SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Substitution]

The thing that gets me though is he refers to Avatar, Tharja, and Awakening by their Japanese names, and Bowser, Jigglypuff, Garchomp, Tyranitar, Metal Face, and Magolor by their English names.

I'm assuming it's for us to know who's who, but it is strange to use the Japanese names, but then just suddenly use the English names.

 

[N3ON]

I'm assuming it's for us to know who's who, but it is strange to use the Japanese names, but then just suddenly use English names.

Yeah, but if that were the case I'd think he'd do that for the names he left in Japanese as well. It's not that the names are Japanese, it's not that they're in English, it's that they're in both, and that's a strange inconsistency. It's not really enough to make or break the rumor, but imo it doesn't add to its credibility.

I also think naming yourself "NotSakurai" is trying too hard.

 

[Dott]

I also think naming yourself "NotSakurai" is trying too hard.

It's like...

 

[Substitution]

Even for a fake leak, this isn't that well written. You use the Japanese names for the Fire Emblem stuff but English names for everything else? Sounds more like an obsessive "Japanese names only" Fire Emblem fan than a leaker.

Even GameFaqs is calling this out.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Copying its content over because the dumbarse GameFAQs mods delete all "leaks."

Pardon if the English I use is not the best.

Before I go on and discuss what I know, I am not Sakurai. I am not claiming to have worked on the game, though I have seen some production sketches and even heard about the game progress over dinner with a few of my friends who work on the game. If you do not wish to be spoiled or disappointed, I suggest to stop reading. Now here is what I know for sure.

New Items:

Barrel Cannon from Melee and Donkey Kong

Tiki's Tear, which increases damage given by 1.1X and damage taken .9X. From Fire Emblem Kakusei

Baby Yoshi that blocks projectiles, can wander off stage and can be KO'd. From New Super Mario Brothers U

New Stages Include

Lor Starcutter, which is a peaceful stage that can tilt due to Landia and Magalor Fighting over the Master Crown. This stage is on the Wii U.

Pokemon World Tournament, in which certain Pokemon like Garchomp and Tyranitar will battle. They become a stage hazard when Mega Evolution is in play though! This stage is on the 3DS.

A Chimera Factory stage from Mother 3, in which different chimeras roam, waiting for snack! This stage is on the 3DS

An 8 bit version of Ice Climber, in which players can destroy platforms and use enemies to KO opponents, This stage is on both Wii U and 3DS

Prison Island from Xenoblade, in which Metal Face appears in the background, and is fought in adventure mode. The music is to die for on this stage. This Stage is on the Wii U

No Melee Stage is returning unless you count Battlefield and Final Destination.

New Assist Trophies

Sallya, who uses Dark Magic to damage the opponent and heal her summoner. From Fire Emblem Kakusei

Tails, who can save a summoner from being knocked off only once, but can be KO'd himself.

Magnus from Kid Icarus, who uses his sword to do two strikes, but can be dodged easily.

Character Details

My Unit from Fire Emblem Kakusei is a newcomer. My Unit uses a unique stance change moveset, in order to diversify the Fire Emblem newcomers. There are costumes for both a male and female My Unit. The final smash involves Grima, though Grima is also an adventure mode boss.

Shulk, who uses the Monodo to strengthen his own attributes in battle, and is about as fast as link normally. He is the most recent character to be added into Smash Bros.

Ridley, who Sakurai added in order to please Western Fans. He is the largest character in the game, a bit taller than Bowser. He focuses on aerial combat, and has a hover much like Peach's, His final smash is Meta Ridley

The Pokemon Lineup is Mewtwo, Lucario, Jigglypuff, Pikachu, and Pokemon Trainer, who reprises his pokemon.

Discussion on Snakes return are vague. The possibility of replacing Solid Snake with Naked Snake is there...

There are no other Mario characters besides Rosalina added, though Dr Mario is a Mario Skin...

The only cut characters are Pichu, Young Link, and Roy. Snake is possible at this point, if only to be replaced by his father, who would be called Snake.

Keep in mind that this is all i know, and this is a throwaway account.

