SSBB Automatic Polygon Deleter A

[.Fade]

It should be in the FitIke.pac, no numbers. If it's not in there it's in the FitIkeMotionEtc.pac file.

If I just delete the model of the sword glow, will it just disappear from everything? =3

 

[Jys072595]

Is there a link to the download anywhere besides Mediafire? It isn't working for me for some reason.

 

[Zolga Owns]

Here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K5ZEPW8V

I'll try this out later ^^
This seems like it will be a great help(maybe something you could talk to Kryal about putting into BrawlBox?)

 

[SqLeon]

Here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K5ZEPW8V

I'll try this out later ^^
This seems like it will be a great help(maybe something you could talk to Kryal about putting into BrawlBox?)

Do you mind if I put that link in the first post?

 

[Zolga Owns]

Feel free, it is your program after all.

 

[Eldiran]

Thank you.

I tried removing it, got the same effect, then removing it on both the pac and pcs, got the same effect, then tried hexing it off, got the same effect, tried hexing it off of the polygon file itself, got the same effect, still more trial and error left, will post if I fix it.



I think this is the same thing as the ness problem, will try to fix.

Thanks! It seems like a natural result of hexing polygons, rather than any mis-application of method. If that sentence is at all clear. Do you think it is actually fixable?

 

[Power Marshall]

If this deletes the entire polygon, would you work on getting part of a polygon?

EX(removing Mario's mustache even if it is connected to his arms.)

 

[fortwaffles]

Thanks! It seems like a natural result of hexing polygons, rather than any mis-application of method. If that sentence is at all clear. Do you think it is actually fixable?

The answer is yes, but you are looking at fixing it the wrong way.
From what I found, this glitch is from the same polygon being attached to more than 2 bones. Think of this, the polygon remover just moves all verices to 0,0,0 that is relative to the bone. so say you have an arm (connected to two bones) the vertices are moved to 0,0,0 in two spots, both arm bones. that would make an invisible line (invisible because it's ! dimensional) now when we have 3 or more bones, those 3 points are connecting to each other to make a 2-D (or 3-D if more than 3 bones) polygon. the only way i can think of would be to find what vertices are referenced by what bones, and re-reference them to one.
hope this cleared stuff up

Edit: Power Marshall, that can be done easier with my vertex hacking technique

 

[Eldiran]

The answer is yes, but you are looking at fixing it the wrong way.
From what I found, this glitch is from the same polygon being attached to more than 2 bones. Think of this, the polygon remover just moves all verices to 0,0,0 that is relative to the bone. so say you have an arm (connected to two bones) the vertices are moved to 0,0,0 in two spots, both arm bones. that would make an invisible line (invisible because it's ! dimensional) now when we have 3 or more bones, those 3 points are connecting to each other to make a 2-D (or 3-D if more than 3 bones) polygon. the only way i can think of would be to find what vertices are referenced by what bones, and re-reference them to one.
hope this cleared stuff up

Edit: Power Marshall, that can be done easier with my vertex hacking technique

Ah, I think I understand. That makes sense. I don't know what you mean by "re-referencing", specifically, but somehow I doubt I could implement it even if I did.

Doesn't sound particularly automatable either...

 

[fortwaffles]

Ah, I think I understand. That makes sense. I don't know what you mean by "re-referencing", specifically, but somehow I doubt I could implement it even if I did.

Doesn't sound particularly automatable either...

by re-referencing i meant re assigning the vertices to a different bone (like arm vertices to shoulder)

 

[Eldiran]

by re-referencing i meant re assigning the vertices to a different bone (like arm vertices to shoulder)

Okay. I suppose since it's polygons and vertices, it shouldn't make any difference in gameplay, so that's good.

Now I have to wonder -- do we know how to tell what bones vertices reference?

 

[STUFF2o]

If this deletes the entire polygon, would you work on getting part of a polygon?

EX(removing Mario's mustache even if it is connected to his arms.)

^This

I don't want to have to vertex edit stuff just to delete part of a model.

 

[Eldiran]

If this deletes the entire polygon, would you work on getting part of a polygon?

EX(removing Mario's mustache even if it is connected to his arms.)

Did you want mustacheless Mario specifically? This thread has that along with a bunch of other awesome edits:

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=4592.0;topicseen

 

[SqLeon]

I managed to fix the ness thing in Brawl Box, but I have a feeling it's gonna freeze, I currently do not have access to a wii so if anyone could kindly test it for me please. If it works it would fix jigglypuff as well.


http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1adf6744a7f7dabfe62ea590dc5e5dbb3567afee86dab52d438b7f7157b254d4

 

[MaRRoK]

i luv you...
thanks for this. this is going to make life sooo much easier.
skyworld is now playable stage. awesome.

 

[SqLeon]

I managed to fix the ness thing in Brawl Box, but I have a feeling it's gonna freeze, I currently do not have access to a wii so if anyone could kindly test it for me please. If it works it would fix jigglypuff as well.


http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1adf6744a7f7dabfe62ea590dc5e5dbb3567afee86dab52d438b7f7157b254d4

SUPER please?

 

[camelot]

Yeah, it froze.

