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[Deleted member]

i'd love to see edward falcon make it but capcom avoids making any references to power stone like the plague so i wouldn't count on it

otherwise, i'd like to see jon talbain and the return of gambit, jin and hayato

Being able to main both Gambit and Viewtiful Joe would be the dream.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Just beat Hollow Knights this is now one of my favorite games I’ve played, period.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Actually, another art style or musical style they could use for Marvel vs. Capcom 4 would be something like TEPPEN.

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Honestly, I think they need to go with a similar art style to smash. Anything else just looks too.... fake.

 

[Wademan94]

Since we’re still on the topic, I posted this MvC roster I had a week or two ago

How’s this for a future MvC roster? Imagine this after DLC:

Spoiler: Marvel

1. Ant-Man/Wasp
2. Black Panther
3. Black Widow
4. Blade
5. Captain America
6. Captain Marvel
7. Daredevil
8. Deadpool
9. Doctor Doom
10. Doc Ock
11. Doctor Strange
12. Dormammu
13. Falcon
14. Gambit
15. Ghost Rider
16. Hawkeye
17. Hulk
18. Invisible Woman
19. Iron Man
20. Loki
21. Magneto
22. Miles Morales
23. Ms. Marvel
24. Pheonix
25. Rocket Raccoon/Groot
26. Scarlet Witch
27. Spider-Man
28. Storm
29. Thanos
30. Thor
31. Venom
32. Wolverine

Spoiler: Capcom

1. Amaterasu
2. Arthur
3. Albert Wesker
4. Captain Commando
5. Chun-Li
6. Dante
7. Dr. Wily
8. Felicia
9. Frank West
10. Guile
11. Jedah
12. Jill Valentine
13. Leon S. Kennedy
14. M. Bison
15. Mega Man
16. Mike Haggar
17. Monster Hunter
18. Morrigan
19. Nemesis
20. Nero
21. Pheonix Wright
22. Rad Spencer
23. Regina
24. Roll
25. Ryu
26. Sigma
27. Strider
28. Trish
29. X
30. Vergil
31. Viewitful Joe
32. Zero

 

[Kirby Dragons]

Like no offence to the crowd and I still stand by my comment last night of how I see a lot of yous friends and that I like being in this community.

My God though, it's the one damn topic from my view that's get buried or not even liked. It's making me think it's a taboo or higher plane deity has cursed me to it. And every topic is grand except anime for my luck.

And I've said this before but it can kill a guy's mood. I understand it being a forum but man. No change in my view and I'll probably forget about tomorrow until happens again.

Occasionally I'll bring up topics, but they'll be moreso for an update. I won't necessarily expect any responses. Usually I'll just reply to what somewhat else said, if it was interesting. I do try to respond to your posts, but I won't always have something to say about the anime you mention.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Honestly... unless they make a roster that’s over double the size of UMvC3.... I don’t think Capcom could satisfy anyone with a new MvC roster. It’s like trying to please both halves of the Sonic fandom.

 

[zeldasmash]

Honestly... unless they make a roster that’s over double the size of UMvC3.... I don’t think Capcom could satisfy anyone with a new MvC roster. It’s like trying to please both halves of the Sonic fandom.

I don't think so. It doesn't need to be doubled, at least to me. Heck, UMvC3 had less characters then MvC2. It's just that the roster needs to be at the quality of those games, which it wasn't in MvC:I. MvC4 does need to improve on the roster significantly. Will it pull what is known as an "SSBU move"? I don't know and we won't know until MvC4 gets announced, if it does at all.

 

[Deleted member]

Just beat Hollow Knights this is now one of my favorite games I’ve played, period.

Glad to hear so!

I really want to try that Game too! Hopefully during Christmas as I have plans to finally buy Persona 5 Royal next month already.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Just beat Hollow Knights this is now one of my favorite games I’ve played, period.

One of my favourite games of the decade! Have you gotten all the endings?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I don't think so. It doesn't need to be doubled, at least to me. Heck, UMvC3 had less characters then MvC2. It's just that the roster needs to be at the quality of those games, which it wasn't in MvC:I. MvC4 does need to improve on the roster significantly. Will it pull what is known as an "SSBU move"? I don't know and we won't know until MvC4 gets announced, if it does at all.

You mean MvC5.

