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stop feeling yourself, you have never accomplished anything
thanks for proving my point
seriously, think about it -- you have underwhelmed your skill level your entire smash career. the fact that your best accomplishments are heavily weighted toward teaming with a 15-year-old... get real.
stop feeling yourself, you have never accomplished anything
thanks for proving my point
seriously, think about it -- you have underwhelmed your skill level your entire smash career. the fact that your best accomplishments are heavily weighted toward teaming with a 15-year-old... get real.
And I've never accomplished ANYTHING? So I guess the only way to accomplish something in Socal is to beat top 3 nowadays... well if that's how it is, then yeah, I've yet to accomplish anything.
And seriously, stop using Connors age as a point against me.. it's really getting old. Pretty sure that same 15 year old beat you in tourney along with almost everyone else on the current PR.
[edited cuz im dumb] I play ****ty when I have to travel 7 hours in a cramped car, stay up all night, and eat next to nothing [my johns lol], I beat Brandon and Germ when they came down here and only lost to Mango and Eggz. Didn't Fly beat Zel and Falcomist and he plays like once a month? Lovage beat Swift (who recently got 2nd in a midwest tourney as you probably know) and only lost to vanz who is ranked and jiano who he placed higher than anyway. What's wrong with 25th at ROM, I thought we were proud of him.
No one from the East Coast expects us to be good anyway, they assumed Lovage would get *****, why would they even care about our rankings
Connecticut Power Rankings -3/18/09-
Melee
Panelists: Spawn, Mogwai, Aesir, DarkDragoon
Mission Statement: To create a healthy competitive environment in Connecticut which will help inspire players to get progressively better over time.
How many people have heard of anyone past 3rd? Nobody on the west coast is gonna go over there and be like, "yo I beat #4 on your PR, connecticut is a joke"
To norcal maybe we're not that strong, but that's more motivation for us to get better. If Lovage and ROFL and some others don't care about getting better you're right I can't control that but for those that do care we have been improving and you can tell. Connor and I are leagues above what we were before, even MacD has improved despite any mindset he may have, SDR has not hit any walls that he can't get past, and many tournament matches PROVE this, for example Connor taking Zhu to last game, last stock, last hit (i don't have to remind you where zhu stands on a national, even global level), SDR being a step away from beating your beloved tofu, and didn't MacD beat you last time you played?
you don't fluke **** in melee. you win for a reason.
Whether it was a fluke or not, if you had to play MacD again I guarantee you would have to try your *** off to win despite you being "the only person in socal who makes Lucky try"
I'm not going to take the time to comment on your logic, it's just you saying "less is more" and "thanks for proving my point" in places where it doesn't even work to make yourself look like you're in the right, and then giving examples that really don't add to your argument. I'm not butthurt at all, I'm trying to salvage the situation for what it's worth rather than give up on it completely. Sometimes you are too stubborn to give credit to other viewpoints.
I will legitimately **** up Joe and Tofu and DP and Darkmike and the rest of norcal at Mango Juice 2 and I will put money on it.
How many people have heard of anyone past 3rd? Nobody on the west coast is gonna go over there and be like, "yo I beat #4 on your PR, connecticut is a joke"
Lovage beat Swift (who recently got 2nd in a midwest tourney as you probably know) and only lost to vanz who is ranked and jiano who he placed higher than anyway. What's wrong with 25th at ROM, I thought we were proud of him.
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no you misunderstood me. if you really don't think someone like D.P. or Darkmike couldn't come down here and **** you and lovage and make socal look like a joke...
Darkmike would probably beat everybody
DP would have a lot more trouble
don't you remember when joe came and beat fly and lovage and you? is he even ranked on norcal's list? all the PR is doing is embarassing socal as a whole. do you know how much pressure was on lovage going to EC because he was 4th?
I was ranked 13th out of 15 when that happened. I'm 15th now. It's not embarrassing, it just shows that norcal is a stronger region. Man up, homie.
Why does it matter that there was pressure on lovage? There should be, seeing how different regions stack up vs one another is a part of the competition.
and i know i'm one of the people who didn't (and doesn't) give macd any credit, but that's only because he's an example of another problem: people get "good" too quickly -- "good" being the definition of what was good two years ago but is now standard all across the country -- and think they don't have to worry about having a noob mindset, and in the end just hit a wall and never improve at the rate they should.
and that is the problem with EVERY decent player in this community who thinks they're serious about this game, from san diego reaper to kouryuu to macd to old school embracethe12. the ones who are "so dedicated" are the ones with the biggest noob mindsets, but if you combine a legitimate mindset with legitimate dedication you get a guy like joe or tofu.
and that's why when they left the community really died.
I like being thought of as a good player with determination, but this undermines the first point that you made about me beating everybody at SCSA/mango juice.
