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[Ghidorah14]

This is amazing. I cant believe how much love daddy sakurai has for us.

The dev team be like

 

[FlameEmperor]

It's over.. Complete and absolute victory. A toast to you all.

Fabled Weight buff
Large Speed buff
And possibly more..

Ladies and Gentlenmen. We got him.

 

[Y2Kay]

bruh, is this a dream?

I just can't wrap my head around it.

Mewtwo is REALLY GOOD, and then he got buffed even more.

this is just....beautiful

praise be to

 

[Igzex]

Do you now see the reward for your faith?

And perhaps soon...The punishment for many sin drenched heretics to have spoken blasphemy against the fair lady.

 

[Ghidorah14]

inb4 macho brace and carbos jokes.

 

[Igzex]

More like Macho Brace, Poke'rus, and sweet scent...

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I am so happy for all the Mewtwo buffs. It makes me happy as a Mewtwo main. :')

Also glad Greninja and Samus got some buffs too.

 

[FullmetalPain]

Yes! Finally a weight buff

 

[C3CC]

YEEESSS we've been buffed again! What a time to be alive!

TO THE HIGH TIER WE GO!!!!

 

[ZephyrZ]

A weight buff, eh? Honestly I don't think it'll make a real difference. It'll change the way people view the character, but I doubt it'll significantly effect his survivability to any significant degree.

...Wait, there was also a speed buff?
OMIGOSH YES

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I heard Mewtwo is now as fast as Sheik. Anyone confirm?

 

[C3CC]

I heard Mewtwo is now as fast as Sheik. Anyone confirm?

I tested it. It's true!

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

it feels like everyone thought he was trash yesterday

now people think he's like pre patch sonic lol

No one can run faster than Sonic though, or at least, not without a lot of speed investment in the customs department.

 

[LRodC]

Yeah, the weight buff was definitely appreciated but it's not like it's going to make a huge difference in the long run. The speed buff definitely will, though.

Man, if only he was this good at launch. He's come a long way.

 

[Deleted member]

This was in general a great patch. The meta can now progress healthily with Sheik no longer rendering most characters invalid and I'm so happy about it. I wish Mewtwo had his weight higher too (77 or 79 would've been gucci), but we've got a ton of stuff and have to be thankful that we did get buffed in the first place and didn't end up like or in no man's land.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Hold up! We got a new patch with buffs for Mewtwo? Can somebody please tell me that I'm not dreaming.

 

[meleebrawler]

After looking at Shadow Mewtwo and a bit of the plot behind him, he reminds me somewhat of this:

 

[---]

"Goes to sleep for 4 hours, wakes up to even more M2 buffs"

I think I would rather have had an extended ground hitbox on Up-Smash, but at least it's safer overall. I think the only nerfs I don't agree with are Corrin's, but overall this was another great patch with the neutering of the S Tiers/Samus & Zard fixes. DH/Pac Man getting KB buffs are also awesome.

I just wish my other main got some buffs. I'd kill for a landing lag reduction on F-Air or any ending lad reduction on any Smash attack.

 

[CryoGX]

This was the fanservice patch right here, where Daddy Samurai went in and analyzed our strife more in depth since he no longer has development to worry about. Hahaaaa, you THOUGHT the world would end in Shiek.

 

[HakuryuVision]

After looking at Shadow Mewtwo and a bit of the plot behind him, he reminds me somewhat of this:

I was more thinking about this guy:

...then again, the whole "dark/shadow/anti/evil version" of anything has been done to death before.

(on a side note; holy jiminy cricket, i haven't touched MH4 in months! D: )

 

[FlameEmperor]

Even if these changes amount to little in the long run remember its all about public perspective; people see these buffs they are more likely to play which is good.

But from here on out it's about more than simple perspective, it's up to us to bring him beyond people's expectations and into the mainstay spotlight as a threat.

We cannot grow complacent with just pats on the back from the community.

 

[Murlough]

I actually feel bad for the top tiers. Those nerfs are heartbreaking, especially meta knights and Bayonettas.

The buffs to Mewtwo, Zelda, Charizard, and Robin are absolutely justified though so heck yeah!

 

[Yonder]

I actually feel bad for the top tiers. Those nerfs are heartbreaking, especially meta knights and Bayonettas.

The buffs to Mewtwo, Zelda, Charizard, and Robin are absolutely justified though so heck yeah!

Bayo is still an absolute beast, those nerfs were justified and will hardly affect her.

MK on the hand will see a massive drop. Him I feel more sorry for.

Jigglypuff confirmed to be a joke. The only bottom tier who has gone 15 latches without a single buff (unless you actually consider 1% extra flower damage...)

