SSBB is NOT on the MLG 09 Circuit

[Niko_K]

Looks like the $7500 online tournament is all we will be getting from MLG.

http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/264309/MLG-Announces-2009-Pro-Circuit-Details

 

[MegaMan087]

First EVO and now this... blech.

 

[Lord Viper]

First EVO and now this... blech.

☆ EVO completely don't have Smash, MLG is not all bad but it is bad. I don't get why they have Halo but not Brawl. =/ ☆

 

[Niko_K]

Microsoft owns MLG.

 

[FireKirby7]

I think Halo is more popular.....
Anyway, does MLG still support Brawl? Sorry for obvious question... I'm not a tourney person.

 

[Lord Viper]

Microsoft owns MLG.

☆ Oh, well that explains it better. ☆

 

[The_Prince]

aarrrrrggaaaahhhhhhhhharrrrrrrgggaaaablech. Thats not fun.

 

[tubes]

Also Halo has a larger fanbase. and Brawl is boring as hell to watch. I honestly wonder if Melee would still be in the MLG circuit if Brawl was never released. Same with EVO. Because other then Brawl being boring to watch doesn't smash have one of the best competitive scene's out there?

 

[SothE700k]

Microsoft owns MLG.

We have just received our answer to why.
I hate Microsoft now...

 

[AquaTech]

To be honest I'm surprised MLG exists at all. We should be happy we get that one tournament. Although it does seem odd they would go through the trouble of purchasing this site, then ignore us.

 

[Niko_K]

It's so they can advertise all their games and persuade those who don't like brawl to try their games in their competitive league known as MLG.

Notice all the new ads lately?

It's all about marketing.

 

[Hidden MachineS]

It's cause the gaming world is mostly corrupted by stupid ideas and people complaining about nothing. MLG probably doesn't think brawl has enough GUNZ to be considered, yet they fill smashboards with their useless advertising for 12 year olds.

They have FIFA 09 in they're MLG lineup for god's sake. Brawl is boring to watch? Yeah, that's why 100+ people were watching the top matches at COT4. Oh but let's watch Halo or Gears and pretend those aren't campfests.

 

[JacobWins]

This has got to be the biggest facepalm inducing knowledge to have ever entered my mind.

 

[SaltyKracka]

This has got to be the biggest facepalm inducing knowledge to have ever entered my mind.

I hear you there.

 

[Problem2]

Yeah, that's kind of dumb. I'm actually more sad about Evo dropping Brawl. Was Brawl being put in Evo just "play the new game" syndrome?

Edit: TvC is on evo's list? That game doesn't even have an official release in America. Now I'm even more sad that Brawl didn't make it.

 

[M15t3R E]

MLG made a huge mistake. They will see.

 

[Shy Guy 86]

Thats a dumb idea, why buy a Super Smash website and not include it in, and there are no doubt a lot of brawl fans around there, so of course it would have a good amount of people going and watching.

 

[4Serial]

Microsoft owns MLG.

that's it- i'm getting a mac.

 

[Sosuke]

that's it- i'm getting a mac.

I feel bad for you.

"Microsoft is lame" yada yada yada
/rant

 

[Lord Viper]

Edit: TvC is on evo's list? That game doesn't even have an official release in America. Now I'm even more sad that Brawl didn't make it.

☆ I don't even think there's a Nintendo game on the EVO's list. ☆

 

[Niko_K]

Just upgrade to Linux.

 

[Clone Z]

Even if it's Brawl, they're really missing out on an opportunity.

 

[Problem2]

☆ I don't even think there's a Nintendo game on the EVO's list. ☆

http://evo2k.com/?p=33

It's invitation only for TvC too, which is even stranger. So somehow, you have to prove that your good even though it isn't officially released in America and then win. It's possible, but it far caters to underground players.

 

[Fletch]

Am I the only one that's happy about this?

 

[Problem2]

I don't understand any real upsides to not having a popular tournament organizer hosting a tournament for your game. It generates more interest for people when they hear news like that. I also have friends who's criteria for games is heavily waited on how big the tournament scene is.

I take it back. I can think of one. If they don't set rules similar to what the majority of competitive smash players play, it causes a conflict (see last year's evo).

 

[CR4SH]

Oh but let's watch Halo or Gears and pretend those aren't campfests.

You're absolutely right about that.

