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[Igzex]

Disable is a mental signal delivered through the eyes that locks away one simple thought: Opposing our fair lady.

 

[pikazz]

I see Disable that kind of move that makes your brain go completely blackout or in pokemon enough blackout to forget the last move you did and how to do it until it wears off

 

[U-Throw]

ayy just realized my previous post was my thousandth one. Smash Lord hype. :D

Congratulations! I also agree with most of what you said in your post, especially the thing about buffing Mewtwo's B-Throw and U-Throw. His B-Throw should be buffed because it was a great kill move in Melee, and I'd like to see his U-Throw buffed because... Well, because I'm @ U-Throw .

I wonder what it would be like to be disabled. Would your mind be shocked and paralyzed by the stern glare and the flashing eyes? Or would you be so mesmerized by the colors that there would be no way to respond to the glory that is Mewtwo.

I always imagined getting hit by Smash's Disable would be like staring straight into really bright flash of light. You know, the kind that whites out your vision, burns your eyes, gives you a migraine, and stuns you from shock. In other words, no fun.

 

[meleebrawler]

Mewtwo's grab should have better range, Lucas has I believe 3 kill throws and a grapple. That's a bit unfair

And gets absolutely wrecked for missing anything but a standing grab, sometimes even then. It's range not even that good for a tether.

 

[Ryu Myuutsu]

I agree with boosting Mewtwo's grab range. I've whiffed a lot of times when it looks that is going to be make it. Make it like Lucario's, that would be fair.

Oh, and just my share of the day of For Glory scrubs. I don't want to sound elitist when I refer to them as such, but God, for this people there is no other deserving name at times. I was playing as Ganon and my opponent was Lucario. I racked some good damage while keeping my percentage low, however I lost the first stock for overextending in trying to edgeguard Lucario, my mistake but it wasn't something I couldn't recover from. But when I came back, the dude basically ran off stage and started clinging on the platform wall (it was Omega Green Hill) trying to stall as long as he could, despite there being more than 3 minutes left in the timer. I eventually got him by falling off stage and KOing him with Uair since he was already at kill percentage. And then, after he respawned, what does he does? Runs off the ledge and starts clinging on the wall again, the hell? I eventually got him with a footstool and ko'ed him despite having a fresh stock; but you can see the problem here, the guy wasn't willing to fight and his plan in the end was probably just to end the match in sudden death which is boring, stupid and anti climatic. I don't understand people like this who play the game just for the sake of not playing it, then try to rely on low effort tactics to win the match which rarely works against good players most of the time. Thank goodness there was no lag at least.

 

[Metallinatus]

I agree with boosting Mewtwo's grab range. I've whiffed a lot of times when it looks that is going to be make it. Make it like Lucario's, that would be fair.

Oh, and just my share of the day of For Glory scrubs. I don't want to sound elitist when I refer to them as such, but God, for this people there is no other deserving name at times. I was playing as Ganon and my opponent was Lucario. I racked some good damage while keeping my percentage low, however I lost the first stock for overextending in trying to edgeguard Lucario, my mistake but it wasn't something I couldn't recover from. But when I came back, the dude basically ran off stage and started clinging on the platform wall (it was Omega Green Hill) trying to stall as long as he could, despite there being more than 3 minutes left in the timer. I eventually got him by falling off stage and KOing him with Uair since he was already at kill percentage. And then, after he respawned, what does he does? Runs off the ledge and starts clinging on the wall again, the hell? I eventually got him with a footstool and ko'ed him despite having a fresh stock; but you can see the problem here, the guy wasn't willing to fight and his plan in the end was probably just to end the match in sudden death which is boring, stupid and anti climatic. I don't understand people like this who play the game just for the sake of not playing it, then try to rely on low effort tactics to win the match which rarely works against good players most of the time. Thank goodness there was no lag at least.

There was that time I was using Ganon too against that Wii Fit Trainer who thought it a Villager and decided to ledge camping only running from one ledge to the other, grabbing the ledge, jumping throwing the ball and regrabbing the ledge.
I eventually was able to Dair her to hell in one of those sweet non-invincibility frames of reggrabing the ledge at low percent....
Her second stock was very different and less campy than the first one.