The last time I played Joe was a fluke, I play ****ty when I have to travel 7 hours in a cramped car, stay up all night, and eat next to nothing, I beat Brandon and Germ when they came down here and only lost to Mango and Eggz.
That was a fluke, they had to travel 7 hours in a car, eat next to nothing, and not sleep the night before. And when we last played at San Francisco, I had the same amount of sleep, nothing to eat since 10PM the night before, PLUS I had pinkeye and the flu.
I beat Zelgadis traveling up to WCSL, no johns.
I'm still disappointed that you choked against me, though. I hate that.
I will legitimately **** up Joe and Tofu and DP and Darkmike and the rest of norcal at Mango Juice 2 and I will put money on it.
recently i have been doing pretty good (3rd or 4th every tourney) except for Stab's tourney where I lost to kouryuu but then again so did lovage and atlus. eh other socalians can speak for me, i'm not going to comment on my own skill more than i already have lol
That was a fluke, they had to travel 7 hours in a car, eat next to nothing, and not sleep the night before. And when we last played at San Francisco, I had the same amount of sleep, nothing to eat since 10PM the night before, PLUS I had pinkeye and the flu.
I beat Zelgadis traveling up to WCSL, no johns.
I'm still disappointed that you choked against me, though. I hate that.
ahah, yeah sorry your win against me wasnt a fluke my bad, i'll go edit that.
it seems home court advantage matters more than actual skill then
KFC you're too good, i'd probably lose to you
you, phil, tang, lunin are who i'd be most worried about, foxes are scary
the rest of 'em i'll take down =P
jeff is the obvious exception
i just looked at the norcal pr and the only people i would be scared of playing are like....shroomed dark mike and HMW. **** socal and your lack of character diversity
the only reason i want to compete in socal tournys is to play connor and kira in brackets cuz they're really fun to play. we have other people that might be good or have gotten better but they don't show up to enough tournies or are ridiculously inconsistent. step it UP socal
the only reason i want to compete in socal tournys is to play connor and kira in brackets cuz they're really fun to play. we have other people that might be good or have gotten better but they don't show up to enough tournies or are ridiculously inconsistent. step it UP socal
I'm gonna go ahead and say that the PR is motivational even if not 100% effective. I don't think mango's point about it making us look like a joke matters.... EC will think what they want to about WC and socal whether or not we list 10 people in our boards.
I just recently started going to tourneys but the PR really serves as a tangible goal to work to. P might be right that 1-3 are the only ones that are good enough to be listed as competitive, but i don't think it hurts to list #10 so that #11 doesn't feel like his next step up is miles away.
If the only accomplishment that i could do that would be recorded was beating mango zhu and lucky consistently, I would get kind of discouraged.
As for people caring... i too care... Not at the level of PR yet, but it gives me something to work to.
HAHAHAAH I knew you'd bring that up eventually. Last time we played was when I sucked d!ck, I will **** your **** just for that! We better play in tournament!
the only reason i want to compete in socal tournys is to play connor and kira in brackets cuz they're really fun to play. we have other people that might be good or have gotten better but they don't show up to enough tournies or are ridiculously inconsistent. step it UP socal
HAHAHAAH I knew you'd bring that up eventually. Last time we played was when I sucked d!ck, I will **** your **** just for that! We better play in tournament!
the only reason i want to compete in socal tournys is to play connor and kira in brackets cuz they're really fun to play. we have other people that might be good or have gotten better but they don't show up to enough tournies or are ridiculously inconsistent. step it UP socal
Sneak up and hit ya like a ****in tornado
Puttin Crash Man in the trash can like yesterday's tomatoes
Crashin the party, it's Mega Man, baby!
It's all gravy!
Sneak up and hit ya like a ****in tornado
Puttin Crash Man in the trash can like yesterday's tomatoes
Crashin the party, it's Mega Man, baby!
It's all gravy!
And I've never accomplished ANYTHING? So I guess the only way to accomplish something in Socal is to beat top 3 nowadays... well if that's how it is, then yeah, I've yet to accomplish anything.
Everyone in the community has a crappy definition of good, and that's why they stay stuck where you are.
Players like Lunin and Lucky are the bare minimum to be considered "good." Good is not holding your own, good is not competing with your peers, good is ****** the majority of your peers and holding your own against anyone.
waits for Kira to say "omg if Lucky gets ***** by Chu then he's not "good?"
Until you get to that level, you have no right to feel yourself. Case closed.
And seriously, stop using Connors age as a point against me.. it's really getting old. Pretty sure that same 15 year old beat you in tourney along with almost everyone else on the current PR.
I beat Brandon and Germ when they came down here and only lost to Mango and Eggz. Didn't Fly beat Zel and Falcomist and he plays like once a month? Lovage beat Swift (who recently got 2nd in a midwest tourney as you probably know) and only lost to vanz who is ranked and jiano who he placed higher than anyway. What's wrong with 25th at ROM, I thought we were proud of him.