Halo3 : Halo 2 :: Brawl : Melee

SOOO much slower and campier.

 

[Clone Z]

Aparantly they believe making slower and campier games makes them sell more.

Wait a minute...

 

[Niko_K]

Halo3 : Halo 2 :: Brawl : Melee

It all makes sense now.



<------$$$$Camp-------Skill---->

 

[Sosuke]

Vista : XP

Just sayin.

 

[Problem2]

Good thing we have Genesis. That thing is going to be big.

 

[M15t3R E]

Am I the only one that's happy about this?

Even if you love Melee and hate Brawl, why be happy about this? It's not like Brawl not being on MLG's list is going to help Melee. At least if Brawl was there, smash as a whole could garner even more attention.

 

[Fletch]

Even if you love Melee and hate Brawl, why be happy about this? It's not like Brawl not being on MLG's list is going to help Melee. At least if Brawl was there, smash as a whole could garner even more attention.

Because Brawl ruins the reputation that Melee always fought off as a simple, kiddy game. Melee took forever to be recognized as a deep fighter, and then they are going to throw a game in that forces your character to trip at random times and moves at a snail's pace.

 

[Sosuke]

What does Brawl have to do with Melee?
o_O

 

[DrGonzoPhD]

MLG's always been pretty worthless

 

[Lord Viper]

What does Brawl have to do with Melee?
o_O

☆ Better question, what does Melee have to do with MLG 09? ☆

 

[Problem2]

^^^ *

That's pretty true that Brawl has a less serious feel to it. And that statement isn't in any way meant to be an excuse for Brawl. The change was pretty darn intentional by Sakurai and his team. The fact doesn't change though that Smash as a whole is more likely to be forgotten by potential new players if no sort of smash scene has room to grow.

*Edit: Melee was a part of MLG for a few years until Brawl was close to release and MLG decided to drop Smash for more shooters. Luckily that year was the same year that Evo picked up Melee. The Melee tournament turned out really well. The Evo staff loved the Smash community and admired the number of attendees.

...then Brawl came out.

I don't know what really sparked Evo to be so certain of their rule sets, but they decided that items randomly spawning were good for competitive play. They claimed that it didn't drastically affect the outcome of the battle, which could be arguable if they didn't leave items such as the Smash Ball on. They said that having the smash ball was entertaining and the randomness was just as acceptable as parrying in Street Fighter. (which by the way is not produced by any sort of number generator. It's just that players happen to accidentally parry, but it's still in the control of the player) Finally, they said that they were against changes the rules from default. Well, the problem is default is 4 player ffa, all stages allowed with items.

The Smash Back Room tried to negotiate with Evo about having items and then when that failed, about what items should be on, but the organizers hardly listened at all. The Staff there claimed that they would hear anyone's case if it was well supported, but they seemed to notice their own members' opinions much more than the opinions of those who were actually going to play the game.

From what I can tell, there wasn't as big of a turn out of players as there was for Melee. At the very least, the number of pros was very low.

 

[Niko_K]

Best question. Why do we continue to have Brawl vs Melee debates the second melee gets added into the brawl circuit.

Unity please.

 

[pure_awesome]

Clear up a couple misconceptions:

1. The competitive scene for Brawl is far bigger than the competitive scene for Melee ever was.

2. Other fighting communities, on average, prefer Brawl over Melee.


But yeah. This sucks, but it's not like we've never survived without MLG before.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

wow, this news makes me so happy

 

[DrGonzoPhD]

Pro gaming in general seems to be a bit lost at the moment. MLG's the largest "pro gaming" organization out there right now, and they don't properly represent many competitive games. Their support for games like TF2 and CS 1.6/Source (both games with huge competitive scenes) is absymal, and it's obvious they've ditched a game like Smash Bros. (either Melee or Brawl) in favor of vastly inferior, yet much more popular games, like Halo 3. Halo 3 is not a game that should be played professionally, as it's easily one of the worst FPSes ever created, and on top of that, it's a CONSOLE FPS. At least CoD4 is on PC.

MLG obviously has no intention of nurturing the pro gaming scene in a way that organizations like cyber evolution have. Their main intent is to very obviously and shamlessly give more attention to weak yet profitable games and the people who have decided to dedicate themselves to them. Shunning the Smash scene (which is obviously unprofitable for MLG's parent company) is a huge slap in the face to a giant segment of the pro gaming community in general.