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[StormC]

I would assune that the reason why shows are backing away from darker tones is that they currently carry a negative connotation. I mean, companies tried WAY too hard to nake everything darker and edgy, and 1up each other with edgyness that people just had enough of it because it became too much to the point where it wasn't enjoyable. Sonic, Loony Tunes, and the more (can't think of other examples) fell into that trap.

Granted, story driven cartoons are making a comeback, but they're more lighthearted if anything.

It just depends how you frame it. ATLA and TLOK certainly dealt with their fair share of darker subject material (ATLA's plot thrust being, uh, genocide), but they presented themselves as colorful fun adventure cartoons. Same with Steven Universe.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Now THIS is lit, fam!

No I’m not sorry.



Ok maybe a little.

Now this is hot

 

[Iridium]

He 100% has an audience but I'd say it's outnumbered by the amount of people that dislike him.

Hero for example was a character the west didn't care about but Japan loved. Even that got some minor complaints.

Imagine putting in a character that the west (Including NA and EU in this) actively disliked but Japan loved. Wouldn't go over well at all.

I like Tingle as a character but for Smash there's so many better options.

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Unrelated but I picked up Mario Maker 2, send me your level codes people!

I just want Impa out of anybody from Zelda, but I'm just saying the hate can often be a bit too much, although his appeal to Japan more than the West is pretty understandable. Doubtful he's viewed as annoying very much over in Japan.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Batman Beyond aired on Saturday mornings like I said. I know 'cause I watched it. Justice League got away with a bit more because of the night slot.

I could have sworn Batman Beyond initially aired at 8pm. Might have been thinking of TAS but Beyond is significantly darker so goddamn

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I could have sworn Batman Beyond initially aired at 8pm. Might have been thinking of TAS but Beyond is significantly darker so goddamn

"TAS"? As in tool-assisted speedrun?

 

[StormC]

I could have sworn Batman Beyond initially aired at 8pm. Might have been thinking of TAS but Beyond is significantly darker so goddamn

Beyond did reruns on Toonami but the initial run was on Kids WB. Of course, the irony is Batman Beyond happened because the producers wanted a Batman show where the protagonist was a high schooler.

Justice League aired on Saturday nights on Cartoon Network and the writers said the producers basically didn't care what they put in as long as it wasn't over-the-top. Hence episodes like Flash hanging out at the playboy mansion.

 

[Will]

"TAS"? As in tool-assisted speedrun?

i honestly really got confused on those tv show acronyms because i knew about that epic SM64 TAS before i knew what a batman TAS was

"oh **** they TAS'd arkham aslyum?"

 

[Opossum]

The thing with Hell and Damn is that they were much more regularly considered swears in the past due to their religious connotations, equally blasphemous as "taking the Lord's name in vain" among those who are more strictly religious.

Over time, however, as younger people grew up, these became far less severe because as a whole, people were growing less religious here in the US compared to back then.

Especially nowadays where atheism, agnosticism, and, in general, apathy toward blasphemy is at an all time high here, many censors are less strict because there are fewer people who would be offended.

Children's programs nowadays still won't use either word, obviously, but saying hell or damn in public nowadays won't draw the ire of helicopter moms covering their kid's ears as often.

 

[Noipoi]

He 100% has an audience but I'd say it's outnumbered by the amount of people that dislike him.

Hero for example was a character the west didn't care about but Japan loved. Even that got some minor complaints.

Imagine putting in a character that the west (Including NA and EU in this) actively disliked but Japan loved. Wouldn't go over well at all.

I like Tingle as a character but for Smash there's so many better options.

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Unrelated but I picked up Mario Maker 2, send me your level codes people!

Tricky Prick Track

C06 CSM JQG

 

[Chandeelure]

Liek if u cri evrytiem.

pic.twitter.com/aLlfEXdEDB

— 🍎 Bandana Dee Brigade 🍎 (@BandanaDeeSSBU) July 1, 2019

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The thing with Hell and Damn is that they were much more regularly considered swears in the past due to their religious connotations, equally blasphemous as "taking the Lord's name in vain" among those who are more strictly religious.

Over time, however, as younger people grew up, these became far less severe because as a whole, people were growing less religious here in the US compared to back then.

Especially nowadays where atheism, agnosticism, and, in general, apathy toward blasphemy is at an all time high here, many censors are less strict because there are fewer people who would be offended.

Children's programs nowadays still won't use either word, obviously, but saying hell or damn in public nowadays won't draw the ire of helicopter moms covering their kid's ears as often.

I think the fact that a movie like Life of Brian could be banned in America back in the day is proof of how bad it used to be

 

[TheMightyP]

Now all this talk about darker cartoons makes me mad because now I'm reminded that Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated wwent away too fast, despite being a top 3 Scooby Doo show easy, and got replaced by...

Whatever the new show was supposed to be.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Now all this talk about darker cartoons makes me mad because now I'm reminded that Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated wwent away too fast, despite being a top 3 Scooby Doo show easy, and got replaced by...

