SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Croph]

G-guys, look at the reflection.

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Coincidence? I think NOT

But seriously thought, that thing's so blurry i can't tell anything about a resemblance to someone. That's what i get for thinking outside the screen box

Funny you mention that because I thought the figure in the frame-like thing is the actual leaker... but then I noticed it's actually a poster of some person in front of a frame-like thing.

It's such a bizarre leak, especially showing the person's room where this leak is.

 

[BugDoctor]

http://i.imgur.com/Ztm3vjr.jpg

I don't think I even need to edit it, it is just right there, in front of the TV. Not sure if it is a book or what it is, but clearly reads "photography"

EDIT: What I'm trying to say is that it could be another hint towards it being fake, just like the middle finger and all of that.

I admit the photography book is very strange. Why would it be obscuring part of the TV to begin with?

 

[Zhadgon]

I´m #TeamRealPalutena+Chrom XD.
.n_n.

 

[LF2K]

Maybe he was trying to learn how to take a clean picture of a TV screen?

 

[NastCF]

Hey, lurker here. If it's okay I'd like to make a contribution to the Chrom leak subject.

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Assuming the Marth screenshot was used as a base to create the leak, the left side of the background would have to be made from scratch since it's covered by Marth's cape, and that would allow for inconsistencies to happen. And I did find two:

The horizon line is not consistent between the two sides;

The left is cropped from the left side of the background, likewise for the right. The colors don't match.


Those are the things I noticed. I'm really leaning towards this being a well-made fake.

 

[majora_787]

To play devil's advocate, it's not like we know what the background is doing behind Chrom OR the angle of the shot taken. We can really only assume.

 

[Bauske]

Ok, guys. As you know, this is Marth:

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And, this is Marth's face:

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Let's see if it fits Chrom:

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I guess not, right? But, if we make the eyes smaller, so the face looks bigger, and change the position of the mouth and the nose, we can get this:

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And here's Chrom. It's basically a matter of smoothness (and maybe blurriness). Oh, the left eye is a little off, but enough with edits. It's 00:50 here and I'm going to work early.

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My veredict: It's fake. Unless the guy managed to take the picture from the same height and angle as Marth's picture. If you don't see it, open the last two images on different tabs and compare them.
Good night.

Well done, man. This is exactly what I've been saying. As someone who uses Photoshop and knows what it can do, it's too similar in position and pose for me to call it real. The Palutena images seem real to me because no one can find an image or model that's the same or even close. It's authentic. The moment this one lined up with the Marth picture, I lost all faith in it.

the pupils and eye lashes don't match in my opinion

Again, moderatly easy to rework in Photoshop.

 

[NastCF]

To play devil's advocate, it's not like we know what the background is doing behind Chrom OR the angle of the shot taken. We can really only assume.

That's true, but the fact that the background is consistent on the right and completely different on the left, and the left side conveniently being the one that would have to be made from scratch, sounds a bit too fishy to me. It wouldn't be impossible I suppose, just incredibly coincidental.

 

[Staarih]

So, a Chrom leak? Interesting! I'm no good at debunking it or confirming it being real or anything, but I'm fine either way really. I consider Chrom a shoo-in anyway, much like Palutena.

 

[Cold Fusion]

Maybe the guy photoshopped his ROOM into the photo?

 

[Silvera]

Maybe the guy photoshopped his room into the photo?

All that for a leak? lol

 

[IsmaR]

12 years of speculation in the making gone done the toilet in the span of one evening. And it's not even April 1st yet.

 

[Nintendotard]

It doesn't look believable to me...the model itself looks off...

 

[Tree Gelbman]

God, couldn't the leak be of a more interesting character if it had to be such a believable quality fake? If you're going to put this much effort into a Wii U fake don't make it ****ing Chrom of all people.

I lean more towards this being fake this time around. Unless that's a picture from his reveal trailer he would not be that smooth.

But hey what do I know, because Chrom might have a special victory theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUxrpIwuQ4

 

[Radical Bones]

God, couldn't the leak be of a more interesting character if it had to be such a believable quality fake? If you're going to put this much effort into a Wii U fake don't make it ****ing Chrom of all people.

I lean more towards this being fake this time around. Unless that's a picture from his reveal trailer he would not be that smooth.

