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Only characters I would hate to be added are Steve and another FE character. I'm fine with Geno, Sora, Erdrick, Banjo, even meme picks like Sans but please God not mother****ing steve.
You're taking specific negative examples and painting the entire thread with them. You're shoving general actions in my and many others' faces and implying that we also do them all the time. I can't work with that mindset. I've historically acknowledged that I believed Sora has a decent chance when Vergeben was still unsure. Maybe I came off blunter or more insensitive than I could have, especially in the Geno thread. However, you're basing your intents off of negative experience that do not correlate with this context or the people you are talking to. If this is where you're coming from, I'm not a part of it because it wont lead anywhere productive.
Watch this potentially end up aging as horribly as "Too big for Smash".
Tsk. If it were that easy Phoenix Wright would be considered likely by the masses.
I don't believe Tansut ever said Erdrick was "coming soon". In fact, from what I recall, he said DQ "wasn't terribly far along" and not to expect a reveal soon. The date he made that post was apparently Dec 31, 2018.
I definitely think some of those Steve leaks are without merit. There are also leaks in favor of Banjo. I think the Banjo thread covered this with that IndieGamerChick, for example. It's a case of wait and see, but Banjo can still make it if Erdrick does. It's a purely separate case because guessing Erdrick is virtually a trend now while Banjo stills has a lot of time to build info on.
The horror
I'm not saying specifically you, but since Erdrick has been the "hot topic" I have seen the specific thing I said in the post more often than not, which is why it astounds me why people would act so shocking why people react the way they did when people act like everything is a big point when it comes to Erdrick but not to "character x". Its awesome for Erdrick supporters if he gets in but you get the drill...
Heh, I see your sarcasm there.
Yeah we are still trying to decide how credible she is. But it did give us some hope again.
It's sort of sarcastic concern because a lot of my posts, especially those supporting Vergeben, are going to make spoiled milk look fresh out of cow utters if Erdrick doesn't make it in.
As much as I feel for this mindset, I'm really tired discussing it to continue. It happens and it's sometimes annoying. It's not the universal rule and it shouldn't apply here with different people. That's all I'll say about it right now.
There is only few people here who act like that, you're acting paranoid with the whole issue. Let people think what they want, wrong or not. Thats the only thing left for me to say.
Take her with caution. A lot of the stuff she was saying sounded like BS (especially the Jill stuff), especially since the only thing backing her claims is a tweet without any evidence from another dude.
I have no problem letting people believe what they believe. That's is not, and has never been the issue. If I would, I would have been discussing movies online for as long as I have (which prior my time here way back). The issue is what I wrote in the comment I just wrote which I personally think you are underestimating.
I think it's more because she's making a indie game compilation of Xbox live games for the switch. So it seems in the realms of possibility she may be talkin to Nintendo or Microsoft employees.
And just in that realm of possibility, a lot of her claims seem to be related to a game where few people know the DLC when she is just making an indie game compilation. Including a franchise from a company different to Nintendo and Microsoft.
Well it might line up with Microsoft setting the framework to allow games to get access to Xbox live services on the switch. So there would be working with Microsoft to get that working. And then with Nintendo to get it all working. IF they are going that route that is . Since they are going to be Xbox live indie games I'm sure they're going to want to have achievements and friends and stuff like that.
Hey, Erdrick is not my most favorable pick and all, but as a Geno fan, I'd be very happy for you and his other fans if he gets in. It's a rough blow, one I've been preparing for, but it'd be selfish of me and any other Geno fan to say Erdrick doesn't deserve to be in Smash and his fans don't deserve this. DQ is a huge series with an incredible legacy. I'll always stand by the fact that it should have been in Smash a long time ago.