 

[U-Throw]

So, I just found out something interesting. Apparently, the reason none of the Pokémon have their Shiny palettes is because Game Freak/The Pokémon Company won't let Sakurai put them in Smash. It's about "ruining their intellectual property" or some weird, senseless thing like that. At least now we know why some of the Pokémon (Greninja, Charizard, and Mewtwo) have palette swaps that come painfully close to their Shiny colorations, but are just a tad off. I guess it's the closest thing Sakurai can get to the Pokémon's Shiny palettes, so he just has to settle for it.

This also the reason that Game Freak won't let the Pokémon amiibo have compatibility with Yarn Yoshi or Mario Kart 8. Also, if I remember correctly, Sakurai himself once said that Game Freak was difficult to work with. This policy doesn't make any sense to me, and I wish they wouldn't enforce it, but what can you do?

 

[Champ Gold]

So, I just found out something interesting. Apparently, the reason none of the Pokémon have their Shiny palettes is because Game Freak/The Pokémon Company won't let Sakurai put them in Smash. It's about "ruining their intellectual property" or some weird, senseless thing like that. At least now we know why some of the Pokémon (Greninja, Charizard, and Mewtwo) have palette swaps that come painfully close to their Shiny colorations, but are just a tad off. I guess it's the closest thing Sakurai can get to the Pokémon's Shiny palettes, so he just has to settle for it.

This also the reason that Game Freak won't let the Pokémon amiibo have compatibility with Yarn Yoshi or Mario Kart 8. Also, if
I remember correctly, Sakurai himself once said that Game Freak was difficult to work with. This policy doesn't make any sense to me, and I wish they wouldn't enforce it, but what can you do?

Because Game Freak sucks and I hope they split off from Nintendo so Nintendo can have total control over the Pokemon franchise and hopefully give it Monolift Soft or Intelligent Systems to make Pokemon from their style

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So, I just found out something interesting. Apparently, the reason none of the Pokémon have their Shiny palettes is because Game Freak/The Pokémon Company won't let Sakurai put them in Smash. It's about "ruining their intellectual property" or some weird, senseless thing like that. At least now we know why some of the Pokémon (Greninja, Charizard, and Mewtwo) have palette swaps that come painfully close to their Shiny colorations, but are just a tad off. I guess it's the closest thing Sakurai can get to the Pokémon's Shiny palettes, so he just has to settle for it.

This also the reason that Game Freak won't let the Pokémon amiibo have compatibility with Yarn Yoshi or Mario Kart 8. Also, if
I remember correctly, Sakurai himself once said that Game Freak was difficult to work with. This policy doesn't make any sense to me, and I wish they wouldn't enforce it, but what can you do?

This is really disappointing. I don't get how Shiny palettes ruin the IP. I won't complain as long as cool pokemon are added. I want Zoroark dammit!

 

[U-Throw]

Because Game Freak sucks and I hope they split off from Nintendo so Nintendo can have total control over the Pokemon franchise and hopefully give it Monolift Soft or Intelligent Systems to make Pokemon from their style

That could be pretty interesting. Monolith or Intelligent Systems could certainly do some cool stuff with Pokémon. I could see things like new types, more complex moves and items, more intricate stories, better balance, and perhaps a different art direction happening. I normally worry about change, but I could remain open to something like this.

That said, I don't really have anything against Game Freak except for their anal-retentive policy on their IPs, and I don't really think that's worth letting them go over.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Hang on, didn't IS make Conquest, aka, Pokemon Emblem?

 

[Schnee117]

Hang on, didn't IS make Conquest, aka, Pokemon Emblem?

That was Tecmo Koei.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That was Tecmo Koei.

Huh, strange, no large bust and it resembles IS' main game

 

[Metallinatus]

Because Game Freak sucks and I hope they split off from Nintendo so Nintendo can have total control over the Pokemon franchise and hopefully give it Monolift Soft or Intelligent Systems to make Pokemon from their style

I prefer Nintendo to fully buy Game Freak and fully control the Pokémon Company and Pokémon franchise....
I want Game Freak to keep taking care of the franchise, don't want other dev to take it and mix it with its own style or something.

 

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Found this over on Ken Sugimori's Twitter:

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Not sure what game/app it is, but this is Lucario/Basketball levels of weird.

 

[Igzex]

Well now I know how she got her weight down so much.

 

[U-Throw]

Found this over on Ken Sugimori's Twitter:

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Not sure what game/app it is, but this is Lucario/Basketball levels of weird.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

This also the reason that Game Freak won't let the Pokémon amiibo have compatibility with Yarn Yoshi or Mario Kart 8. Also, if I remember correctly, Sakurai himself once said that Game Freak was difficult to work with. This policy doesn't make any sense to me, and I wish they wouldn't enforce it, but what can you do?