But hey what do I know, because Chrom might have a special victory theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUxrpIwuQ4

Have you played much Fire Emblem? Chrom is one of the best Lord's on the series. Actually has a personality and a sense of humour.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Have you played much Fire Emblem? Chrom is one of the best Lord's on the series. Actually has a personality and a sense of humour.

I have not played much Fire Emblem, but genuinely I have a hard time getting excited about him for a few reasons. The lack of not knowing much about him, as well as the fact he's someone who would seem to be a shoo in.

So why bother making a fake leak of him? Make a leak of someone who might be risky. Just seems more fun if you're gonna troll the fandom.

 

[Oblivion129]

About the "he looks too much like Marth" thing. He's supposed to. Look at other models from characters of the same franchise. Peach and Rosalina have similar faces.

I'm not confirming it 100%, I'm just saying it makes sense to have a similar face.

I'm not leaning towards fake or real, though, because of April Fools.

 

[Cheesedork]

What if it's a leak from an Awakening sequel for Wii U?
Anyone? No?

Well, I'll be happy if it's real, even if I prefer Robin.

 

[gameb0ybryan]

Hey, lurker here. If it's okay I'd like to make a contribution to the Chrom leak subject.

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Assuming the Marth screenshot was used as a base to create the leak, the left side of the background would have to be made from scratch since it's covered by Marth's cape, and that would allow for inconsistencies to happen. And I did find two:

The horizon line is not consistent between the two sides;

The left is cropped from the left side of the background, likewise for the right. The colors don't match.


Those are the things I noticed. I'm really leaning towards this being a well-made fake.

Wow, this just got debunked systematically. I am a design student so I can validate this argument. What you said is correct and also note the linear lines that carry over from his shoulder plate into the background. This is proof that the Marth pic was 'shopped and the rest of the 'model' was layered in.

 

[Shin F.]

You know guys, there have been a lot of rather excellent Fire Emblem Brawl Mods (Lucina and Mia come to mind). One has not yet been made for Chrom, but what if someone was already making one to release on the vault? What if the model was recently completed and the person who made it decided to use it for an April Fool's joke before releasing it?

The background can be explained away as someone using an SSB4 snapshot for a stage background. Even the inconsistent horizon can be explained as the 'leaker' specifically using that camera angle to have Chrom's body hide the hasty Photoshopping used to make it.

Or it could've even been made from a render outside the game with the background still being shopped on in post...

Guess we'll know if we see a Chrom hack on the Vault soon.

 

[Cold Fusion]

I'm not taking sides here, but don't ignore the possibility that he took a photo and photoshopped it to make it look more like marth just to throw off the nintenjas..

 

[Ixbran]

Someone posted this on GameFAQ's and thought it wouldn't hurt to share it

Personally I don't think this is true, if only for the fact I don't want it to be, as well as the various proposition that prove it could very well indeed be fake.

 

[Zynux]

Hey, lurker here. If it's okay I'd like to make a contribution to the Chrom leak subject.

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Assuming the Marth screenshot was used as a base to create the leak, the left side of the background would have to be made from scratch since it's covered by Marth's cape, and that would allow for inconsistencies to happen. And I did find two:

The horizon line is not consistent between the two sides;

The left is cropped from the left side of the background, likewise for the right. The colors don't match.


Those are the things I noticed. I'm really leaning towards this being a well-made fake.

Noticed this as well, but wasn't entirely confident in it so I didn't post it. Damn, good findings!

I had such varying emotions with this leak. First posted, I really saw it as an obvious fake, then I started to believe in it a bit more, but now I'm way leaning more on "extremely well done fake" myself.

Still, major props to the "leaker". If this truly is fake, I ain't even mad. Huge amount of effort went into this. Though it doesn't have as much going for it as Palutena did, I'm keeping my mind open on this one.

 

[Piks]

I'm surprised more people aren't treating this as a joke. It has a lot of elements in it that are obvious parodies of a typical ""leak"" among with some other silly stuff, such as the irate gamer/other m poster

 

[Artiferox]

I don't know what to believe. If it's fake and the leaker wanted it to be believable, why did they take a picture of their room. And why the hand sign? If they wanted to fool people they could have just mirrored the picture at least, to make it harder to find a similar picture of Marth (if they really based it on it).
And another thing. The in-game models don't have this level of detail. If it turns out to be true then this is definitely from the reveal trailer. Or the character art pasted on an existing background.

