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[Wademan94]

I get what you mean but there are some video games that should be prioritizing the writing, like visual novels and graphic adventure games.

Those are exceptions because story is the foundation for those games.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I still counter with Nintendo developed series like:

• Fire Emblem
• Xenoblade
• Mario RPGs
• Golden Sun
• Earthbound

Even series like:

• Legend of Zelda
• Metroid Prime
• Kid Icarus
• Endless Ocean
• Pikmin
• Star Fox

Astral Chain JUST came out.

All had plots beyond “save the princess.” You’re taking issue with things like Mario/Animal Crossing that are gameplay before plot, and expanding that to some made-up Nintendo directive.

Don’t get me wrong, I really don’t care to have MK anywhere near smash or associated with Nintendo. But the idea Nintendo hates plots is just silly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Golden Sun and EarthBound are dead and the Mario RPGs haven’t given a toss about narrative since the Wii/DS era.

Legend of Zelda? Well Breath of the Wild had a terrible plot... so did Skyward Sword.... yeah no. Zelda does work here.

Star Fox? Kid Icarus? Pikmin? Does it look like those franchises are continuing? If those installments are so rare then how does that reflect positively on Nintendo’s attitude towards narrative. Endless Ocean and Astral Chain were t even made by the company. They just published and owned the rights to them. And Metroid Prime.... considering the metroid fandom hates it when Samus talks and the stories in the series that they praise all are really just lore and not an actual plot.... no. Metroid Prime doesn’t count either. Once Nintendo starts regularly putting out games with actual narrative and voiced characters and cutscenes, then you can say they care about story.

My concern is that planning to make the roster interesting after the game launches is like X-Men Origins Wolverine or Green Lantern, where it was a terrible movie, but they included a post-credits scene hinting that next time, they'd actually do the characters justice. (there are a ton of examples like that, but these were the first ones that came to mind)

Regardless of what they're planning, it's not going to come to fruition if people don't like the game enough to continue playing and supporting it.

That would mean more to me if the criticism beforehand was more then just “No X-Men no buy! Chun-Li and Dante have bad faces! De gwafix!” Like nobody even gave it a chance because of surface level stuff. They judged the book by its cover

A "good" story really isn't necessary.
Sometimes I just want to be wacky yahoo plumber man jumping on turtles and that's perfectly fine. I'm not playing mainline Mario games for the story, it's the intricate platforming mechanics that I'm in for. Rosalina's storybook in Galaxy was excellent, but it's on the side for a reason.

Like the first 3 Paper Marios and the first 3 M&L games all exist if you want "depth"

Except a good story heightens immersion. It gives reason and context to your actions. It helps the player get invested in the game and it’s world. Plus it allows them to except games with little overall changes if they’re part of a continuous narrative. Look at games like Uncharted. I imagine that the NSMB games would have gotten a lot less flak if they had a continuous narrative thread

Dunno if this would be considered a hot take or not

But every Mii costume that's from a series with no musical representation yet should always get one, especially if they're going to license the music for the trailer anyway :/

Music and Spirits. It still Afflek me that characters have costumes and no spirits.

It entirely depends on the medium. All you’re doing in a movie or film is watching it, so story is more of a priority there whereas a game is an experience you’re playing and controlling and as such it should prioritize its gameplay before its story. A good story does not save a bad game like it would for something like bad animation.

But a bad story or lack of story can take you out of the game. It makes it feel less like an experience and more like.. well... a game.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Gone down to the creek with my dogs. What have I been missing?

 

[Deleted member]

Dunno if this would be considered a hot take or not

But every Mii costume that's from a series with no musical representation yet should always get one, especially if they're going to license the music for the trailer anyway :/

Yeah, I wish we got some Fallout and Goemon music.

 

[zeldasmash]

If MvC does come back in the future, let's just hope they come back strong, complete with a strong starting roster, and heavy coat of stylization to help set it apart aesthetically a la MvC3. Maybe this time around they'll have a colorful, poppy psuedo-2D feel to it, who knows. In any case, we know that general looks and lack of a strong artstyle seriously hurt Infinite, amongst numerous other things.

It really is a shame that MvC:I ended up the way it did because gameplay-wise, it's amongst my favorite in the series and it's newcomers (Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Ultron, Sigma, Jedah and X) are excellent additions to the MvC roster. Even the alternate costumes look really good.