And IMO... those games had really poor quality rosters. Too many heavy hitters were left off in favor of obscure and weird minor ones and there were WAY too many X-Men. But fixing those problems will just cause another infinite situation of people whining that there aren’t enough X-Men and that there are too many “MCU” characters when that’s not how it ****ing works. That’s like complaining that there are too many Marvel characters in the game. But cater to the X-Men fans and then you alienate everyone who loves marvel that didn’t grow up in the 90s.

 

[Deleted member]

The director of Sakura Wars PS4 is currently researching fan interest on a Switch port to see if he can make It happen

Sakura Wars Director on Whether The Game Could Come to Switch and Other Platforms https://t.co/LTRkXdvWxs pic.twitter.com/gGtqtOZCiM

— DualShockers (@DualShockers) July 7, 2020

Gonna tag osby so he doesn't miss out on the news.

 

[snowgolem]

You mean MvC5.

And IMO... those games had really poor quality rosters. Too many heavy hitters were left off in favor of obscure and weird minor ones and there were WAY too many X-Men. But fixing those problems will just cause another infinite situation of people whining that there aren’t enough X-Men and that there are too many “MCU” characters when that’s not how it ****ing works. That’s like complaining that there are too many Marvel characters in the game. But cater to the X-Men fans and then you alienate everyone who loves marvel that didn’t grow up in the 90s.

While I agree, you should also prioritize catering to everyone. Keep a certain amount of heavy hitters, with an equal amount of obscure characters.
If they complain, who cares? At least they have something.
Sorry for joining the discussion out of nowhere.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

I'm still somewhat annoyed by my post burying and it always seems to be that topic. Especially being a certain episode and such. I'm a little upset.


And man but is my eccentricity going off the rails tonight. I haven't drank or anything but my brain is feeling off. And because my household is loud I can't go to sleep.

I don't know the feeling. Might need to rant.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

One of my favourite games of the decade! Have you gotten all the endings?

Not yet. I only have the hollow ending. I plan on going for the others though.

 

[Speed Weed]

But fixing those problems will just cause another infinite situation of people whining that there aren’t enough X-Men

people didn't complain that there weren't enough x-men, people complained that there were no x-men at all

otherwise you'd see a lot of hate towards mvc3's roster too

 

[Kirby Dragons]

If we get a new Marvel vs Capcom, I'm 100% gonna need Scarlet Witch to be playable. It's disappointing she's only made cameos in the series.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

While I agree, you should also prioritize catering to everyone. Keep a certain amount of heavy hitters, with an equal amount of obscure characters.
If they complain, who cares? At least they have something.
Sorry for joining the discussion out of nowhere.

..... no. That’s just.... not a good idea. And now I’m officially shifting from a profit motivation to a quality of project motivation. When you’re making a crossover, it becomes important to have ALL your big guys there at least for the first installment. You can’t have anyone go “why did you leave out X? They’re iconic”. It’s like Smash to a point. They didn’t start including weirdos like ROB, Palutena, or Duck Hunt until long after they covered all their bases and had the most iconic characters to their brand represented. But the problem with MvC is that they’ve never had that “first installment” that says “the gang’s all here”. Ever since day one they’ve kind of just done whatever. So they need to finally do that. Make room for all the heavy hitters. All the big sellers and their arch enemies, maybe a supporting character or two, and then you can start to bring back the weirdos. That’s when you can have your Shuma-Gorath’s and your X-23’s and your Spiral’s and your Marrow’s and your Gambits’s and Sentinels.

 

[Megadoomer]

..... no. That’s just.... not a good idea. And now I’m officially shifting from a profit motivation to a quality of project motivation. When you’re making a crossover, it becomes important to have ALL your big guys there at least for the first installment. You can’t have anyone go “why did you leave out X? They’re iconic”. It’s like Smash to a point. They didn’t start including weirdos like ROB, Palutena, or Duck Hunt until long after they covered all their bases and had the most iconic characters to their brand represented. But the problem with MvC is that they’ve never had that “first installment” that says “the gang’s all here”. Ever since day one they’ve kind of just done whatever. So they need to finally do that. Make room for all the heavy hitters. All the big sellers and their arch enemies, maybe a supporting character or two, and then you can start to bring back the weirdos. That’s when you can have your Shuma-Gorath’s and your X-23’s and your Spiral’s and your Marrow’s and your Gambits’s and Sentinels.

