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[Wunderwaft]

It's times like these where I'm glad Wario isn't used very much since he won't be a prime target for nerfs. Also Bayonetta finally got buffed, about damn time I say. I'll take her for a stroll the next time I go to my local.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Goodness were the Pichu nerfs really necessary?

I know people can be good with him, but I found him hard to use well. I guess I just suck.

Now, what do they mean by Ice Climbers recovering midair jumps the same way as other fighters? I guess I failed to notice much of a difference when playing for some reason, and I didn't realize you could desync Nana while grabbing, heh. I just tried desyncing by doing different moves and such quickly, but couldn't keep it going.

F-tilt was infamously stupid and totally deserved a slight nerf.

Not sure the lightest character in the game really needs self-harm nerfs but eh, I doubt he'll fall past high tier over this. If anything I'm surprised Lightning Loops have been in the game this long. At this point I think those loops are here to stay.

when only gets worthless buffs
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Oi, nothing wrong with a little QoL fixes here and there.

 

[Will]

sakurai in his chair about to put out the 3.1 update like

 

[Iridium]

I see they wanted to make sure Fire Wolf can't hit you from a mile away on the ledge anymore.

 

[Deleted member]

make way for INKY GAAAAAAAANG

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

COME ONNNNNNNN DATAMINE WITH NOTHING IN IT.

I just find the wait entertaining, especially when something comes out of it and it sends fans into a frenzy.

I’m glad they seem to look more for ways to buff characters rather than making everyone equally bad.

 

[Will]

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make way for INKY GAAAAAAAANG

WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'MULTIPLE TIMES'

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I'm glad that they reverted it too but I was expecting some brand new buffs instead of just reverting a nerf from the last patch. Considering that almost no one uses her competitively she is in desperate need of buffs.

I agree something feel like it's missing from Isabelle's toolkit, what do you think should be some fitting buffs for her?

 

[Deleted member]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'MULTIPLE TIMES'

It always had two hits, once rising in front of him and then again above him. You just never get to see that ever happen on a person, cause it's almost always better to forward or down smash in a situation where they're in front of you anyways.
But it DOES work for some dank hydrant tech.

 

[PLATINUM7]

We live in the timeline where Pichu, Melee's oft perceived joke character, is getting nerfed.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Really curious about this buff though.

Ivysaur - Neutral Special - Made it easier to hit multiple times.

I shouldn't have left my Switch at work. I wanna go experiment with this.

How did they make the multihit more reliable? Did they increase the hitstun at all? Is the move safe on landing now? Is it possible to combo with it now?
....Probably no to all of those, but I still want to see.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'MULTIPLE TIMES'

It's a two-hit move where a grounding hitbox props opponents up into the main one, kind of like Marth's up smash. The first one probably links into the second one more reliably now.

 

[Will]

It's a two-hit move

It always had two hits

made it sound like it did 5 or something

 

[Strong Badam]

Incineroar got very minor buffs

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ayyyy

Not the jibblies! Nooo

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

She's been widely considered one of the best characters in the game since launch so it's probably warranted. Though aside from the Ftilt and hurtbox nerfs it might not be that bad, depending on how much self-damage she takes now.

Pichu got his ass slapped pfff, Still love the baby tho

 

[Arcanir]

Here's the Pichu self-damage changes:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Will]

i think the only one who got buffed and nerfed at the same time was

's basic hadoken is now slower but the command input hadoken became faster
's shoryuken connects better but the knockback got nerfed so its not as easy to kill with

they also got some new confirms or easier timing with command combos

 

[TheMightyP]

Top Tiers: Get nerfed in almost every patch


Inkling and Wario

 

[Shroob]

So pretty much, get all the balance changes out of the way a week or so in advance so they can play 4.0 with no balance changes and all the new **** at the tournament.

 

[TheMightyP]

Here's the Pichu self-damage changes:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Yeah, those will DEFINITELY add up.

 

[PLATINUM7]

So pretty much, get all the balance changes out of the way a week or so in advance so they can play 4.0 with no balance changes and all the new **** at the tournament.

The tournament will be played entirely in Labo VR.

 

[Sari]

I agree something feel like it's missing from Isabelle's toolkit, what do you think should be some fitting buffs for her?

Off of the top of my head:

• Give her more killing options since she has a very tough time KO'ing opponents. Maybe they could give f-tilt more knockback as well as her Lloyd trap.
• Increase the range on her side smash. It's one of her only good killing moves but its range is really bad.
• Give up-smash more range and knockback. I think she may actually have one of the worst up-smashes in the game especially considering that the range is almost the same as her side smash.
• Make Lloyd trap more reliable when an opponent steps on it. Characters like Pichu can often run over it like its not even there.