This is how I mostly feel these days, aside from Nintendo taking full control of the characters back then. It's important to remember that Nintendo took most of the money from SMRPG's development back in the day. Nintendo really didn't seem to respect other developers so much before Satoru Iwata took over and mended relationships with them starting with the GameCube era. So with that lens in mind I'm glad Square was able to secure a large part of the game's appeal all to themselves, away from Nintendo's at-the-time thankless attitude.
MissingGlitch
helloiamhere
since you mentioned Steve earlier after what happened to verge I’m starting to get the feeling that Steve isn’t inMy thoughts 100%. Super Mario RPG is what got me so into RPGs in the first place, and a new one would make me super happy.
So you're saying that Nintendo's strong relationship with Square Enix in regards to Dragon Quest is an assumption? Are you seriously going to ignore the multiple published titles and thousands, if not millions in advertising Nintendo has spent solely on Dragon Quest and call it an assumption?
That's all there is to it. My beliefs change as the evidence presents itself. And right now the evidence points to Erdrick.David Hume said:
At the risk of being a party pooper, it's unlikely anything is going to happen with the SMRPG cast. Nintendo doesn't even use their own characters half the time; K. Rool fans had to get on their hands and knees to beg for him, the main villain of one of Nintendo's biggest franchises, to say nothing of their purging of the Mario RPG characters they actually do own. What are the chances Nintendo wants to buy back characters from an RPG that sold moderately well? If Geno or a SMRPG character ever appears again, it will probably be through a licensing agreement with Square, much like Spider-Man in the MCU.
I feel the whole fan movement is the best way for Geno fans to bring Geno back. As, the Mario franchise (and Nintendo in general) can have the luxury of not needing to aquire characters. The only time I remember Nintendo getting the ownership of a franchise, was Fatal Frame and that was only partial ownership.
I don't think I have ever seen Verge or anyone confirm that both Erdrick and the Minecraft content came from the same source… someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.
Well, 50/50 maybe (? or at least 33%.. After all, call me skeptical but there's the possibility of the DM being edited in order to recover some credibility
That may or may not be true but I think based on speculation is that someone was watching him or his source so he got it wrong so this wouldn't hurt his source this all seems kinda silly in hindsight but it's just a theory too me at least
Yeah, but any of our theories doesn't change the fact that Vergeben did wrong this time, and that cost a lot of his credibility. I really don't expect Vergeben to say "This is what happened" and being 100% sincere about it but meh. Expect a long wait, maybe no news at all until Late April during Joker's Release.
Well that's just not who Verge is if anything his gonna move on back to telling us about what he's heard and people will disregard him or listen to him that's how it always is
On the other hand, if he went all in, it means he legit believed it.
And that's why we have an SMT rep instead of a Persona rep, oh wait.
You may have to wait on that. Because so far as of now, at least on Smash Gamefaqs, he's done the same thing he always did when getting something massively wrong before his base roster Smash Ultimate days. Oh, and especially what he did when screwing the pooch on Soul Caliber 6. Turned tail and ran without a word from the Smash Gamefaqs section. For reference, even after getting the first DLC character wrong, he had some defensive words to back track his way out of that mess. Not so much this time with his credibility being torpedoed back to how it used to be recognized as.
And the reason to hope for that is?
Yeah, I don't see Nintendo gaining full ownership of them either. The price to do so would probably outweigh the benefits. That being said, my hopes are still there for Square and Nintendo to come to some kind of agreement, especially with all the SMRPG references being dropped in (and now out of) Smash. If we stop fighting, that'll be it for us, so the odds against us will just have to make us stronger.
As is said before, Nintendo might be getting better at baiting people.
Maybe you should ask
ZenythSmash
for that. Dunno if he can tell you much.Unless they tell us what are the deciding factors for each character, I think we will see that the DLC characters are decided by a different number of factors. The factors that decided Joker are not necessarily the same for each character afterwards.
That's another good point. Star Fox Grand Prix being some 4-D chess hoax across the industry does show that Nintendo are well capable of baiting something just as commonly said and for as long.
"Perfectly balanced, as all things should be."