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Geno, Banjo, K. Rool, and Ridley have been the four big ones for as long as I’ve been in the fandom. Anyone else, while for sure are great additions, are not the big fandom wants despite what the Waluigi fan base wants you to think.

Seriously, that fan base just popped up overnight when the ultimate e3 presentation happened.
This is revisionist history at best.
 

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Geno, Banjo, K. Rool, and Ridley have been the four big ones for as long as I’ve been in the fandom. Anyone else, while for sure are great additions, are not the big fandom wants despite what the Waluigi fan base wants you to think.

Seriously, that fan base just popped up overnight when the ultimate e3 presentation happened.
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i love how we ignored the notion of the tweet telling us that all characters are equal, by promptly bringing up why a certain character "deserves" to be in more than another in response

never change, Smashboards, never change
 
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This is revisionist history at best.
Revisionist? It’s what I remember. I watched PBG’s reaction to the stream and they talked about Waluigi, then I was texting a friend and he went on about Waluigi, and then all of a sudden he was friggin everywhere all over Twitter and getting articles written about him.
 

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Revisionist? It’s what I remember. I watched PBG’s reaction to the stream and they talked about Waluigi, then I was texting a friend and he went on about Waluigi, and then all of a sudden he was friggin everywhere all over Twitter and getting articles written about him.
There is no "Big X"

We've been over this.


As much as people like to try to say that Ridley, K.Rool, Banjo and Geno are this holy quad


People always conveniently forget Isaac
Or how K.Rool wasn't nearly as popular during Brawl

Or how Geno fell out of favor during 4

Or...

Etc etc
 

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There is no "Big X"

We've been over this.


As much as people like to try to say that Ridley, K.Rool, Banjo and Geno are this holy quad


People always conveniently forget Isaac
Or how K.Rool wasn't nearly as popular during Brawl

Or how Geno fell out of favor during 4

Or...

Etc etc
Geno did not fall out of favor. The **** are you talking about.

And I don’t forget about Isaac. He’s just already an assist trophy. If he wasn’t I’d be saying Big 5. I’m not just being a biased fan girl, I’ve thought about this.
 

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Geno, Banjo, K. Rool, and Ridley have been the four big ones for as long as I’ve been in the fandom. Anyone else, while for sure are great additions, are not the big fandom wants despite what the Waluigi fan base wants you to think.

Seriously, that fan base just popped up overnight when the ultimate e3 presentation happened.
Issac and Bandana Dee:Are we jokes to you?
 

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Geno did not fall out of favor. The **** are you talking about.

And I don’t forget about Isaac. He’s just already an assist trophy. If he wasn’t I’d be saying Big 5. I’m not just being a biased fan girl, I’ve thought about this.
Yes, yes he did.

Geno's support during Smash 4 times was at an all time low.
 

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Geno, Banjo, K. Rool, and Ridley have been the four big ones for as long as I’ve been in the fandom. Anyone else, while for sure are great additions, are not the big fandom wants despite what the Waluigi fan base wants you to think.

Seriously, that fan base just popped up overnight when the ultimate e3 presentation happened.
Ah yes, I remember "The Great WAHtroversty of 2018" before I joined this site back in 2019. (Sakurai doesn't deserve those death threats for Waluigi being a trophy again and Fire Emblem having Byleth.)
 
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I don’t know where you were then. But I did NOT experience that. The magical land where Cloud and Bayonetta had more people angry then hyped I guess.
I've been speculating since Brawl.

Geno's hype was as follows:
High during Brawl
Meager during base game
HIGH during dlc
Low as hell after the costume


Geno's only recovered due to this dumbass belief of a "Big 4/5"
 

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I've been speculating since Brawl.

Geno's hype was as follows:
High during Brawl
Meager during base game
HIGH during dlc
Low as hell after the costume


Geno's only recovered due to this dumbass belief of a "Big 4/5"
Ok. I admit to not being around for Brawl, or base game speculation. I didn’t get into smash till right before Smash4 launched, but he was always there. Every YouTube video I saw, every tweet with multiple character requests, every fan-poll trying to recreate the smash ballot results early. Always there and always consistently high. And to me, that matters more then “speculation”. I don’t care what people thought was “likely”, I care about what a lot of people wanted. And I saw nothing but consistent Geno requests.
 