I think it's false because Snake's return should in no way be vague this late in development, given his third party nature, though maybe that's just the guy's alleged poor English coming into play. It's at least worth noting that both this and the PackedMeGloves leak from a few days back had Lorr Starcutter as a new stage (this leak loosely matches the description of the previous one of it being a variation on Corneria; it's peaceful, just tilting somewhat).

Not bad any one of the rumor things does not happen its fake

Athough one mistake though where's skull kid in the new assist trophys?

 

[Substitution]

Athough one mistake though where's skull kid in the new assist trophys?

Doesn't that go without saying?

 

[N3ON]

It's like...

Well that's not Kojima, it's one of his clones.

Even GameFaqs is calling this out.

Good. He'll probably cover it with feigning ignorance or something, but it's good that even GameFAQs can pick up on it.

Not bad any one of the rumor things does not happen its fake

Athough one mistake though where's skull kid in the new assist trophys?

I don't think he was aiming to list all the new ATs, just some of them. Like stages and characters, there are bound to be more.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I don't think he was aiming to list all the new ATs, just some of them. Like stages and characters, there are bound to be more.

Makes sense I mean little mac is very likely and he's not on that list either

 

[JetpackX]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68248608

New GameFAQs leak, thoughs?

It seems like heaven, with its ideas, but i think it might be fake...

Seems pretty legit lol

 

[Nintendotard]

As soon as I saw Tails I can pretty much say this is fake :\

 

[LF2K]

Seems pretty legit lol

 

[Motor Bug2005]

Here's yet another "leak" from GameFAQs by a user called Occopicus:

Okay, here we go. I know I'll get a lot of hate for this, but trust me, I am telling the truth. Anyway, I am best friends with an employee of Namco Bandai and SSB4 developer, who has been telling me some info about SSB4. I've decided to leak it here. First of all, the E3 leak is 100% true.

Little Mac, Pac-Man and the Mii are all characters that are appearing in the game. The Mii can have customizable movesets, but Sakurai balanced it out pretty well with a points system. You have 100 points, and different moves cost a different amount of points. Stronger moves cost more points than weaker ones. There is always 1 free move in each category, so if you run out of points, it's no problem. You can also report offensive Miis during online play. Next, let's move on to Pac-Man.

Pac-Man uses mostly attacks from his arcade game, mixed in with a few moves from the newer games. His main attacks include rolling into enemies, chomping and eating them, and bouncing downwards quickly. He also uses a chain of dots as a tether recovery, and a cherry as an explosive ("Cherry Bomb"). He is currently set to be revealed at E3 2014, although that might change.

Meanwhile, Little Mac has a unique gimmick, Star Collection. The more damage Mac does, the more stars he gets. His Neutral and Up Specials use stars to get stronger. He also borrows moves his enemies use, as well as a zair which uses a boxing glove attached to a chain. Now, let's move on to newcomers you don't know about yet.

As you may be able to tell, Sakurai wants to give most characters a unique gimmick. The 2 other newcomers Sakurai and the team are currently (there will be more) working on shows that. They are Muddy Mole and Zoroark, 2 characters Sakurai found massive potential in. For those who don't know, Muddy Mole is from a retro game called Mole Mania. Muddy's main gimmick is digging. He can dig through the ground by holding down his Down Special. The team is still fixing a few glitches with him, but he's pretty much done.

Meanwhile, Zoroark is the character the team is working on as of now. She will have the Illusion ability, where she disguises herself as another character. If she gets hit, then she will appear normal for a few seconds. Her attacks and hitbox will not change, even if she is disguised as, say, Kirby. It's quite an obvious disguise, but it can sometimes fool people. There are quite a few glitches with her still to work on, so don't expect to see her any time soon.

The uniqueness factor also factors in to other veteran's movesets. Take, for instance, Lucario. He starts out as a Riolu now, and after 20% he becomes a Lucario. After 100%, he evolves into Mega Lucario, who is much stronger. Sadly, since we have both Lucario and Zoroark, this means Mewtwo isn't appearing. Sakurai said that Lucario had a more important role in the games, and decided to not use the anime as a factor of importance this time. Sorry, Mewtwo fans, but just isn't happening.