 

[Murlough]

Bayo is still an absolute beast, those nerfs were justified and will hardly affect her.

MK on the hand will see a massive drop. Him I feel more sorry for.

Jigglypuff confirmed to be a joke. The only bottom tier who has gone 15 latches without a single buff (unless you actually consider 1% extra flower damage...)

I'm crying over Jiggles believe me. Its not as sad as Dedede getting a air speed nerf last patch though.

 

[Yonder]

I'm crying over Jiggles believe me. Its not as sad as Dedede getting a air speed nerf last patch though.

Yeah that was pretty wtf worthy for DDD. Then I remember Big D winning all the tourneys I go to and think in a very bias manner that I'm good with it, lol.

(I haven't seen him use DDD in a while though, more Mario)

 

[C3CC]

So what is this change I see to Mewtwo's Up Smash?

Up smash animation length: 73 frames → 68

What does this mean?

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

So what is this change I see to Mewtwo's Up Smash?

Up smash animation length: 73 frames → 68

What does this mean?

Same amount of damage and hits, but takes less time to do it.

 

[Ghidorah14]

Same amount of damage and hits, but takes less time to do it.

So does this mean less endlag as well?

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

So does this mean less endlag as well?

I'm assuming so. I'm not that knowledgeable about specifics like frame rate and end lag.

 

[Murlough]

I thought it specifically meant less active frames for the hitboxes. Less endlag would be SOOOOO good though.

 

[Igzex]

It's likely less attacking frames but since the animation is shorter you don't leave yourself as open if you whiff.

 

[Metallinatus]

Mew2 2 fest plz nefr

I have been very inactive in the boards, but I had to come see the movement here after the patch....
I am very happy about Mewtwo and Samus, but it hurts that ZSS, Cloud and Sheik got hit by such unnecessary nerfs and Rosalina and Bayonetta did NOT!
Do we really want Witch Time to be #1 in the game???

 

[Ghidorah14]

I am very happy about Mewtwo and Samus, but it hurts that ZSS, Cloud and Sheik got hit by such unnecessary nerfs

>top tiers
>unnecessary nerfs

lel

and Rosalina and Bayonetta did NOT!
Do we really want Witch Time to be #1 in the game???

Oh, bayo got hit alright.

http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-5-patch-notes.433162/

 

[Metallinatus]

>top tiers
>unnecessary nerfs

lel



Oh, bayo got hit alright.

http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-5-patch-notes.433162/

So we must forever nerf the top tiers until everybody is Zelda?
And oh, I haven't seen anything about WT ending sooner.... good to know that.

 

[Igzex]

The top tiers have received punishment for their sins. Nothing more, nothing less...

 

[Metallinatus]

The "plz nerf" culture is stronk....
What happened with "adapt"? And none of the top tiers ever reached Brawl's MK or Melee's Fox level of "brokenness" too.

 

[The Legendary DJXYZ]

OMG SAKURAI. THANK YOU.
This... this is beautiful. Say goodbye to the era of Sheik and ZSS... as we welcome our new Luma overlords... and freakin' BUSTED Mewtwo speed. And Greninja gets un-nerfed? This is too perfect!!!

Looks about time to start making a new tier list!

 

[Ghidorah14]

So we must forever nerf the top tiers until everybody is Zelda?

Zelda got buffed, so...

I mean, in a perfect world, there would be no "best character in the game." Making the best characters in the game less dominating (heaven forbid) widens the spectrum of viable characters. Having 2-3 characters be so much blatantly better than everyone else is boring, and it's unhealthy for a fighting game's meta.

But then, you're a ZSS main, so your biased because your character got nerfed. Meanwhile, both of my mains got buffed. Sure, bayo got hit (who I also play), but I think it was a fair nerf. She still has a lot of problems that people like to ignore because "lol situaltional o-death combo that loses to good DI." Those problems being a weak neutral game, reliance on witch time to kill, no grab combos, bad rolls and spotdodge, loses against shields, and having merely OK frame data (as opposed to ZSS's, which is godlike in comparison).

The "plz nerf" culture is stronk....
What happened with "adapt"? And none of the top tiers ever reached Brawl's MK or Melee's Fox level of "brokenness" too.

I think you're the one who needs to adapt now.

To the nerfs, that is.

So much .

 

[Igzex]

I think you're the one who needs to adapt now.

To the nerfs, that is.

Holy-
Wow.
...You get 'em sister!

 

[Ghidorah14]

Holy-
Wow.
...You get 'em sister!

That was Psystrike I just used.

It's Super Effective!