

Oh I forgot another hint. He took a photo of the Monado at a concert or something in 2013

 

[NoOtherPersona]

i'd say it's just best to keep the hope if we don't it'll just be sad this will be our chance

 

[SonicLink125]

I think the pessimism is coming from those who used to bring down all the Ridley, K. Rool, etc. fans. Now that those guys are in Smash, they have a need to go to the next big thing. Which is us! "So, this is what it feels like to be one of the big leagues?" lol

 

[XenoWarriorX]

The first direct also had the fake palutena trophy, which was clearly a hint to palutena's inclusion.

Oh yeah. That freaky Palutena...

That was when Nintendo did those trophy quizzes too. Man, Nintendo has changed.

 

[DogManStar]

i'd say it's just best to keep the hope if we don't it'll just be sad this will be our chance

I've had no hope for the past three years, but I keep supporting anyways. It might finally pay off though. We might really make it this time.

 

[SirCamp]

Apparently the E3 direct had a rope ladder and barrels in it. So they seem to be doing it now as well.

 

[SonicLink125]

Oh I forgot another hint. He took a photo of the Monado at a concert or something in 2013

Another big hint: Dark Pit showed up at the end of Palutena's trailer. At that time, we didn't know what his role would be.

 

[Isaac: Venus Adept]

The people who say he hasn't been hinting haven't been paying attention. Some are obvious and some are really hard to decipher

 

[Eagle]

I think he has been hinting, especially with the "red eyes", it's just people take it too far with the color of furniture and stuff.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Don't get cocky yet, guys.

Last time, we got burned real hard.

So we should remain hopeful, yet cautious.

That applies to me too...

 

[BillyBat]

On a side note, after the hype for Isaac, I finally returned to my GBA and defeated all the Secret Bosses in TLA.

 

[DogManStar]

Don't get cocky yet, guys.

Last time, we got burned real hard.

So we should remain hopeful, yet cautious.

That applies to me too...

Up until now, I had been incredibly pessimistic. I will never get cocky about Isaac's chances until he is literally confirmed, personally. Infact had you asked me a month ago, I would have put his chances at under 10%. Things are starting to look up, though.

 

[candyissweet]

I think the pessimism is coming from those who used to bring down all the Ridley, K. Rool, etc. fans. Now that those guys are in Smash, they have a need to go to the next big thing. Which is us! "So, this is what it feels like to be one of the big leagues?" lol

We should feel proud of ourselves at this point tbh, people are jealous that we're getting so much attention haha

 

[Yoshi444]

I don't know if anyone had mentioned this but I was just browsing Golden Sun stuff and had no idea of Isaac's international names. It'll be weird to have two Robins.
Isaac (EN)
Hans (ES)
Vlad (FR)
Robin (JP)

Did you see my tweet? I am "Yoshi #IsaacForSmash" Trying to push Isaac on Twitter LOL

 

[Calane]

Dark Dawn is like the original.

Just worse is all.

Most people would probably be better playing the original.

Dark Dawn is actually my favorite GS game, and I played all three.

I can understand someone not liking it as much as the originals, but I can't help but feel people are a bit unfair towards it. It may not be the most difficult, and it does have "points of no return", but there's so many great things about the game that I feel people just flat-out ignore.

I always feel sort of alienated from this fanbase due to how people treat Dark Dawn like trash compared to the originals. I actually started with DD and went backwards, and I honestly think that the three games are all rather similar in quality.

This is just my opinion, and I know that most wouldn't agree with it.

 

[Lonodel]

Yep, but since believe is just a choice, I choose to believe in this leak


also I found this leak with Isaac
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/427821167
I think its fake, but that's is a good fake leak to laugh a bit.

That comment at the end had me bursting

 

[alguidrag]

On a side note, after the hype for Isaac, I finally returned to my GBA and defeated all the Secret Bosses in TLA.

Even Dulahan? Good job man

 

[Lonodel]

Dark Dawn is actually my favorite GS game, and I played all three.

I can understand someone not liking it as much as the originals, but I can't help but feel people are a bit unfair towards it. It may not be the most difficult, and it does have "points of no return", but there's so many great things about the game that I feel people just flat-out ignore.

I always feel sort of alienated from this fanbase due to how people treat Dark Dawn like trash compared to the originals. I actually started with DD and went backwards, and I honestly think that the three games are all rather similar in quality.

This is just my opinion, and I know that most wouldn't agree with it.

My only issue with dark dawn were the point of no returns, I thought everything else was pretty alright, the first golden sun had a rather campy story and the second really improved on that, I don't see why that can't happen with DD, that being said I hope Matthews the MC of the new one not felix's kid or some crap xD

 

[alguidrag]

My only issue with dark dawn were the point of no returns, I thought everything else was pretty alright, the first golden sun had a rather campy story and the second really improved on that, I don't see why that can't happen with DD, that being said I hope Matthews the MC of the new one not felix's kid or some crap xD

Yep I hated the point of no return of DD, if he didn't had this I would have loved the game



also I want the next Golden Sun have a female physical jupiter adept lead that in the end of game we discover that she is child of Felix and Sheba(my first Golden Sun ship)

 

[Tetiro]

My only issue with dark dawn were the point of no returns, I thought everything else was pretty alright, the first golden sun had a rather campy story and the second really improved on that, I don't see why that can't happen with DD, that being said I hope Matthews the MC of the new one not felix's kid or some crap xD

Eugh yeh that was the worst. I think I stopped playing because of that. I think now I have grown up a little I could return to that and try again

 

[Saer2k]

From what I read somewhere, that originally Takahasi brothers wanted the first 2 games in the series to be a prologue to a trilogy.
Dark Dawn was supposedly the first part in the trilogy, so that's why it kinda felt less material than the the first Golden Sun game.
They would make two games afterward continuing where Dark Dawn left off.

 

[iam8bit]

I think the problem with people's confidence in Isaac at the moment is that the tweet hint just polarized people. If you were already a fan of Golden Sun the tweet seems like an obvious hint. But if you aren't, the reaction to the picture likely just looks like a huge reach by a desperate fanbase. And given that Isaac is from an older currently defunct franchise people are going to write him off.

Or maybeee... Isaac's chances are looking so good right now, that people who used to not even consider him are now fearful that he will actually be in the game and "take the place" of other characters that they want, so they project their insecurity by putting us Isaac fans down and trying to look at things like Sakurai's tweet from a supposedly "objective" perspective that is actually a pessimistic and negative one, result of their cognitive dissonance.

... I mean, could be.

 

[XenoWarriorX]

Let's just hope Camelot even have the resources or the okay from Nintendo...

Or maybeee... Isaac's chances are looking so good right now, that people who used to not even consider him are now fearful that he will actually be in the game and "take the place" of other characters that they want, so they project their insecurity by putting us Isaac fans down and trying to look at things like Sakurai's tweet from a supposedly "objective" perspective that is actually a pessimistic and negative one, result of their cognitive dissonance.

... I mean, could be.

A conclusion like that doesn't really take that much research or thought.

An assumption with no basis in fact, an opinionated observation.