So, that's all I'll tell you for now, if you have any questions, feel free to ask your questions in the comments! I may not know, but it's worth a try! See you later!

 

[MasterOfKnees]

As soon as I saw Tails I can pretty much say this is fake :\

To be fair he was listed under ATs, and Sonic did have an AT in Brawl, so yeah.

Either way, it's obviously just a troll having fun. Would have been ****ing awesome though, all of a sudden I really want the Chimera Factory from Mother 3 as a stage.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Here's yet another "leak" from GameFAQs by a user called Occopicus:

The whole Lucario part really doesn't makes sense and a terrible idea to go with that. So NOPE!

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Aside from the lack of Mewtwo but the inclusion of Zoroark, he also claims to be the best friend of an employee of Namco Bandai and SSB4 developer.


That alone convinces me it's fake.

 

[peachy!]

I wouldn't mind the Lor Starcutter as a stage, actually. It is interesting that two "leakers" mention it.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I wouldn't mind the Lor Starcutter as a stage, actually. It is interesting that two "leakers" mention it.

It's kind of an obvious stage as nearly all of Return to Dreamland centers around it. I'd personally prefer the molten part Halcandra as a stage, it'd look incredibly in HD with those big molten fireballs floating in the air. Maybe have Landia as a stage hazard or just be in the background.

 

[Lugubrious]

Some guy on Miiverse linked me to http://dualpixels.com/2012/11/29/ru...y-hardware-and-third-party-softwear-next-gen/. Some elements of it are very obviously false, but I figured you guys might want to take a look at it anyway.

 

[TORNADO BUS DRIVER]

Here's yet another "leak" from GameFAQs by a user called Occopicus:

May i have a link to it ?

 

[peachy!]

It's kind of an obvious stage as nearly all of Return to Dreamland centers around it. I'd personally prefer the molten part Halcandra as a stage, it'd look incredibly in HD with those big molten fireballs floating in the air. Maybe have Landia as a stage hazard or just be in the background.

Halcandra would look beastly in HD, too. I was thinking about a stage that begins with the players fighting about the Lor, which then flies to Halcandra. And like you said, have Landia make a brief cameo.

 

[Motor Bug2005]

May i have a link to it ?

Right here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68249810

 

[majora_787]

Some guy on Miiverse linked me to http://dualpixels.com/2012/11/29/ru...y-hardware-and-third-party-softwear-next-gen/. Some elements of it are very obviously false, but I figured you guys might want to take a look at it anyway.

A year? They think Sakurai and Namco would require... 56+ months of development time to finish a Smash Bros. game? Well that's... special.

 

[Deleted member]

....That **** is old.
Does no one read dates on articles anymore?

 

[Lugubrious]

Didn't really think of that. I guess the guy on Miiverse didn't either.

 

[Substitution]

A year? They think Sakurai and Namco would require... 56+ months of development time to finish a Smash Bros. game? Well that's... special.

Where does it say they'll take around 4.6 years to develop Smash Bros?

 

[soviet prince]

do u really think sakurai would not have decided on which snake to use by now?

 

[Kel]

A year? They think Sakurai and Namco would require... 56+ months of development time to finish a Smash Bros. game? Well that's... special.

"By Alexander Maier on November 29, 2012"
The article is saying that the game would be out after E3 2014.

 

[8-peacock-8]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68248608

New GameFAQs leak, thoughs?

It seems like heaven, with its ideas, but i think it might be fake...

I honestly like a few of those ideas. lol

 

[majora_787]

Oh. I thought it was saying that they would be taking another year after E3 2014 which is kind of... yeah. Misreading for the win.

 

[The Drilling Juggernaut]

Lor Starcutter. ewwww please no. I really enjoyed Returned to Dreamland, but the ending was really meh.

[COLLAPSE=Return to Dreamland spoilers] Having Magolor betray felt like homage to Marx, but I would have honestly just preferred Marx. Honestly didn't like the dragons either.

Magolor's final form was pretty awesome though.