 

[Deleted member]

These new headphones are really wonderful.

The sound comes really well, they last very long and are confortable.

Now I can finally listen to japanese music in peace again!

 

[Metal Shop X]

Outside of Digimon, I still wonder to this day what inspired Jedah's costume in MvC:I.

Don't get me wrong, it's really cool, but I don't know if it's a original design in every way or based off something obscure.

 

[zeldasmash]

Let’s not forget the Capcom side of MvCI’s roster sucked too. No Clover Studio characters, removal of 3 iconic villains from UMvC3, only 2 of the 9 female characters in MvC3 made a return, only 2 Street Fighter characters, no Phoenix Wright, only 2 new characters on the base roster, and the only new series introduced to the roster is through the paid DLC character Monster Hunter.

Agreed. The Capcom roster was terrible. Despite the removal of the X-Men, the Marvel side was actually pretty decent. The Capcom roster was just straight up terrible with such glaring choices: Nemesis over Jill and Wesker? Firebrand? Spencer? Vergi's removal? Akuma gone? Phoenix Wright gone? and Capcom only having 17 characters with Marvel having 19? Jedah, X, Sigma and Monster Hunter were good additions and in my opinion should be mainstays, but everything else is just....baffling.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

So I just came off watching Re:Zero Episode 15. The Outside of Madness.
It still hits like a ton of bricks and this is my 5th time watching it. There is a reason why it is considered one of the best episodes in the medium. I still cry and get into near shock from that episode because of how bad that is.

I'm still shaking from watching it like holy ****. With Season 2 tomorrow I had to watch it.

My brother last night -"You shouldn't be crying at cartoons if you're an adult!"
Dude watch Re:Zero Episode 15, Violet Evergarden Episode 10 or at least 8 other examples east and west then come back to me. Cause it hits hard.

Someone get me something calming to watch. Or a wholesome picture.

 

[Speed Weed]

gasp

could it be time to shill my mahvel 4 roster

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Golden Sun and EarthBound are dead and the Mario RPGs haven’t given a toss about narrative since the Wii/DS era.

Legend of Zelda? Well Breath of the Wild had a terrible plot... so did Skyward Sword.... yeah no. Zelda does work here.

Star Fox? Kid Icarus? Pikmin? Does it look like those franchises are continuing? If those installments are so rare then how does that reflect positively on Nintendo’s attitude towards narrative. Endless Ocean and Astral Chain were t even made by the company. They just published and owned the rights to them. And Metroid Prime.... considering the metroid fandom hates it when Samus talks and the stories in the series that they praise all are really just lore and not an actual plot.... no. Metroid Prime doesn’t count either. Once Nintendo starts regularly putting out games with actual narrative and voiced characters and cutscenes, then you can say they care about story.

You never addressed Fire Emblem, but I think the conversation is becoming pointless. You’ve got your preferences and I don’t think there’s any room for changing your mind. If cutscenes with voice acting is your bottom bar for a story to be engaging... more power to you. There’s plenty of studios serving up interactive movies these days.

Personally I love games like Hollow Knight where the lore needs to be pieces to together from background details and context. No need to cutscenes and plainly laid out motivations. And some games are just plain enjoyable without a story. Whether it’s a satisfying gameplay loop, challenging puzzles or just something that’s fun with friends, lots of games light on plot are entertaining.

I should point out, I have a good friend who also feels like any game without a story is pointless. I disagree with him too, but at least know there’s more of you out there

 

[zeldasmash]

gasp

could it be time to shill my mahvel 4 roster

https://fantendo.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_vs._Capcom_4:_Battle_for_the_Universe

I created this entire page over how I would love to see a hypothetical Marvel vs. Capcom 4. What do you think? You can share your roster if you want.

 

[Speed Weed]

https://fantendo.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_vs._Capcom_4:_Battle_for_the_Universe

I created this entire page over how I would love to see a hypothetical Marvel vs. Capcom 4. What do you think? You can share your roster if you want.

wait holy **** you're the one who did that page?

anyway here's mine

Spoiler

newcomers are in bold and characters who haven't been seen since 2 are in italics.