 

[Z25]

Everyone after those pichu nerds:

 

[Will]

PICHU IS GONE!

 

[PLATINUM7]

Sakurai in his book: Online win rates are very close, so there might no be any point in changing characters further.
Sakurai in 3.1.0:

Everyone after those pichu nerds:
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[Ramen Tengoku]

i was just cursed with this by Ramen Tengoku and now i'm going to curse you people with it

So yeah... I found that thing weeks ago. I wanted to post it here for the longest time, yet never got around to doing it...

Thanks for doing the honors

Anyways, back to the shadows I go...

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

Off of the top of my head:

• Give her more killing options since she has a very tough time KO'ing opponents. Maybe they could give f-tilt more knockback as well as her Lloyd trap.
• Increase the range on her side smash. It's one of her only good killing moves but its range is really bad.
• Give up-smash more range and knockback. I think she may actually have one of the worst up-smashes in the game especially considering that the range is almost the same as her side smash.
• Make Lloyd trap more reliable when an opponent steps on it. Characters like Pichu can often run over it like its not even there.

Yeah those make sense, I hardly ever even try to use her smash attacks due to their abysmal range. I wish they either made the LLoyd trap more reliable or at least gave it increased health, I usually try to set up the enemy and launch the trap myself, but it's hard to pull off when the trap can be killed so easily.

 

[Noipoi]

wait a gosh dang

they removed the most liked users section

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

the fact Villagers tree has yet to be touched tells me that sakurai and I have the same train of thought, The tree is just fine

 

[PLATINUM7]

wait a gosh dang

they removed the most liked users section

Noipoi's speed at observation also got nerfed it seems.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

ARENAS ARE BACK MY DUDES.

ID:18LCP
Password: 42069
Title: To Yeet Or Not to Yeet

(Warning: 3 stock, 6 mins. 2 stock goes quick, but i’m looking for more “tourney” oriented because wynaut?)

 

[Noipoi]

Noipoi's speed at observation also got nerfed it seems.

Implying my powers of perception haven't been nerfed since birth

I have miraculously managed to be smart and stupid at the same time.

 

[Deleted member]

COME ONNNNNNNN DATAMINE WITH NOTHING IN IT.

I just find the wait entertaining, especially when something comes out of it and it sends fans into a frenzy.

I’m glad they seem to look more for ways to buff characters rather than making everyone equally bad.

I'm honestly happy nothing crucial is being revealed. Otherwise, E3 hype would be spoiled too quickly. Honestly, I'm debating whether to stay away for ten days.

 

[BZocky]

the future of virtual reality...

 

[Deleted member]

ARENAS ARE BACK MY DUDES.

ID:18LCP
Password: 42069
Title: To Yeet Or Not to Yeet

(Warning: 3 stock, 6 mins. 2 stock goes quick, but i’m looking for more “tourney” oriented because wynaut?)

I wanna join but mines updating please don’t let it be full

 

[Deleted member]

wait a gosh dang

they removed the most liked users section

Correct. Now Cutie Gwen is still the most liked user

*dab*

 

[CannonStreak]

So, is there virtual reality Labo stuff included in the update?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I wanna join but mines updating please don’t let it be full

It’s only me and King Sonnn DeDeDoo . You should be fine!

 

[Noipoi]

the future of virtual reality...

the future looks bright

 

[Deleted member]

It’s only me and King Sonnn DeDeDoo . You should be fine!

I am here!

 

[Astroking112]

To try and unwind, I might look into Fullmetal Alchemist, since I haven't watched that series yet. Does anyone know if Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is a standalone series? Or do I need to watch the original one to know what's going on? (I know the original anime went off in a different direction from the source manga)

Watch the 2003 version first. It handles the opening a lot better and is still a great series in its own right. Brotherhood rushes through the beginning 25 episodes of the original in about 10, but when they separate it gets fantastic as well, and it's even more enjoyable after having a close tie to the characters established in the original.

It always had two hits, once rising in front of him and then again above him. You just never get to see that ever happen on a person, cause it's almost always better to forward or down smash in a situation where they're in front of you anyways.
But it DOES work for some dank hydrant tech.

The use for launching Hydrant really excites me. I've struggled to consistently launch it with Up-Smash in a match before, so hopefully this helps.