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Smash Lord
My Perish Songing Mismagius says up yours.
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I'm still not sure why Lucario would bother to Swords Dance against Sonic. Sonic only has average defense, and is most likely a normal type. Since Lucario excels at close combat, it should easily be able to foil the focus punch and possibly land himself a KO in the process.
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
Because the obvious move would be to switch out Sonic for a different pokemon, and the Lucario, knowing this, would take the advantage to Swords Dance.
But knowing that, the Sonic will Focus Punch.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
No, because Sonic has awesome speed and Double Kick.
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Also, Perish song mismagius doen't really play a role. If it did, then I'd switch in Tyranitar to respond. My Tyranitar has a Lum berry, so you wouldn't be able to get a status condition on it, not to mention the 1.5X special defence boost sandstorm gives it, not to mention that it makes lucario-stalling practical.
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
You said Shuckle was your last pokemon.
I mean, against Tyranitar, I'll bring in my Brightpowder Garchomp or my Choice Scarfing Medicham.
Lucario ***** everything in close combat anything, so it doesn't matter what you switch to. Lucario's gonna win. :3
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
My Mismagius (who is immune to Close Combat) says otherwise.
Lucario can punch ghosts with the power of Furry.
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
Sorry, but only Kangaskhan and Miltank have the ability to hit Ghost types with fighting and normal type moves.
Greenstreet
Smash Champion
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This is a dumb topic lol.
Blackbelt
Smash Lord
Well techinically, general chat threads are supposed to be stupid, and we're the only board that gets it right.
Correction: Kangaskhan, Miltank, and Lucario.
If I had an official stamp of win, I'd use it right now.
Steak with chocolate, mm-mmm.
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By the way, I have Brawl+.
Sonic + Wavedash + L-Cancel + Hitstun = Sex.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
makes forward air SOOOOOOOOO sex
shffl'd uair -> utilt anyone?
Also, with the hitstun, it's entirely possible to uthrow to bair at 0%.
Too good. If I had recording material, I'd mess around and upload some matches.
Greenstreet
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Do it. I'm curious to see it.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
the brawl + i was playing, kirk told me that it wouldnt play back right if we tried to record, otherwise we would have recorded maddd matches
Greenstreet
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So I introduced another bloke to Sonic today. Well more we usually play each other, and this time, as a strategy to beat my Sonic, he is tryin to pick him up to understand him better.
And what was his first q?
Whats the difference between down b and side b lol?
Really gr8 bloke tho!
And what was his first q?
Whats the difference between down b and side b lol?
Really gr8 bloke tho!
SonicX580
Smash Lord
Hey guys anything happen while I was away? aside from flaming a n00b or a troll and good job of being a debater Greensteet.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Well, we decided chocolate is better than steak and Sonic owns Pit.
Also, using the
smiley makes you as cool and smart and popular as Boxob.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
Chocolate? how long have I've been out? well I'am out of here I got work to do later.Well, we decided chocolate is better than steak and Sonic owns Pit.
Also, using the
Tulat
Smash Cadet
have you guys been brawling n00bs... pit owns sonic in a 55 - 45 pits favor
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
No, we haven't random***. Taking your info just from Pit matchup charts will make you look like even more of a ******. Back your 55-45 up with something. BTW it was a joke, chocolate could never be better than steak.
Tulat
Smash Cadet
isint holy supposed to be the best sonic... im not that good and i got him to 2 stocks and good % now tell me that pit dont beat sonic, holy is pro
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
Well I haven't heard of him, so he wasn't here last 3 months, which means it's old Sonic *facepalmed*
btw it's not evidence of 55:45. It'd just mean your Pit playstyle was better than his Sonic playstyle.
btw it's not evidence of 55:45. It'd just mean your Pit playstyle was better than his Sonic playstyle.
Tulat
Smash Cadet
your a noob to not know holy..... cause holy is on aib (all is brawl)
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
Smash n00b, no u. I'm not on AiB, I'm not gonna bother fighting people in America. But I do agree on 55:45. However that's not hard to get against Sonic. Ah well, paper means nothing against Sonic.
Tulat
Smash Cadet
im not a noob its just i registerd recently and havint posted much.. and ok
Chis
Finally a legend
Boxob gave up the 'Only I can use Haunter' meme. I didn't really care for it anyways.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
Nice
Chis
Finally a legend
Everyone should do this.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Just as a note to anyone who knows me:
EDIT: did Tenki and Tulat just pwn you guys?
When I type something like that while hating you all, not even I know how much is serious and how much is a joke. So Y so srs?Well, we decided chocolate is better than steak and Sonic owns Pit.
Also, using the
EDIT: did Tenki and Tulat just pwn you guys?
Chis
Finally a legend
Tulat, this isn't the place to discuss match ups. Just wait for Pit's turn in the match up thread.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
When discussing matchups, do you talk mostly about what specific attributes are and aren't in Sonic's favor, or do you also include Sonic's unpredictability as a factor? Technically, Sonic's matchups are not based on the ease/difficulty with which sonic will win, but the consistancy at which he can win when played at super-high levels - in other words, all Sonic's matchups are really tough, but even in a tough matchup Sonic may have a strong advantage when the player remains very unpredictable and baits and punishes properly.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
weve come to the conclusion that baiting and punishing (while it is the basis of sonics game) cant be qualified on paper, and as such, cannot be used in a matchup discussion because it is more representative of the players skill and not as much on sonic as a character.
because of this, all of our matchups seems to be like, 5-15 points lower than they really are...
Correct, but when we're discussing how to actually beat stuff, don't hesitate to bring them up lol.
I know that bringing it up won't change the matchup numbers, but I've been trying to sneak in some of that in recent matchup discussions by bringing up 'punishability' of moves. Because opponents WILL miss. Sure, we can discard it, but it doesn't help us if we never discuss it! lol
like MK shuttle loop - shield the rise, then jump an aerial into it.
or MK high F-air - run under and jump/double jump into it with an aerial: attack it from below (it has good horizontal but poor vertical range)
or something like MK tornado - shield it, release shield AS SOON as MK pulls away, then chase / grab (if he's doing a SH height tornado) or dash attack, if you screwed up the timing too much to grab or if he's too low.
XD
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Even if this type of thing can't be qualified on paper easily, it obviously plays a role in the matchup. Shouldn't unpredictability and dodge-and-punish maneuvers, even if it is a part of the player's skill, play a role in the matchup because Sonic is better at it than most other characters?
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