Welp, there goes my dream of a Mewtwo Yoshi in Woolly World.

 

[SleuthMechanism]

That could be pretty interesting. Monolith or Intelligent Systems could certainly do some cool stuff with Pokémon. I could see things like new types, more complex moves and items, more intricate stories, better balance, and perhaps a different art direction happening. I normally worry about change, but I could remain open to something like this.

That said, I don't really have anything against Game Freak except for their anal-retentive policy on their IPs, and I don't really think that's worth letting them go over.

Im normally wory about huge changes too but honestly i feel the only good direction pokemon can go in is by undergoing some big changes and starting to take some bloody risks for once. since hoestly the core games are just starting to get overly bloated by GF just adding more and more mons an formes ontop of unchanged old stuff instead of refining any of the old things and i don't really think the game can take any more. heck, it's almost on the verge of collapsing under the weight of gen v's expansion+massivr power creep and then gen vi's megas.I'd personally love to see a pokemon action rpg that shares the core mechanics of the main game overall but lets you directly cntrol the pokemon and adds more distinctiveness to the critters such as making pokemon with sleeker and more streamlined designs faster to control and thus easier to run around and evade attacks with.(thus creating some interesting pros and cons such as not all evolutions being a straight upgrade in every sense. for example, ivysaur looks pretty agile but it may not be very strong. venusaur on the other hand is a powerful beast but gained a significant ammount of bulk as well as slow and lumbering stubby legs for it's frame.. etc)

 

[MewtwoX825]

So, I just found out something interesting. Apparently, the reason none of the Pokémon have their Shiny palettes is because Game Freak/The Pokémon Company won't let Sakurai put them in Smash. It's about "ruining their intellectual property" or some weird, senseless thing like that. At least now we know why some of the Pokémon (Greninja, Charizard, and Mewtwo) have palette swaps that come painfully close to their Shiny colorations, but are just a tad off. I guess it's the closest thing Sakurai can get to the Pokémon's Shiny palettes, so he just has to settle for it.

This also the reason that Game Freak won't let the Pokémon amiibo have compatibility with Yarn Yoshi or Mario Kart 8. Also, if I remember correctly, Sakurai himself once said that Game Freak was difficult to work with. This policy doesn't make any sense to me, and I wish they wouldn't enforce it, but what can you do?

.....

....... So who else's isn't getting Pokemon Z/XY2 when it's announced

 

[MewtwoX825]

This is really disappointing. I don't get how Shiny palettes ruin the IP. I won't complain as long as cool pokemon are added. I want Zoroark dammit!

Cause unless you wasted hours... days.... weeks encountering/breeding the same damn pokemon with little to no results, you don't deserve to use a shiny pokemon, regardless what game it is.

I too would have preferred Zoroark. If only his **** ability never existed.

 

[U-Throw]

.....

....... So who else's isn't getting Pokemon Z/XY2 when it's announced

I... I don't understand the facepalm. Is it because I made a mistake, or is it because you're upset at Game Freak, or what? Please elaborate.

And how can you possibly hate a game that hasn't even been confirmed to exist yet?

Cause unless you wasted hours... days.... weeks encountering/breeding the same damn pokemon with little to no results, you don't deserve to use a shiny pokemon, regardless what game it is.

I too would have preferred Zoroark. If only his **** ability never existed.

What if I just happen to stumble across a Shiny Pokémon in the wild? I mean, they're just ultra-rare palette swaps. I don't see how I'm undeserving of an aesthetically different Pokémon just because I found it by chance instead of on purpose.

Personally, I think Zoroark's ability is pretty cool, but, then again, I'm a super-casual Pokémon player, so my opinion probably doesn't mean much there.

 

[MewtwoX825]

I... I don't understand the facepalm. Is it because I made a mistake, or is it because you're upset at Game Freak, or what? Please elaborate.

And how can you possibly hate a game that hasn't even been confirmed to exist yet?

What if I just happen to stumble across a Shiny Pokémon in the wild? I mean, they're just ultra-rare palette swaps. I don't see how I'm undeserving of an aesthetically different Pokémon just because I found it by chance instead of on purpose.

Personally, I think Zoroark's ability is pretty cool, but, then again, I'm a super-casual Pokémon player, so my opinion probably doesn't mean much there.

The Gif was for GF not letting Sakurai put shiny alts in this game not you, and the whole post was a sarcastic joke.