 

[Eldiran]

SUPER please?

Aye, it freezes before it even finishes loading the level.

 

[SqLeon]

Thank you, sorry for asking twice, if anyone could test these now(use both of them):

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1adf6744a7f7dabfe62ea590dc5e5dbb3567afee86dab52d438b7f7157b254d4

 

[Eldiran]

Thank you, sorry for asking twice, if anyone could test these now(use both of them):

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1adf6744a7f7dabfe62ea590dc5e5dbb3567afee86dab52d438b7f7157b254d4

Tested on Zebesian Ridley FD and Smashville, and it seems to work flawlessly! Ness has no backpack and no graphical glitching.

Also works fine on PTAD and the Results Screen.

 

[SqLeon]

Tested on Zebesian Ridley FD and Smashville, and it seems to work flawlessly! Ness has no backpack and no graphical glitching.

Also works fine on PTAD and the Results Screen.

Yeah!!!!!!! Thank you! This is good. I will rebuild the program so this error does not occur. Also the instructions are going to change.

 

[SqLeon]

OP has been updated with new download.

*It's not neccesary to change the file extension to txt.
*No more of this vertice nonsense.
*I believe the glitch with the deformed polygons is fixed.


@Eldiran- tell me if jigglypuff works with her polygons removed.

 

[meleemaster500]

do you think this program might eventually have a way to easily move veticies around as well?

 

[luigiman1928]

You sir, are a BEAST for making this.




Now i dont need a HEXxer on my Mom's CPU!

 

[Eldiran]

OP has been updated with new download.

*It's not neccesary to change the file extension to txt.
*No more of this vertice nonsense.
*I believe the glitch with the deformed polygons is fixed.


@Eldiran- tell me if jigglypuff works with her polygons removed.

Removing any polygon with version 2 causes a crash.

 

[SqLeon]

Removing any polygon with version 2 causes a crash.

on the computer, or in-game?

 

[Eldiran]

on the computer, or in-game?

In the game. Specifically, I removed an unedited Jigglypuff's ears (polygon2) and tried to load the .pac in-game, at which point it crashed. I also tried just a removal of Jiggly's body (polygon1) and that crashed the same.

 

[SqLeon]

In the game. Specifically, I removed an unedited Jigglypuff's ears (polygon2) and tried to load the .pac in-game, at which point it crashed. I also tried just a removal of Jiggly's body (polygon1) and that crashed the same.

See if it works by removing the same thing on both the pac and the pcs.

 

[Power Marshall]

In the game. Specifically, I removed an unedited Jigglypuff's ears (polygon2) and tried to load the .pac in-game, at which point it crashed. I also tried just a removal of Jiggly's body (polygon1) and that crashed the same.

aye, just loaded a Yoshi.pcs without a saddle using the automatic deleter, and in-game became really slow and one part of Yoshi was very enlarged.

 

[SqLeon]

aye, just loaded a Yoshi.pcs without a saddle using the automatic deleter, and in-game became really slow and one part of Yoshi was very enlarged.

d.amnit.............Im removing the download until I fix it.


Edit:

Could anyone try this, It's jigglypuff w/o polygons.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1adf6744a7f7dabfe62ea590dc5e5dbbc9dd594371163b44284a1690ac06f797

 

[Eldiran]

d.amnit.............Im removing the download until I fix it.


Edit:

Could anyone try this, It's jigglypuff w/o polygons.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1adf6744a7f7dabfe62ea590dc5e5dbbc9dd594371163b44284a1690ac06f797

Ah! I downloaded the .pcs file, and it appears to work perfectly. No parts whatsoever. Thank you very much!

And no lagging or glitching on Smashville, PTAD, or the results screen.

 

[SqLeon]

The download is back up.




Remember to use the mdl0 offset and totallen from the polygon now, not the vertice.

 

[Eldiran]

The download is back up.




Remember to use the mdl0 offset and totallen from the polygon now, not the vertice.

Cool! Was there a problem, or did I just do something wrong?

 

[SqLeon]

there was a stupid mistake, a typo in the amount of bytes to skip and overwrite.

 

[Power Marshall]

Yes! Saddle-less Yoshi works now! God bless you, SqLeon!

 

[Eldiran]

there was a stupid mistake, a typo in the amount of bytes to skip and overwrite.

Ah, I gotcha. I look forward to trying it out again!

 

[superyoshi888]

....Coolio. Now I can make a proper Missingno. hack using this.

But maybe I should work on Palkia first. :/

 

[fortwaffles]

:O finally! Average everyday Marth here I come!

 

[Power Marshall]

Actually.... sorry to inform you, SqLeon... My Yoshi is the same... Except only when he attacks someone. So basically it is good for looks not for brawling, heh... :/

 

[superyoshi888]

PM, you could probably try to be more specific about your problem. Does the polygon edit only occur during an attack? Does it not appear at all?

And lol, I thought of a great use for this and vertex editing. We can find a trophy we want, remove polygons until we get the part we need, and then vertex edit it until it looks proper. Then it can be model swapped with an article if the trophy has the proper number of bones(I think many articles only need around 4-8 bones, which matches quite a few trophies). That way custom articles can be made.