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I think people were angry at Bayonetta for winning the Ballot. But I'm wondering why they were angry at Cloud?
He's "not Nintendo enough", probably. (Snake was hit with that a lot, and Ryu had similar complaints, though they were less common) Don't get me wrong, Terra or Cecil would be neat, but when people think of RPGs, Cloud is probably going to be one of the first characters that comes to mind for most people.
 
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Ok. I admit to not being around for Brawl, or base game speculation. I didn’t get into smash till right before Smash4 launched, but he was always there. Every YouTube video I saw, every tweet with multiple character requests, every fan-poll trying to recreate the smash ballot results early. Always there and always consistently high. And to me, that matters more then “speculation”. I don’t care what people thought was “likely”, I care about what a lot of people wanted. And I saw nothing but consistent Geno requests.
During the Smash 4 dlc polls, yes.

I covered that.

During the Dlc, Geno got a huge surge of popularity, but after Brawl, his hype died off, hard.
 

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I think people were angry at Bayonetta for winning the Ballot. But I'm wondering why they were angry at Cloud?
They weren’t, at least where I was. I saw nothing but hype for Cloud. He broke the internet. But then I come here and people are like “people hated Cloud” and I’m like what? I swear, Smashboards has its own unique speculation ecosystem that doesn’t care about what people are saying anywhere else.
 

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They weren’t, at least where I was. I saw nothing but hype for Cloud. He broke the internet. But then I come here and people are like “people hated Cloud” and I’m like what? I swear, Smashboards has its own unique speculation ecosystem that doesn’t care about what people are saying anywhere else.
I don't think anyone was mad at Cloud besides die hard Nintendo fanboys.

Bayonetta was MUCH more controversial.
 

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The notion of these "big" characters has kinda made me realize that this is really just a way to act as if you were entitled to their inclusion when they don't show up in the game, by putting them on a pedestal held up by supposed fan demand. And I say that as someone who has used that term in the distant past. It's lame.
 

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During the Smash 4 dlc polls, yes.

I covered that.

During the Dlc, Geno got a huge surge of popularity, but after Brawl, his hype died off, hard.
I guess I can concede to that. I wasn’t there so I don’t know. Like, my first impression of Smash 4 was “this game has Wii Fit Trainer in it, cool, back to Mortal Kombat”.

But whatever. As someone who’s opinions if smash and who’s popular were molded by the Smash4 DLC era, I know I’lll he contemy with Geno.

Also, Peanut Butter Gamer started the Waluigi movement day of E3, I don’t care what anyone says.
 

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There is no "Big X"
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I don’t know where you were then. But I did NOT experience that. The magical land where Cloud and Bayonetta had more people angry then hyped I guess.
nobody was mad at Bayonetta until they got to find out how busted she was in Smash 4
 

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The notion of these "big" characters has kinda made me realize that this is really just a way to act as if you were entitled to their inclusion when they don't show up in the game, by putting them on a pedestal held up by supposed fan demand. And I say that as someone who has used that term in the distant past. It's lame.
Ok. Acting like your entitled to anything is wrong. But you have to acknowledge when a character is really popular among the fan base. Especially now that that’s a confirmed guiding influence on who gets in thanks to the ballot.
 

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I don't think anyone was mad at Cloud besides die hard Nintendo fanboys.

Bayonetta was MUCH more controversial.
I can imagine some people were mad at Cloud because he was third-party and some people are offended by third-parties, for some reason.

I don't recall any controversy over Bayonetta at the time of her announcement. Almost everyone I saw was excited. The controversy for her inclusion seemed to be anachronistic after she began to top the metagame and people who initially liked or were otherwise indifferent to her began to hate her because she was OP.

That was when people began to develop conspiracy theories about whether or not she really won the ballot and if Sakurai was lying or not. But people weren't doing that when she was announced/released, as far as I saw.
 

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Bayo's controversy was being the ballot character. People were kicking and screaming over wanting the actual results.
 

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Bayo's controversy was being the ballot character. People were kicking and screaming over wanting the actual results.
Wasn’t big enough to cause many to hate her before she released. There were also problems with her having to be censored for the kids
 

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nobody was mad at Bayonetta until they got to find out how busted she was in Smash 4
I recall people being mad when she was announced, though that was mostly because they figured that there was no way that she made it in through the ballot, and that [insert person's favourite character here] was clearly the real winner.
 
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