Funny story I actually encountered a random Red Garydos in Leafgreen when I was a kid in an area like the Lake of rage and I thought it was just apart of the game...

Years later I found out it wasn't....

 

[U-Throw]

The Gif was for GF not letting Sakurai put shiny alts in this game not you, and the whole post was a sarcastic joke.

Funny story I actually encountered a random Red Garydos in Leafgreen when I was a kid in an area like the Lake of rage and I thought it was just apart of the game...

Years later I found out it wasn't....

Oh, OK. I have a tendency to misinterpret things on the Internet. My apologies. Thank you for clearing that up!

Ouchie! That must be painful to remember. I remember when I thought every character in Smash 64 was created just for Smash, even characters like Mario and Luigi. I was not the brightest child.

 

[LoveGame]

So, I just found out something interesting. Apparently, the reason none of the Pokémon have their Shiny palettes is because Game Freak/The Pokémon Company won't let Sakurai put them in Smash. It's about "ruining their intellectual property" or some weird, senseless thing like that. At least now we know why some of the Pokémon (Greninja, Charizard, and Mewtwo) have palette swaps that come painfully close to their Shiny colorations, but are just a tad off. I guess it's the closest thing Sakurai can get to the Pokémon's Shiny palettes, so he just has to settle for it.

This also the reason that Game Freak won't let the Pokémon amiibo have compatibility with Yarn Yoshi or Mario Kart 8. Also, if I remember correctly, Sakurai himself once said that Game Freak was difficult to work with. This policy doesn't make any sense to me, and I wish they wouldn't enforce it, but what can you do?

But the Melee one for Mewtwo was on point aside from the eyes

which were all the same anyway

 

[Igzex]

Shiny Mewtwo should be the pink color now. I'd soft reset like a crazy person to get a Pink Mewtwo.

 

[Notshane]

--Takamaru, despite his status as an Assist Trophy, is being considered as DLC after Nintendo saw the West's reaction to him.

Out of all of what you said in this post, I believe this to be the most factual information.

Just recently, Takamaru has been receiving a lot of praise and I believe a LOT of people anticipated he would be the replacement as the 8-bit representative in place of the Ice Climbers. However, he was in a long battle fought with Duck Hunt and lost. He became the assist trophy instead. And now I dislike Duck Hunt because of that. Given, his moveset is a mishmash of random NES games well Takamaru has a samurai sword, ninja tools and magic, I believe.

However, I can see his return being epic, given how much attention to The Mysterious Murasame Castle that Sm4sh has given. Likewise, Nintendo Land had that mini-game and a few other cameos have been thrown in as well in other Nintendo games. This guy just has too much to not be playable.

I doubt some of the other information, especially Waluigi. No thanks to Nintendo not liking him that much. But, Takamaru I can see being legit. I bet they are working on him as we speak. I say this with confidence, given the recent surprises that Nintendo has thrown at us lately. And, again, a lot of buildup was for him being playable. He even got his game localized! Only on 3DS, for some reason, but still. His game has just garnered up so much attention these past few years.

 

[DrRiceBoy]

Shiny Mewtwo should be the pink color now. I'd soft reset like a crazy person to get a Pink Mewtwo.

Best shiny Mewtwo will always be green. Because green is the best.

 

[Metallinatus]

I doubt some of the other information, especially Waluigi. No thanks to Nintendo not liking him that much. But, Takamaru I can see being legit. I bet they are working on him as we speak. I say this with confidence, given the recent surprises that Nintendo has thrown at us lately.

Given the recent surprises that Nintendo has thrown at us lately, I can expect a Federation Marine from Metroid to pop out as DLC soon

 

[Igzex]

The only federation marine I want is Anthony from Other M. I can already imagine him in action.
*Breaks a smash ball*
"Let me teach you a lesson about subtlety!"

*Presses down on the d-pad*
"Come over here princess!"

 

[LRodC]

So it's been a few months.

What's everyone's general consensus on Sm4sh Mewtwo? I've heard everything from him being really high risk/high reward to the worst character in the game. One complaint I hear is that he dies too early, but I mean, come on. It's Smash 4. No one dies early

My consensus on Mewtwo is that he's not terrible, but he has a lot of problems and they compound to make him lower than average compared to the cast. This does not include weight for me. His hitboxes on many attacks need work, his teleport needs work (it bounces off walls sometimes and kills you, and it needs an invincibility buff) and his mobility and power in my opinion aren't quite enough to offset his light weight (which I'm actually okay with). He lacks any sort of good out of shield options as well and his defenses are utterly terrible, especially when dealing with pressure from fast characters. His grab could also use a range or speed buff. No reason why it has such low range.