Whatever the new show was supposed to be.

Didn't that show get like 50 episodes? Regardless I remember that it was the one Scooby Doo media that made Fred an interesting character

 

[Z25]

Now all this talk about darker cartoons makes me mad because now I'm reminded that Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated wwent away too fast, despite being a top 3 Scooby Doo show easy, and got replaced by...

Whatever the new show was supposed to be.

At least scooby doo and guess who looks like a fun entry more like the original series and the new scooby doo movies

 

[Deleted member]

Liek if u cri evrytiem.

Thanks for showing me the best video on the internet.

 

[Deleted member]

Haha remember that Justice League episode where Hawkgirl has to beat a friend of hers to death and as his life without a soul is constant unending agony and death is the only true freedom?
Oh those wacky cartoons.

 

[TheMightyP]

Didn't that show get like 50 episodes? Regardless I remember that it was the one Scooby Doo media that made Fred an interesting character

52, and it ended on a kinda cliffhanger where they set off for more mysteries due to their timeline being altered, and yet it wasn't a cliffhanger as it may directly lead to another series that we may or may not know about.

 

[Will]

Haha remember that Justice League episode where Hawkgirl has to beat a friend of hers to death and as his life without a soul is constant unending agony and death is the only true freedom?
Oh those wacky cartoons.

who cares about the cartoons

its all about them toys

 

[Deleted member]

52, and it ended on a kinda cliffhanger where they set off for more mysteries due to their timeline being altered, and yet it wasn't a cliffhanger as it may directly lead to another series that we may or may not know about.

Didn't the ending kinda tied in to the og cartoon in some way?

 

[Dyllybirdy]

So... this is cool.

We are thrilled to announce our collaboration with the amazing folks at @trigger_inc, who will be creating a brand-new opening animation for Shantae 5! We'll have more details soon; for now, here's a sneak peek at some production artwork! pic.twitter.com/KkTy0hxH0y

— WayForward (@WayForward) July 1, 2019

 

[TheMightyP]

Didn't the ending kinda tied in to the og cartoon in some way?

Not confirmed, but it it the most popular theory due to the laugh track at the very end.

 

[Noipoi]

So... this is cool.

Damn, I love Trigger’s stuff.

 

[Mythra]

So... this is cool.

Can't wait for the Senketsu DLC /s

 

[Deleted member]

So... this is cool.

Yes, This is what Shantae needed.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Holy **** you guys, get Bloodstained. I just beat the game with 100 percent map completion. I don't have much, if anything to complain about. And thos credits theme is so soothing, feels like the ultimate reward for 40 bucks. While I have the Switch version which can be pretty bad at times, I absolutely love it. ****, I think I found the undeniable GOTY for me.

All in all, if you have 40 bucks, go buy this masterpiece. I think it's 35 on Steam now too

I shall. As a media buff I like checking out new franchises.

 

[PeridotGX]

I made some new levels, I'd appriciate if someone played them

Yoshi's Desert Dessert - CGY-7XN-7YF

Raid on the Plant Armada - TW0-787-3HF

Potato_

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Oh we talking about classic 90s cartoons.

You guys obviously know my favorite. It involves a certain pair of beaver brothers.

Other runner-ups would also be CatDog, Street Sharks, Beast Wars and Godzilla: The Animated Series.

 

[MarioMeteor]

So today I learned that Bernie Sanders has a Twitch channel.

Holy **** you guys, get Bloodstained. I just beat the game with 100 percent map completion. I don't have much, if anything to complain about. And thos credits theme is so soothing, feels like the ultimate reward for 40 bucks. While I have the Switch version which can be pretty bad at times, I absolutely love it. ****, I think I found the undeniable GOTY for me.

All in all, if you have 40 bucks, go buy this masterpiece. I think it's 35 on Steam now too

I’ve the map 96% completed, all I have to do is beat the final boss, but Bael is a *****. I wish game developers would get the idea that two bosses back to back with no save in between is annoying, not fun.

But other than that, the game is fantastic, though I’d expect nothing less from Igarashi. Definitely a steal for $40.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So today I learned that Bernie Sanders has a Twitch channel.

I’ve the map 96% completed, all I have to do is beat the final boss, but Bael is a *****. I wish game developers would get the idea that two bosses back to back with no save in between is annoying, not fun.

But other than that, the game is fantastic, though I’d expect nothing less from Igarashi. Definitely a steal for $40.

My dude do you not have healing items? Cause I had like 15 pizzas I didn't even need on me

 

[Knight Dude]

Honestly, I feel like Smash is also running out of 90s reps to put into Smash as well. Like, who's left? Geno?

And not gonna lie, I VASTLY prefer pulling newcomers from the 2000s and 2010s over reps from the 80s or 90s, unless they got cultural significance. Maybe that's a product of me being born in the 21st century, but yeah.

Outside of third parties? Yeah most of the cool 90's Nintendo characters are in. Unless Dixie and Samurai Goroh get their salty runback. I think BWD was in the original version of Kirby Super Star, so I guess he counts.