If this is somewhere in the stage I might get over the stage.
[/COLLAPSE]

 

[King K.Smasher]

I'm hoping that "new feature" of Lucario is fake. :| Doesn't sound good at all~

 

[BKupa666]

I'm going to dissect why that recent leak is wrong once I'm back on my laptop, but good golly, these leaks have just been flooding in ever since that Orange Grenades leak. I got on a two hour plane ride after reading that Poor English one, only to find yet another Muddy Mole one posted and deleted once I landed. And there's now some guy claiming to be siblings with a Sora Ltd. intern leaking info as I type. Everyone who wanted leaks in the new year, looks like you're getting all you wished for and more.

 

[SmasherMaster]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68248608

New GameFAQs leak, thoughs?

It seems like heaven, with its ideas, but i think it might be fake...

There is one problem. The leaker claims that Shulk is the most recent character to be is Smash Bros. But My Unit is actually the most recent character if including all of the characters!

June 10, 2010 was when Xenoblade was introduced in Japan. But April 19, 2012 was when the Fire Emblum Awakening came out in Japan!


Unless the leaker meant that Shulk was the character to be added last, not be introduced to the public last.

 

[Sonicguy726]

I still say that link is purely based on twilight princess with brighter colours

 

[XStarWarriorX]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68248608

New GameFAQs leak, thoughs?

It seems like heaven, with its ideas, but i think it might be fake...

Sigh obviously fake. (NotSakurai.... really? this guy most be 13-15)

Maybe if a leaker posted on NeoGAF or here it would be more believable. Because Gamefaqs isn't the same anymore... its just filled with troll topics and idiocy.

 

[Deleted member]

So in other words....it's the same as it always was.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I got a PM on GameFAQs:

I am sending this out to random members who have participated in Smash-related threads, so as to avoid excessive screams of "liar" and "fake" (I set my account to block PM after sending these).

Believe me or don't, but I have some information which we have not seen before because, as cliche as this may come of, I know a guy who knows a guy.

As you may have noticed, Nintendo has been trying to embrace indie developers more and more (despite their very limited library as of current).
One such thing they are doing for this -- much in the style of the Earthbound Bombshell -- is release a port of the moderately popular "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure" (for those of you who don't know, this is a satirical 8-bit game based upon Oregon Trails), along with it's sequel "SUPER Super Amazing Wagon Adventure," which is similar to the previous game, but in a moderately higher resolution, and taking much inspiration from and references to SNES-era games.

These include such things as a fight with Mega Man from Mega Man 7 who, midway through the fight, is replaced by the version from Mega Man X for being completely incompetent. Winning will get a wagon called "Wagon Man," in a blatant mockery of the increasing sillyness of the Robot Masters, equipped with a Mega Buster.

You may be asking: "What does this have to do with Smash Bros? I didn't read this message to be told about a mediocre, side-scrolling 2D fighter, I wanted Smash News, or at least a good laugh!"

Well, my friend, you can have both, as, in conjunction with the release of this title, Sakurai will reveal a new stage called "Super Amazing Wagon Adventure U," which is essentially a 3D version of SAWA, which travels on an epic journey across the world, doing nothing in particular. Thankfully, ehis is not a Tour Stage, exactly. The fighting always stays atop the wagon, which only tilts occasionally, makes a tremblng-like motion and experiences low gravity to vsrying degrees depending on the cause (climbing a hill and "fording;" escaping a volcanic eruption and dodging projectiles; falling and being in outer space respectively).

Obviously, no character will appear in the stage that is already in the game (besides characters in other stages, which can still appear).

They are, however, adding in an Assist Trophy called "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" or "B8," which, as one may expect, summons buffalo buffalos, which stampede across the stage, and have a chance of all being on fire.

This is all I know, and I won't share more, as I worry too much leaked information in the future might allow someone to "triangulate" the job of the guy that my guy knows.

Thank you for your time,
[Name Redacted]

PS: If you share this -- which I hope you do -- please don't share my username, things are easier that way.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I got a PM on GameFAQs:

If only I could read the whole thing.... smashboards quote thing's need fixin'.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

If only I could read the whole thing.... smashboards quote thing's need fixin'.

As of now you need to click on the quote in order to read the entire post.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

If only I could read the whole thing.... smashboards quote thing's need fixin'.

Click it. I just use the quote thing as a collapse, and spoilers for actual spoilers now.