 

[gameb0ybryan]

I'm surprised more people aren't treating this as a joke. It has a lot of elements in it that are obvious parodies of a typical ""leak"" among with some other silly stuff, such as the irate gamer/other m poster

It feels like everyone was prepared for april fools joke leaks, then this happens.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

That Chrom leak looks pretty kewl.

 

[Silvera]

And another thing. The in-game models don't have this level of detail. If it turns out to be true then this is definitely from the reveal trailer. Or the character art pasted on an existing background.

If it was from a trailer, how could he manage to view it ahead of time?

 

[PurpleSpaceDragon]

Has anyone figured out where the armor and clothing came from?

Are the plate armor, collar, and chest strap brand new models, or have they been seen before in a game/artwork?

 

[ToothiestAura]

It's a joke. And I think it's obvious. If this was a real leak the photographer would have just taken a close-up of the TV. The prankster (as I will now refer to him) is clearly making a joke. One need only to look at the full image to tell that that is the case. If it were supposed to be believable, there would be no scenery in the pic at all. Maybe that's the real joke and it's meant to be seen as fake and is actually real.
However, the simplest and most likely answer is that it's fake. As is the case with all April Fool's Day jokes and 99% of leaks.

 

[R0Y]

Don't do this to yourselves guys...this one is undeniably fake. Only one that might not be are those 2 Palutena pictures.

 

[majora_787]

Don't do this to yourselves guys...this one is undeniably fake. Only one that might not be are those 2 Palutena pictures.

This is hilarious for so many reasons. No.

But yeah I dunno. I'm trying to actually look at the picture here. I don't know why people are trying to use this guy's interior decorating as evidence to the legitimacy of the picture on his television.

 

[kataridragon]

You know whats odd about this picture?... Well besides all of the other odd stuff no one has mentioned. There is a picture of the Irate gamer to the left of the TV.

http://youtu.be/helswqzTlX4

Im not sure why I am the only one who has noticed......

 

[Zynux]

I'm surprised more people aren't treating this as a joke. It has a lot of elements in it that are obvious parodies of a typical ""leak"" among with some other silly stuff, such as the irate gamer/other m poster

To be fair, where's the fun in that? What's the point of a leak thread if we're just going to brush aside a "leak" just because of the date its posted on and his interior room? While those are definitely red-flags for any leak, joke or not you have to be thorough in your debunking (especially with picture leaks) and actually look at the meat of the picture, which in this case is the Chrom model and the landscape behind him.

 

[Deleted member]

Certainly much better quality than the Nester fake.


....Fakes are getting much better. Granted, this one has noticeable giveaways (such as being eerily similar to Marth's facial position), but after this and the Falco fakes, I'm really questioning the legitimacy of the Palutena pics.

No, I can't prove them to be fake. But not being able to be proven fake =/= proven true.
I don't believe in any of the known pictures whatsoever anymore.

 

[Wanderer from Roseyard]

You know whats odd about this picture?... Well besides all of the other odd stuff no one has mentioned. There is a picture of the Irate gamer to the left of the TV.

http://youtu.be/helswqzTlX4

Im not sure why I am the only one who has noticed......

Are you, though?

 

[kataridragon]

Are you, though?

Yes..... Despite all evidence to the contrary!!!

 

[Soupenomics]

You know whats odd about this picture?... Well besides all of the other odd stuff no one has mentioned. There is a picture of the Irate gamer to the left of the TV.

http://youtu.be/helswqzTlX4

Im not sure why I am the only one who has noticed......

You aren't.

I'm surprised more people aren't treating this as a joke. It has a lot of elements in it that are obvious parodies of a typical ""leak"" among with some other silly stuff, such as the irate gamer/other m poster

 

[kataridragon]

I think it would be awesome if we got a real leak today from good ol sak and we all assumed it was fake..... but it was real!!!!

 

[Syroco]

I have not played much Fire Emblem, but genuinely I have a hard time getting excited about him for a few reasons. The lack of not knowing much about him, as well as the fact he's someone who would seem to be a shoo in.

So why bother making a fake leak of him? Make a leak of someone who might be risky. Just seems more fun if you're gonna troll the fandom.

Okay, so then how did you feel about Ike/Roy before their inclusion? (Hypothetically) Before you say that you played both the games that they were featured in is what had you excited about them, then why shouldn't it be the same for Chrom?