Capcom:
Ryu
Chun-Li
Morrigan
Zero
Strider Hiryu
Tron Bonne
Wesker
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Vergil
Monster Hunter
Mega Man
Captain Commando
Juri
Mike Haggar
Akira Kazama
Jon Talbain
Lady
Jill Valentine
Franziska von Karma
Hayato
A Cyberbots rep (either Jin or Devilotte)
Viewtiful Joe
Amaterasu
Frank West
Edward Falcon
Nina
Asura

Marvel:
Spider-Man
Iron Man
Captain America
The Hulk
Thor
Wolverine
Storm
Magneto
Deadpool
Doctor Doom
Captain Marvel
Black Panther
Thanos
Scarlet Witch
Star-Lord
Psylocke
Daredevil
Venom
Kamala Khan
Doctor Strange
Blade
Gambit
Fantastic Four (with Mister Fantastic as the main fighter and the others popping up for most attacks)
Black Widow
Squirrel Girl
Gwenpool
Green Goblin
Shuma-Gorath

 

[Deleted member]

This day has been really good.

Taking that big part from my past away has really taken out a lot of mental pressure out of me. Haven't felt this happy and proud about myself since many months ago.
I still don't know how much I should thank most of you for the support you have given me since I joined. It just has meant a lot for me and I legit can only pray things keep improving for all of you as It has for me.

In one or two hours I will take dinner, a shower and prepare myself to sleep.

 

[Schnee117]

https://fantendo.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_vs._Capcom_4:_Battle_for_the_Universe

I created this entire page over how I would love to see a hypothetical Marvel vs. Capcom 4. What do you think? You can share your roster if you want.

This got me thinking that Linn Kurosawa's actually in a pretty unique situation right now what with Marvel now having the comic book rights for Alien and Predator after Dark Horse let them lapse.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

**** I hate Aran Ryan. So far the boxers that have been the toughest were the ones I didn’t fight 500 times on the nes game.

 

[zeldasmash]

wait holy **** you're the one who did that page?

anyway here's mine

Spoiler

newcomers are in bold and characters who haven't been seen since 2 are in italics.

Capcom:
Ryu
Chun-Li
Morrigan
Zero
Strider Hiryu
Tron Bonne
Wesker
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Vergil
Monster Hunter
Mega Man
Captain Commando
Juri
Mike Haggar
Akira Kazama
Jon Talbain
Lady
Jill Valentine
Franziska von Karma
Hayato
A Cyberbots rep (either Jin or Devilotte)
Viewtiful Joe
Amaterasu
Frank West
Edward Falcon
Nina
Asura

Marvel:
Spider-Man
Iron Man
Captain America
The Hulk
Thor
Wolverine
Storm
Magneto
Deadpool
Doctor Doom
Captain Marvel
Black Panther
Thanos
Scarlet Witch
Star-Lord
Psylocke
Daredevil
Venom
Kamala Khan
Doctor Strange
Blade
Gambit
Fantastic Four (with Mister Fantastic as the main fighter and the others popping up for most attacks)
Black Widow
Squirrel Girl
Gwenpool
Green Goblin
Shuma-Gorath

Not a bad roster at all. Though I would put in Akuma, he's vital to making MvC what it is when he was added as a hidden character in Children of the Atom. I had to look up who Akira Kazama was until the style gave away she was from Rival Schools. I think Ultron, Jedah and Sigma are also mainstays in my opinion.

And yeah, the whole page was me. I do have to update the character cards especially since quite a few of them have new renders I could use but they take quite a while.

 

[Speed Weed]

Though I would put in Akuma, he's vital to making MvC what it is when he was added as a hidden character in Children of the Atom.

if i ever do a dlc concept for the game, akuma will probably be the literal first character

 

[SnakeFighter64]

You never addressed Fire Emblem, but I think the conversation is becoming pointless. You’ve got your preferences and I don’t think there’s any room for changing your mind. If cutscenes with voice acting is your bottom bar for a story to be engaging... more power to you. There’s plenty of studios serving up interactive movies these days.

Personally I love games like Hollow Knight where the lore needs to be pieces to together from background details and context. No need to cutscenes and plainly laid out motivations. And some games are just plain enjoyable without a story. Whether it’s a satisfying gameplay loop, challenging puzzles or just something that’s fun with friends, lots of games light on plot are entertaining.