However, he has a nice off stage and aerial game, one of the best projectiles in the game in Shadow Ball, an excellent close up punish in Disable and ranged punish in Shadow Ball, good tilts (especially down tilt), and Confusion is an excellent tool for recovery and combating projectile users.

Overall, he's got potential and he's certainly not the worst in the game, but he needs a lot of issues to be fixed first before he becomes a viable tournament contender in my opinion. This is why members of the board are coming together to make his issues well known and brainstorming different ideas on buffs that would help him out.

 

[MYU2]

Hey guys! How has summer been for you all?

Anyway this might be late considering that Brawl came out 8 years ago I came up with a theory on why Mewtwo was cut.

There were originally four Pokéreps:
- Pikachu
- Pokémon Trainer
- Plusle & Minun
- Mewtwo
(I will get to Jigglypuff later)

Pikachu and Mewtwo return from Melee. Pokémon Trainer is added to represent the remakes of Gen. 1 which came out a year before. Plusle & Minun were added to represent the recent generation (Gen. 3), they were chosen to replace Pichu and promote the duo mechanic. And if i recall correctly development began sometime in 2005 then that supports Plusle & Minun's case. Each character got work started on them. Some might think "why don't Plusle & Minun have their own seperate files?", one possibility is that the cheering Pokémon got a placeholder file called "PRA_MAI" (the first three letters of their first names). They would become seperated once they reached further development.

Then came along Gen. 4 (A.K.A. Lucario). Pikachu, Pokémon Trainer and Mewtwo had been worked on with P&M being the exception. Sakurai replaced P&M (not Mewtwo) with Lucario for two reasons; he was more unique than what fans might see as Pikachu clones and Gen. 3 would be irrelevant by the time the game comes out. Their files were left in by accident.

So by now we should have these four:
- Pikachu
- Poké Trainer
- Mewtwo
- Lucario

Pikachu & Poké Trainer were finished. Mewtwo only had a victory theme, fanfare and possibly a prototype model and priority went into Lucario. Basically Mewtwo was held back. Lucario dev time + the labor extensive SSE + Sakurai thinking both would be similar somehow and his unpopularity from Melee cut it from the game. This is where Jigglypuff comes in. Jigglypuff at the beginning was cut with Wolf, Toon Link & Toon Zelda before being brought back very late (except Toon Zelda) to beef up the roster + plus she was much easier to develop than Mewtwo.

This left the Pokémon lineup as we know:
- Pikachu
- Pokémon Trainer
- Lucario
- Jigglypuff

So in conclusion.
• Plusle & Minun were replaced by Lucario.
• Jigglypuff was brought back late into development and filled in Mewtwo's slot.

If there is anything wrong with my theory please correct my errors. Thanks!

 

[Igzex]

My theory is they ran short on time for characters and after playtesting all-star mode they knew which fraction of the roster is the easiest to make sacrifices with. Makes perfect sense in one sentence

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I see a lot of Game Freak hating in the posts above and I just want to point out that Sakurai has stated that Game Freak is very supportive of almost everything he does. The Pokemon Company? Not so much. So, blame The Pokemon Company. Not Game Freak.

 

[Metallinatus]

Hey guys! How has summer been for you all?

Anyway this might be late considering that Brawl came out 8 years ago I came up with a theory on why Mewtwo was cut.

There were originally four Pokéreps:
- Pikachu
- Pokémon Trainer
- Plusle & Minun
- Mewtwo
(I will get to Jigglypuff later)

Pikachu and Mewtwo return from Melee. Pokémon Trainer is added to represent the remakes of Gen. 1 which came out a year before. Plusle & Minun were added to represent the recent generation (Gen. 3), they were chosen to replace Pichu and promote the duo mechanic. And if i recall correctly development began sometime in 2005 then that supports Plusle & Minun's case. Each character got work started on them. Some might think "why don't Plusle & Minun have their own seperate files?", one possibility is that the cheering Pokémon got a placeholder file called "PRA_MAI" (the first three letters of their first names). They would become seperated once they reached further development.

