Starcraft TWO thread

[JTB]

Oohh, I wasn't aware that you could skip a level and go to a higher one.

 

[Kira-]

I am getting ***** on one base as Zerg but I haven't been able to FE on 15/16 and properly defend =/ Need more practice

 

[Nashun]

Skimp on drones and FE earlier. Less economical but much safer. Pool before expo also pretty much guarantees it.

 

[JTB]

i wish nashun would give me advice

instead he just watches veronica mars

 

[Nashun]

Mass muta, don't clump! Speedlings/Queen/Drone as mineral dump.

Also macro.

 

[Adam M!]

NATHAN YOU WATCH VERONICA MARS?

hit me up!

 

[JTB]

how am i suppose to be dealing with 4+ gate as zerg

i feel like i have enough roaches to fend it off, then i just get ***** by stalkers while im getting my hydras out

most of the time when i drop my changling in their base, they kill it before i can even see how many units they have

also, im too nervous to expand because i dont know where they have observers at, plus my natural just gets ***** once they decide to come in

 

[NyTeStRiDeR]

how am i suppose to be dealing with 4+ gate as zerg

i feel like i have enough roaches to fend it off, then i just get ***** by stalkers while im getting my hydras out

most of the time when i drop my changling in their base, they kill it before i can even see how many units they have

also, im too nervous to expand because i dont know where they have observers at, plus my natural just gets ***** once they decide to come in

Early in the game, when u first scout them going 4gate by moving ur ovie there, ur plan should be pretty much to get to tier 2. leave a ling outside their base so u know once they move out, thats when u know when to start pumping army units and also put 2-4 spine crawlers in ur natural.

-if its a normal timed 4gate, you can have a general expectation of the size of the army just from the time that has passed already
-its more about the composition of units he has made that matters, as it helps with what units u need to make
-knowing when to drone and when to make army units is important, as droning too hard leads to not being able to defend the push, as making too many army slows down ur econ
-this is assuming u are fast expoing
-u should be able to get some hydras out b4 the 4gate push gets to ur base

 

[JTB]

whens the best time to expand? should i wait until i have a large enough mineral:gas ratio that making a hatch won't cause me to fall behind in hydras, or should it be earlier?

 

[NyTeStRiDeR]

against protoss, zerg can pretty much fast expo on any map. just have to worry about 2gate pressure on short distances.

-fast expoing usually means making a hatch b4 u have to make a 2nd ovie. it just depends on how greedy u are making it late.
-14 pool 15hatch is pretty standard

 

[pockyD]

i hear sc2 is with mlg now?!

 

[Deleted member]

got da game a few days ago

add me

richard akuna

triggerboy68@yahoo.com

CaptainBJ

 

[The Greater Leon]

got da game a few days ago

add me

richard akuna

triggerboy68@yahoo.com

CaptainBJ

johnny please tell me what this means

 

[Deleted member]

wow loophole for cheaper price

 

[The Greater Leon]

rofl how did you end up with kilo's name

was it''

OSCAR>??

 

[Signia]

Just picked up Starcraft 2. Soon as I got home my xbox RRoD'd. I think it's a sign...

For now I've been cruising through the campaign on normal mode trying to get familiar with the new units and practice micro/macro. I'm not sure what 2gate or 4gate means but I assume it's an special order of building your base. Sounds like "build two warpgates," but then I read 14pool x.x

I hope the standard of skill on Battle.net isn't too high, else it's gonna be as discouraging as playing SC1.

Username: Signia

 

[JTB]

yeah, # gate just means the number of buildings

14 pool just means building a spawning pool at 14 supply

 

[Scar]

i'm in

add me on facebook and it's done

 

[Nashun]

add me on facebook! nathanperez@csupomona.edu

 

[JTB]

ive been trying to be more creative with playing zerg so i might post random **** here from time to time

first idea

this may take a while to ramp up, but how well would using the overlords load + banelings work against terran as a static defense? i haven't tried it in a real game yet, but i would assume placing several overlords full of banelings at the ramp would work really well, especially against bioball. then if you wanted to be really daring, you could get the speed boost and just rush banelings in at their workers, missles shouldn't be able to take down an overlord fast enough.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

marines take down overloads like nobody's business

it'd be too inefficient since chances are you'll probably lose a overlord or two full of banelings

would work against someone too eager to attack though if he sees that there are only 5 overlords guarding the ramp

a better player would get suspicious though and probably wouldn't attack you head-on

 

[Squidster]

Nah man overlords with banelings are AMAZING vs marines. Obviously you need ground support like lings or roaches but once overlords start dropping banelings marines melt.

Very few terrans can effectively split their marines vs banelings, and even fewer vs overlord carpet bombers.

Check out this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbaUZiiZ86A

Cool is amazing btw.

 

[pockyD]

i don't know if that'd be any significantly better than getting burrow (which is tier 1 and costs less than ol drop iirc?)

 

[Deleted member]

ive been trying to be more creative with playing zerg so i might post random **** here from time to time

first idea

this may take a while to ramp up, but how well would using the overlords load + banelings work against terran as a static defense? i haven't tried it in a real game yet, but i would assume placing several overlords full of banelings at the ramp would work really well, especially against bioball. then if you wanted to be really daring, you could get the speed boost and just rush banelings in at their workers, missles shouldn't be able to take down an overlord fast enough.

literally everything works until you get to very high diamond

 

[JTB]

well for burrow, terrans always scan the ramp before running up, so they will probably get taken out. atleast with load, you don't see anything except a mass of overlords

a better player would get suspicious though and probably wouldn't attack you head-on

isn't that the point of having defense?

 

[pockyD]

bleh, just use lurkers instead

awwwwwwwww

 

[Lovage]

literally everything works until you get to very high diamond

yep




low/mid diamond = D- on iccup so go nuts

 

[sidefx]

Nah man overlords with banelings are AMAZING vs marines. Obviously you need ground support like lings or roaches but once overlords start dropping banelings marines melt.

Very few terrans can effectively split their marines vs banelings, and even fewer vs overlord carpet bombers.

Check out this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbaUZiiZ86A

Cool is amazing btw.

what a great match

 

[Scar]

ya that's what i've heard

 

[Kira-]

im slowly getting through the iem vods and so far i thought demuslim vs dimaga was awesome. i love the tvz dynamic and day9 and even the german commentator wasn't bad.

Spoiler

the last game made me laugh so hard after dimaga's banelings ***** all of demuslim's army lol

advice

you have a great name

 

[The Greater Leon]

link to the vods plz

 

[Kira-]

MASSIVE SPOILERS exist in this thread (and they are unavoidable), but it was the simplest compilation of all the bracket matches. Plus I just want to learn from it so I didn't care.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147294

 

[Lovage]

a better thread to link is

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948&currentpage=6

near the bottom

 

[Kira-]

LOL yea that woulda been way better.

this idra vs sarens server lag stuff is awful

 

[NyTeStRiDeR]

boo bnet2.0!!!! wheres my chat channels at???????

 

[Lovage]

yeah i just watched idra vs. sarens and that upset me a lot.

step it up blizzard

 

[JTB]

boo bnet2.0!!!! wheres my chat channels at???????

back in 1.0

 

[The Greater Leon]

do you guys hate IdrA?

i do. what a d-bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JTB]

he rages too much

but i still like watching his games

 

[Deleted member]

i like douchely players, most of them are pretty good too

firebathero is tight back in the day even though he sux now

idras very very good and his nerd rage is funny sometimes, i think most of it is an act though