MvC2 had a lot of weirdos because it was basically an asset flip game, like BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle. Sure, there were some new characters, but most of them were re-used from older Marvel fighting games that were made by Capcom. That's why it had characters like Spiral, Blackheart, Sentinel, Silver Samurai, Omega Red, etc. I think the only characters that it left out were bosses, palette-swapped secret characters, Norimaro (a bizarre cameo from a real-life comedian who was only in the Japanese version of Marvel Superheroes vs. Street Fighter), and Anita from Darkstalkers, who was a secret character in the Japanese version of Marvel Superheroes.

 

[snowgolem]

..... no. That’s just.... not a good idea. And now I’m officially shifting from a profit motivation to a quality of project motivation. When you’re making a crossover, it becomes important to have ALL your big guys there at least for the first installment. You can’t have anyone go “why did you leave out X? They’re iconic”. It’s like Smash to a point. They didn’t start including weirdos like ROB, Palutena, or Duck Hunt until long after they covered all their bases and had the most iconic characters to their brand represented. But the problem with MvC is that they’ve never had that “first installment” that says “the gang’s all here”. Ever since day one they’ve kind of just done whatever. So they need to finally do that. Make room for all the heavy hitters. All the big sellers and their arch enemies, maybe a supporting character or two, and then you can start to bring back the weirdos. That’s when you can have your Shuma-Gorath’s and your X-23’s and your Spiral’s and your Marrow’s and your Gambits’s and Sentinels.

The difference is Nintendo has way more clear heavy hitters. In melee, they had pretty much covered all the points. Marvel isn’t so simple. You can’t have Iron Man without Captain America, but then you start having too many heavy hitters.
What they really need to do is help determine who is truly a heavy hitter and needs to be in. Just like Smash did.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

I'm still somewhat annoyed by my post burying and it always seems to be that topic. Especially being a certain episode and such. I'm a little upset.
And man but is my eccentricity going off the rails tonight. I haven't drank or anything but my brain is feeling off. And because my household is loud I can't go to sleep.
I don't know the feeling. Might need to rant.

Yeah I might go on a rant about a few things. I'm unusually moody today.

 

[Zinith]

I backed a Kickstarter for the first time

 

[SnakeFighter64]

people didn't complain that there weren't enough x-men, people complained that there were no x-men at all

otherwise you'd see a lot of hate towards mvc3's roster too

Really wish that marvel had charged through it the way Capcom did with SFV. They really saved that game. And if you look at the characters the leaks said were coming down the line

Spoiler

Star-Lord
Ms. Marvel
Wolverine
Deadpool
Daredevil
Wolverine
Storm
Psylocke
Magneto
Dr. Doom
Green Goblin

Asura
Rashid
G
Lady
Akuma
Vergil
Gene (God Hand)
Captain Commando
Apollo Justice
Regina
Nina
Deis

That would have been a great roster. Not the best, there would still be some missing big swingers. But overall... pretty great. But nope. Disney rushed the game through production to compete with Injustice 2 and it suffered as a result and caused people to not even give it a chance. The game died and never got the chance to grow the way SFV did. And that’s our fault for ********.

 

[snowgolem]

I backed a Kickstarter for the first time

I’m curious now. Can you tell me what it’s for?

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Yeah I might go on a rant about a few things. I'm unusually moody today.

Got any warm milk or peppermint tea? That could help you unwind.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

The difference is Nintendo has way more clear heavy hitters. In melee, they had pretty much covered all the points. Marvel isn’t so simple. You can’t have Iron Man without Captain America, but then you start having too many heavy hitters.
What they really need to do is help determine who is truly a heavy hitter and needs to be in. Just like Smash did.

Headliners. The characters that get their own films and tv shows and have been starting in their own books for decades. Those are who you should prioritize.

MvC2 had a lot of weirdos because it was basically an asset flip game, like BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle. Sure, there were some new characters, but most of them were re-used from older Marvel fighting games that were made by Capcom. That's why it had characters like Spiral, Blackheart, Sentinel, Silver Samurai, Omega Red, etc. I think the only characters that it left out were bosses, palette-swapped secret characters, Norimaro (a bizarre cameo from a real-life comedian who was only in the Japanese version of Marvel Superheroes vs. Street Fighter), and Anita from Darkstalkers, who was a secret character in the Japanese version of Marvel Superheroes.

And yet nobody criticizes it. They want to go back to that with the excess of X-Men and Street Fighter characters. At least, that’s what this all tells me.

And the X-Men aren’t even that cool to begin with.

 

[Zinith]

I’m curious now. Can you tell me what it’s for?

It's for this.