Then came along Gen. 4 (A.K.A. Lucario). Pikachu, Pokémon Trainer and Mewtwo had been worked on with P&M being the exception. Sakurai replaced P&M (not Mewtwo) with Lucario for two reasons; he was more unique than what fans might see as Pikachu clones and Gen. 3 would be irrelevant by the time the game comes out. Their files were left in by accident.

So by now we should have these four:
- Pikachu
- Poké Trainer
- Mewtwo
- Lucario

Pikachu & Poké Trainer were finished. Mewtwo only had a victory theme, fanfare and possibly a prototype model and priority went into Lucario. Basically Mewtwo was held back. Lucario dev time + the labor extensive SSE + Sakurai thinking both would be similar somehow and his unpopularity from Melee cut it from the game. This is where Jigglypuff comes in. Jigglypuff at the beginning was cut with Wolf, Toon Link & Toon Zelda before being brought back very late (except Toon Zelda) to beef up the roster + plus she was much easier to develop than Mewtwo.

This left the Pokémon lineup as we know:
- Pikachu
- Pokémon Trainer
- Lucario
- Jigglypuff

So in conclusion.
• Plusle & Minun were replaced by Lucario.
• Jigglypuff was brought back late into development and filled in Mewtwo's slot.

If there is anything wrong with my theory please correct my errors. Thanks!

I am dead sure Jigglypuff was planned from the beginning.
The 12 originals won't ever, EVER be cut from a Smash game....

 

[LoveGame]

My consensus on Mewtwo is that he's not terrible, but he has a lot of problems and they compound to make him lower than average compared to the cast. This does not include weight for me. His hitboxes on many attacks need work, his teleport needs work (it bounces off walls sometimes and kills you, and it needs an invincibility buff) and his mobility and power in my opinion aren't quite enough to offset his light weight (which I'm actually okay with). He lacks any sort of good out of shield options as well and his defenses are utterly terrible, especially when dealing with pressure from fast characters. His grab could also use a range or speed buff. No reason why it has such low range.

However, he has a nice off stage and aerial game, one of the best projectiles in the game in Shadow Ball, an excellent close up punish in Disable and ranged punish in Shadow Ball, good tilts (especially down tilt), and Confusion is an excellent tool for recovery and combating projectile users.

Overall, he's got potential and he's certainly not the worst in the game, but he needs a lot of issues to be fixed first before he becomes a viable tournament contender in my opinion. This is why members of the board are coming together to make his issues well known and brainstorming different ideas on buffs that would help him out.

Just more reasons I wish Smash 4 was a more technical game. I feel like a lot of those issues would be fixed if the game just had more depth/tech

like don't get me wrong I still enjoy it but that's been bothering me in recent months

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Cause unless you wasted hours... days.... weeks encountering/breeding the same damn pokemon with little to no results, you don't deserve to use a shiny pokemon, regardless what game it is.

I too would have preferred Zoroark. If only his **** ability never existed.

If you find a shiny without a cheating device, you get to use t, a friend of mine usually gets a shiny out of an egg within 20 minutes without a cheating device, she even got a shiny 6IV Kyogre and Mewtwo on wonder trade! I cann her Lady Luck.

Er...Illusion's a great ability for mind games, Zoroark does that pretty well as a mixed attacker with a pretty good movepull

 

[Chiroz]

I am dead sure Jigglypuff was planned from the beginning.
The 12 originals won't ever, EVER be cut from a Smash game....

While his theory is almost assuredly completely wrong, Jiggz was almost cut from Brawl.

She was the very last character added in, and it is theorized Mewtwo was going to be next in the list since he already had files in the disc (like sound clips that were not ported from Brawl).



Evidence:

All character files in Brawl are ordered alphabetically except for 3 specific characters; Wolf, Toon Link and Jigglypuff.

Only the 3 characters mentioned above did not appear in the SSE while every single other char made at least an appearance.

The files of the 3 above mentioned characters were not fully done unlike every other char in the game.



Now, why do I say she was dead last? Well because out of the 3 previous chars she appeared at the very bottom in the file list.

It is safe to say that those 3 chars were barely added into the game, and some people even theorize that if it weren't for Sonic (who delayed the game 3-4 months) then we might not have gotten any of those 3 chars in Brawl (while other people theorize that Sonic actually took away time to develop other chars like Mewtwo).

 

[C3CC]

So, absolutely NO ONE used Mewtwo at EVO? =/

 

[DrRiceBoy]

So, absolutely NO ONE used Mewtwo at EVO? =/

Pretty sure that's the case.