I should point out, I have a good friend who also feels like any game without a story is pointless. I disagree with him too, but at least know there’s more of you out there

Am I saying a game is bad without a good story? No. Am I saying every game would be better with one? Yes.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

That would not be a good fit..... Nintendo would do unspeakable things to MK.

Nah.... MK would get simplified and ruined because Nintendo hates violance and story.

guess Bayonetta has to **** off then

 

[Kirby Dragons]

wait holy **** you're the one who did that page?

anyway here's mine

Spoiler

newcomers are in bold and characters who haven't been seen since 2 are in italics.

Capcom:
Ryu
Chun-Li
Morrigan
Zero
Strider Hiryu
Tron Bonne
Wesker
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Vergil
Monster Hunter
Mega Man
Captain Commando
Juri
Mike Haggar
Akira Kazama
Jon Talbain
Lady
Jill Valentine
Franziska von Karma
Hayato
A Cyberbots rep (either Jin or Devilotte)
Viewtiful Joe
Amaterasu
Frank West
Edward Falcon
Nina
Asura

Marvel:
Spider-Man
Iron Man
Captain America
The Hulk
Thor
Wolverine
Storm
Magneto
Deadpool
Doctor Doom
Captain Marvel
Black Panther
Thanos
Scarlet Witch
Star-Lord
Psylocke
Daredevil
Venom
Kamala Khan
Doctor Strange
Blade
Gambit
Fantastic Four (with Mister Fantastic as the main fighter and the others popping up for most attacks)
Black Widow
Squirrel Girl
Gwenpool
Green Goblin
Shuma-Gorath

You added some cool choices. Though I'll never be sold on the idea that the Fantastic Four should all be one fighter, when they all have enough material for their own movesets. For my roster, I had both Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman individually.

 

[Wademan94]

She is beauty.

She is grace.

She will swept your team and put you in your place.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Dunno if this would be considered a hot take or not

But every Mii costume that's from a series with no musical representation yet should always get one, especially if they're going to license the music for the trailer anyway :/

I would absolutely love to beat up Isabelle to this song

 

[Deleted member]

She is beauty.

She is grace.

She will swept your team and put you in your place.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Is It bad I read your post with the DK rap voice thinking It was a Lanky Kong joke?

 

[zeldasmash]

Actually, another art style or musical style they could use for Marvel vs. Capcom 4 would be something like TEPPEN.

Spoiler

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[Wademan94]

Actually, another art style or musical style they could use for Marvel vs. Capcom 4 would be something like TEPPEN.

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Who’s that dragon dude next to Rathalos?

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

For **** sake.

Why is it every ****ing time I mention anime it gets buried. It always bloody happens.

Like honest to God here. I'm not a mopey ******* but every topic is fine except that it seems.

 

[snowgolem]

Speaking of Teppen, I’m actually surprised Phoenix Wright isn’t in there.

 

[Schnee117]

Who’s that dragon dude next to Rathalos?

Nergigante, also from Monster Hunter

 

[PLANTMAN]

Am I the only one that isn’t a fan of the spirit rematch feature? I have to battle every spirit board target again and what’s worse is that I have every spirit in the collection that I have to fight again

 

[zeldasmash]

Who’s that dragon dude next to Rathalos?

The Nergigante, introduced in Monster Hunter World.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

For **** sake.

Why is it every ****ing time I mention anime it gets buried. It always bloody happens.

Like honest to God here. I'm not a mopey ******* but every topic is fine except that it seems.

If people don’t have anything to contribute to a conversation, they won’t respond.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

If people don’t have anything to contribute to a conversation, they won’t respond.

Like no offence to the crowd and I still stand by my comment last night of how I see a lot of yous friends and that I like being in this community.

My God though, it's the one damn topic from my view that's get buried or not even liked. It's making me think it's a taboo or higher plane deity has cursed me to it. And every topic is grand except anime for my luck.

Everytime it happens sometimes I'll just go back and post a burying gif:

And I've said this before but it can kill a guy's mood. I understand it being a forum but man. No change in my view and I'll probably forget about tomorrow until happens again.

 

[Deleted member]

Like no offence to the crowd and I still stand by my comment last night of how I see a lot of yous friends and that I like being in this community.