Problem is I feel most of the early 2000's characters that are in are pretty good or make sesne. So unless some miracle happens and Waluigi/Isaac rise from AT jail, I can't think of too many. I guess Chibi-Robo.

Yeah I goofed and read the post too fast, for some reason saw 80s/90s.

Also don't let Final Smashes prevent characters from getting in!

(Mega Man) X Gon' Give it to Ya! Or Protoman. Or ****ing Fiora, she'd be clean too.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Or ****ing Fiora, she'd be clean too.

Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well

Kumatora would be neat too

 

[MarioMeteor]

My dude do you not have healing items? Cause I had like 15 pizzas I didn't even need on me

I had nine Potions, five High Potions, and some food “my dude,” but it will only go so far when fighting two bosses that both have thousands upon thousands of HP.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Imagine if Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax. got on switch? Then people would REALLY be mad about an anime fighting game

 

[Knight Dude]

I think shows have gotten more open regarding talking about naughty words or sexual innuendos or whatnot, but I feel like things have taken a step back from darker/scarier media. Like, Batman Beyond was a Saturday morning cartoon... and that show was horrifying.

I feel like action shows for kids haven't been too hot for a while. Last one that was decent was Transformers Prime. I hope Marvel and DC turn around their TV departments, because that's also a major way to get people into their characters, not just multi-million dollar movies.

Batman Beyond aired on Saturday mornings like I said. I know 'cause I watched it. Justice League got away with a bit more because of the night slot.

Funnily enough, DBZ used to be a show that aired on the afternoons when I was younger, all the blood and bruises too. Though now things are a lot stricter so the characters no longer get as beat up. From what I heard, it's for international appeal.

 

[StormC]

Funnily enough, DBZ used to be a show that aired on the afternoons when I was younger, all the blood and bruises too. Though now things are a lot stricter so the characters no longer get as beat up. From what I heard, it's for international appeal.

The original run of Dragon Ball/DBZ/GT aired on Tuesday nights in Japan, which is considered a "family" slot. Generally speaking thought to be for 10 and up. Ever since the 90s though the family night slot essentially died (in large part because Evangelion aired then and it was hugely controversial), and now the vast majority of shonen airs on Sunday mornings, which is generally meant for 5-12. That's the main reason the new material is less violent.

Even when DBZ aired on Toonami though, while most of the blood and brutality was kept in, coughing up blood, explicit gore (impalement/etc.) and dismemberment (unless it was an inhuman character like Majin Buu) was generally censored.

 

[TheMightyP]

Outside of third parties? Yeah most of the cool 90's Nintendo characters are in. Unless Dixie and Samurai Goroh get their salty runback. I think BWD was in the original version of Kirby Super Star, so I guess he counts.

Problem is I feel most of the early 2000's characters that are in are pretty good or make sesne. So unless some miracle happens and Waluigi/Isaac rise from AT jail, I can't think of too many. I guess Chibi-Robo.

Then get some from the late 2000s-2010s lol. Get in Steve, get in Shovel Knight, Shantae, Springman, Rex, Elma, Octolings, Maxwell, whoever lol. Idc who, just get them in.

 

[Knight Dude]

Haha remember that Justice League episode where Hawkgirl has to beat a friend of hers to death and as his life without a soul is constant unending agony and death is the only true freedom?
Oh those wacky cartoons.

Remember when Mary Jane had a fake water clone, and she had the memories of the real one? Meaning Spider-Man didn't reunite with the real MJ? And then we just time skip to Spider-Man Unlimited, where the real MJ was there again with no explanation? And Spider-Man Unlimited ended on a cliffhanger on a Symbiote invasion?

Or that time Professor X had some incurable illness and they had to chuck him off to the Shi'ar planet? Or how Wolverine and the X-Men was about to start The Age of Apocalypse, riiiiight after they got a somewhat conclusive ending.

Man, Marvel was one some Real Cliffhanger Hours weren't they?

 

[Megadoomer]

Haha remember that Justice League episode where Hawkgirl has to beat a friend of hers to death and as his life without a soul is constant unending agony and death is the only true freedom?
Oh those wacky cartoons.

That reminds me - I really need to watch that show. I have the first two seasons on BluRay, but my BluRay player stopped working, so it's not as convenient to watch BluRays at the moment. (I can watch them on the PS3, but that's a bit of a hassle for a few reasons)

Also, on a vaguely related note, I miss Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I had nine Potions, five High Potions, and some food “my dude,” but it will only go so far when fighting two bosses that both have thousands upon thousands of HP.

I mean, maybe I'm just good or my love for food helped me a lot due to all the extra stat boosts but I beat them and the superbosses first try. Bael was a mere afterthought for me

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Then get some from the late 2000s-2010s lol. Get in Steve, get in Shovel Knight, Shantae, Springman, Rex, Elma, Octolings, Maxwell, whoever lol. Idc who, just get them in.

Shantae's actually been around since 2002, just to let ya know.