It beat it's goal in under a minute

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

people didn't complain that there weren't enough x-men, people complained that there were no x-men at all

otherwise you'd see a lot of hate towards mvc3's roster too

To be fair I did see a lot of people complain that MvC3 didn’t have Gambit and Cyclops.

 

[Guynamednelson]

bosses

Only bosses that were too big (insert Ridley joke here). Which Juggernaut wasn't but Apocalype was.

palette-swapped secret characters

They actually subtly included one: Iron Man was based off MvC1 War Machine while War Machine was based off Gold War Machine. A couple of SF characters can also turn into their palette-swap versions.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

Got any warm milk or peppermint tea? That could help you unwind.

Might try that. Doesn't hurt to try a new drink.

Problem is that it won't get rid of the main problems. I get moody because I can't get sleep and I can't because of a few reasons. It's why I'm on the forums til 4am/5am most nights.

I'm off the rocker a bit today even before the post burying and might talk it out here. People think I'm bipolar (not you guys) with the constant jumping of moods and one of my former classmates seems to be on that.

 

[Deleted member]

Speed Weed osby Dutch Raikuna yo, check this out.

All seem to be the arcade ports.

 

[zeldasmash]

..... no. That’s just.... not a good idea. And now I’m officially shifting from a profit motivation to a quality of project motivation. When you’re making a crossover, it becomes important to have ALL your big guys there at least for the first installment. You can’t have anyone go “why did you leave out X? They’re iconic”. It’s like Smash to a point. They didn’t start including weirdos like ROB, Palutena, or Duck Hunt until long after they covered all their bases and had the most iconic characters to their brand represented. But the problem with MvC is that they’ve never had that “first installment” that says “the gang’s all here”. Ever since day one they’ve kind of just done whatever. So they need to finally do that. Make room for all the heavy hitters. All the big sellers and their arch enemies, maybe a supporting character or two, and then you can start to bring back the weirdos. That’s when you can have your Shuma-Gorath’s and your X-23’s and your Spiral’s and your Marrow’s and your Gambits’s and Sentinels.

I see where you are coming from, but there are holes.

When you are doing a crossover, you should have a good chunk of heavy hitters, yes. However, if you are a franchise like Smash Bros. or Marvel vs. Capcom, at a point you want to add in some odd ball characters to spice things up a bit. Even Smash 64 had an oddball choice with Jigglypuff and Melee had Mr. Game & Watch which defined the term "odd". Also, slight thing here, but I don't think Gambit is your resident oddball pick. He's one of the more popular X-Men.

Marvel vs. Capcom's closest game to "the gang is all here" is Marvel vs. Capcom 2 with everyone from Children of the Atom, Marvel Super Heroes, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes all in the game, giving it room to add in characters like Marrow or Anakaris or B.B Hood while Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite had no idea what it wanted to do with it's roster (especially Capcom's side). Marvel vs. Capcom also has it's fair share of oddballs and flat out bizarre characters (have you seen Norimaro from MSHvsSF or Anita from Marvel Super Heroes?).

MvC:I was the mess it was because Disney really wanted to be seen as the head honcho in terms of demands and how the roster was going to be, at least in the Marvel side. But it was also a mess because the game was strangely, and stupidly, a BUDGET title. Which means they couldn't do a lot with the money they had, which is baffling because you have support from Marvel and Disney, with their near endless supply of money. MvC:I is just an enigma.

Marvel 3 was the most experimental one in terms of roster additions which in my opinion, gave it the best and most varied roster in the series so far. While removing Mega Man and Venom was dumb, a lot of the characters introduced in Marvel 3 are excellent additions to the roster.

Marvel vs. Capcom is a franchise that with the right amount of freedom and negotiations, can go ham with the roster. Heck, they could pull a "Everyone Is Here" if they want. But the question are they willing to go that far? Now, both companies have the money and resources to do it. But will they? That's the question. I think MvC4 or MvC5 (if you count Infinite as MvC4) would be the best time to pull it off. They want to get back everyone they lost from the fanbase due to MvC:I so what better way to do then to pull of a Smash Ultimate and make it the swan song of the series if need be.

 

[Aurane]

I would absolutely love to beat up Isabelle

Posts that make me absolutely livid.

 

[PLANTMAN]

I wonder should I get xcde? I haven’t played a xeno game before

 

[PLATINUM7]

Speed Weed osby Dutch Raikuna yo, check this out.

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All seem to be the arcade ports.

Something nice about this compared to the Neo Geo mini is it appears to have a normal HDMI port.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I see where you are coming from, but there are holes.