My God though, it's the one damn topic from my view that's get buried or not even liked. It's making me think it's a taboo or higher plane deity has cursed me to it. And every topic is grand except anime for my luck.

Everytime it happens sometimes I'll just go back and post a burying gif:

And I've said this before but it can kill a guy's mood. I understand it being a forum but man. No change in my view and I'll probably forget about tomorrow until happens again.

Nah, think of It this way:

I'm sure Guh-Huzzah loves to Talk with me about anything, but let's say I try to talk with him about Sakura Wars. Even if he really tried his best, he could not be able to bring Up much as he hasn't played any of the games or searched about them.


I also used to fear that people at Smashboards were scared of me due to the misteries surrounding my past and all that... But after the events from last night I realized how truly loved many of us are here. It's just that people aren't able to talk about everything all the time, that's It.

Never feel alone, and if you ever want to talk about anime I could talk a lot about my favourite moments from Sargent Keroro or other childhood animes.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Like no offence to the crowd and I still stand by my comment last night of how I see a lot of yous friends and that I like being in this community.

My God though, it's the one damn topic from my view that's get buried or not even liked. It's making me think it's a taboo or higher plane deity has cursed me to it. And every topic is grand except anime for my luck.

Everytime it happens sometimes I'll just go back and post a burying gif:

And I've said this before but it can kill a guy's mood. I understand it being a forum but man. No change in my view and I'll probably forget about tomorrow until happens again.

Real talk: it would also help if you unwind and relax a little more. If you avoid getting upset like this, it'll help you be more approachable down the road. I know this well because I've been on both sides of the spectrum: both angry that nobody's talking to me about the topic that I bring up, as well as seeing others act that way towards me and other peers and from there not exactly being sure what to say because the situation becomes awkward.

 

[Teeb147]

Like no offence to the crowd and I still stand by my comment last night of how I see a lot of yous friends and that I like being in this community.

My God though, it's the one damn topic from my view that's get buried or not even liked. It's making me think it's a taboo or higher plane deity has cursed me to it. And every topic is grand except anime for my luck.

Everytime it happens sometimes I'll just go back and post a burying gif:

And I've said this before but it can kill a guy's mood. I understand it being a forum but man. No change in my view and I'll probably forget about tomorrow until happens again.

Hi. I'm sorry you feel like some of your posts are ignored. To be honest it happens to a lot of us. It's much worse when there's a lot of traffic and posts get lost.
It's definitely not that people are shunning some things, it's often just that they're focusing on other things if it's not their interest at the time. Or maybe you get unlucky and no one's seen those animes.

Re:zero.. if I remember right I didnt finish the first season. I did like it but at the time I was sensitive and I needed brighter or lighter stuff to watch. It's something I might go back to at some point tho

 

[ZephyrZ]

For **** sake.

Why is it every ****ing time I mention anime it gets buried. It always bloody happens.

Like honest to God here. I'm not a mopey ******* but every topic is fine except that it seems.

I can't speak for everyone but I'd probably respond sometimes if I actually watched a lot of anime. But I haven't really watched much since middle school.

I don't hate it or anything, I just don't have anything to say about it.

 

[dezeray112]

With all the Marvel Vs Capcom discussion going on, I'd probably imagine that they will release a new MvC game possibly around 2021 or 2022 and I do hope they can amend their errors made from Infinite.

The only newcomer characters that I think are likely guaranteed for the new Marvel Vs Capcom game would be Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan), Star-Lord, Nero and Leon S. Kennedy.

 

[Deleted member]

The only thing regarding Marvel vs Capcom I want to say is that I hope Viewtiful Joe returns.

He was wonderful in MvC3 and I have nostalgia for the character because of the anime and the NDS game.

 

[Speed Weed]

With all the Marvel Vs Capcom discussion going on, I'd probably imagine that they will release a new MvC game possibly around 2021 or 2022 and I do hope they can amend their errors made from Infinite.

The only newcomer characters that I think are likely guaranteed for the new Marvel Vs Capcom game would be Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan), Star-Lord, Nero and Leon S. Kennedy.

i'd love to see edward falcon make it but capcom avoids making any references to power stone like the plague so i wouldn't count on it

otherwise, i'd like to see jon talbain and the return of gambit, jin and hayato