When you are doing a crossover, you should have a good chunk of heavy hitters, yes. However, if you are a franchise like Smash Bros. or Marvel vs. Capcom, at a point you want to add in some odd ball characters to spice things up a bit. Even Smash 64 had an oddball choice with Jigglypuff and Melee had Mr. Game & Watch which defined the term "odd". Also, slight thing here, but I don't think Gambit is your resident oddball pick. He's one of the more popular X-Men.

Marvel vs. Capcom's closest game to "the gang is all here" is Marvel vs. Capcom 2 with everyone from Children of the Atom, Marvel Super Heroes, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes all in the game, giving it room to add in characters like Marrow or Anakaris or B.B Hood while Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite had no idea what it wanted to do with it's roster (especially Capcom's side). Marvel vs. Capcom also has it's fair share of oddballs and flat out bizarre characters (have you seen Norimaro from MSHvsSF or Anita from Marvel Super Heroes?).

MvC:I was the mess it was because Disney really wanted to be seen as the head honcho in terms of demands and how the roster was going to be, at least in the Marvel side. But it was also a mess because the game was strangely, and stupidly, a BUDGET title. Which means they couldn't do a lot with the money they had, which is baffling because you have support from Marvel and Disney, with their near endless supply of money. MvC:I is just an enigma.

Marvel 3 was the most experimental one in terms of roster additions which in my opinion, gave it the best and most varied roster in the series so far. While removing Mega Man and Venom was dumb, a lot of the characters introduced in Marvel 3 are excellent additions to the roster.

Marvel vs. Capcom is a franchise that with the right amount of freedom and negotiations, can go ham with the roster. Heck, they could pull a "Everyone Is Here" if they want. But the question are they willing to go that far? Now, both companies have the money and resources to do it. But will they? That's the question. I think MvC4 or MvC5 (if you count Infinite as MvC4) would be the best time to pull it off. They want to get back everyone they lost from the fanbase due to MvC:I so what better way to do then to pull of a Smash Ultimate and make it the swan song of the series if need be.

I could see an everyone is here if you just use UMvC3, Infinite, and Infinite’s cut dlc characters. But expanding it to include 2... you’re starting to get close to my infamous 100 character rosters.

 

[snowgolem]

Headliners. The characters that get their own films and tv shows and have been starting in their own books for decades. Those are who you should prioritize.


And yet nobody criticizes it. They want to go back to that with the excess of X-Men and Street Fighter characters. At least, that’s what this all tells me.

And the X-Men aren’t even that cool to begin with.

And then,, people complain. That’s why we’d need a good mixture of both. Because Marvel has a good ton of those, of course it’s gonna be hard to balance it. It will be easier once they realize who they’ll need to sacrifice to keep things even.

It's for this.

It beat it's goal in under a minute

I personally have no idea what that is, but I’m glad you enjoy it!
But geez, that got a lot of money really fast

 

[TheMightyP]

I love kirby, and never really thought there should be much to the lore He's a blob that can eat almost anything and copy powers. Does the lore need to make sense?

For people to say that it has the best lore in Nintendo, yeah, it should make sense. And that's why I'm saying that Kirby's lore isn't as good as people make it out to be, simply because it just isn't coherent.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Speed Weed osby Dutch Raikuna yo, check this out.

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All seem to be the arcade ports.

Should've been Virtua Fighter 2 instead of one. Just because VF1's models are more iconic doesn't mean VF2's gameplay didn't age better, but I guess they aren't using a Model 2 emulator on this thing, just MAME.

 

[Teeb147]

For people to say that it has the best lore in Nintendo, yeah, it should make sense. And that's why I'm saying that Kirby's lore isn't as good as people make it out to be, simply because it just isn't coherent.

Lol, who's said that kirby's lore is good?
It's got great history for a game. I still marvel at what they managed to do for the first on nes, it was a great gem.
Kirby got some love in smash ultimate for the story, maybe that's something.

 

[Lamperouge]

For **** sake.

Why is it every ****ing time I mention anime it gets buried. It always bloody happens.

Like honest to God here. I'm not a mopey ******* but every topic is fine except that it seems.

I'd love to chime in on ReZero since I enjoy anime but I've actually never seen it. Currently I've been trying to finish Bakemonogatari, and it's pretty fun...albeit a little weird. Not entirely sure what the correct viewing order for this series is supposed to be either, but I do recall some people recommending to start with this one.