I don't even know what you're arguing about -- quotes help dog -- but I can definitely tell it's beside the point. Good job. So what? What's your point? It's definitely not a response to what my point was. You also missed the lovage point entirely.
And no, it's not me not giving you credit to your arguments here, it's that I expect more from you and I'm not going to hold your hand in the process. You're a grown *** man who likes to pride himself on his intelligence and logic and feels like he's on a level above other people. I'm not saying that judgmentally, I'm saying that matter-of-factly. So I'm not going to hold your hand in a debate. And if that means nothing I say gets through to you, then so be it -- no matter how I put it it ever is. I just do it because it's entertaining and I'm too spiteful for my own good.
How many people have heard of anyone past 3rd? Nobody on the west coast is gonna go over there and be like, "yo I beat #4 on your PR, connecticut is a joke"
Of course they would. It's called bragging rights for a reason. It's not meant to get butt hurt over, but it is something to hold over people's head. That's what competition is all about. Truly competitive people never forget who they lost to.
If Lovage and ROFL and some others don't care about getting better you're right I can't control that but for those that do care we have been improving and you can tell. Connor and I are leagues above what we were before, even MacD has improved despite any mindset he may have, SDR has not hit any walls that he can't get past, and many tournament matches PROVE this, for example Connor taking Zhu to last game, last stock, last hit (i don't have to remind you where zhu stands on a national, even global level), SDR being a step away from beating your beloved tofu, and didn't MacD beat you last time you played?
Melee is mental, dude. If you don't understand and fully comprehend the mental aspect, you're only going to go so far and you're never going to get truly good. That's the point. Mentally speaking, SoCal is miles behind of other top areas like South and Tri-State and Canada and Norcal, and the proof is in the pudding. We used to be 1A or 1B. The new community has not carried the torch like the old community.
So it's like, so what? Yeah, SDR is getting better... And? I can guarantee you he'll never get legitimately good until he changes his mindset. Same with Kouryuu. Same with Connor, who's probably too immature at this point and isn't blessed with the natural talent of a dude like Colbol. If you aren't blessed with that natural talent, the game is mental, and if you don't figure it out you're never going to reach your true ceiling.
The people with that talent all have the mental part down. Do you ever see Lucky when he's playing? Calm as a cucumber, doesn't give a **** about nothing, is never rattled. Do you see that in Connor? In SDR? In Kouryuu? It's not an accident. I will guarantee you six months from now Kouryuu and SDR are still in the same place where they are now -- above-average but not good. It's easy to get decent, to become above-average at this game, but it's incredibly hard to become good.
I know this because I've been through it. I've gone from absolute scrub to above-average player. But above-average is not the same as good, not by a long shot, and if you get satisfied just because you became above-average and get arrogant over it, then you will never become good. Come on Kira, you should know this. You've gone through the same journey, even if you did miss a few lessons along the way.
Whether it was a fluke or not, if you had to play MacD again I guarantee you would have to try your *** off to win despite you being "the only person in socal who makes Lucky try"
I'm not going to take the time to comment on your logic, it's just you saying "less is more" and "thanks for proving my point" in places where it doesn't even work to make yourself look like you're in the right, and then giving examples that really don't add to your argument.
I can break it down for you at the very basic level at any point you want me to. I am not off base in the slightest, and the great part is that even if you don't believe me, the future will prove everything. I have a lot of patience.
Sometimes you are too stubborn to give credit to other viewpoints.
Every time we have one of these little debates it strikes me just how little you know me, but how well you think you do. The thing is is that I don't pretend like I know you really well, but you always pretend like you know me really well. Emil does the same thing, in fact, and it's probably the largest reason why I give off the vibe that I don't give your viewpoint any credit -- not because I don't, but because I don't give a **** if you think I don't, and in fact probably prefer you to think that.
But anyway, I'm a writer. One of the most important things you learn early on is to always have a section that touches on, analyzes and refutes (if possible) the opposing viewpoint. It's my job to give credit to other viewpoints, dude. I do it for a living. But if it's logically unsound, I'm going to rip it to shreds and I'm not going to give you a "nice try" in the process. This ain't horseshoe ***** -- I don't care if you're close but still wrong.
Oh, and the point of the D.P. and Dark Mike thing wasn't that they specifically would do it. It's that Norcal has a litany of players on that same level to the point that one or more of them would, if for no other reason than style differences. No one in Socal below the Lucky level is good enough to overcome the style differences OOS has.
I don't think you know what "man up, homie" means.
Why does it matter that there was pressure on lovage? There should be, seeing how different regions stack up vs one another is a part of the competition.
Think about it a little harder dog. One, Lovage is a guy who rarely feels pressure. Two, he admitted to me that he felt more pressure than normal because he was ranked 4th in SoCal, which is deceiving in regards to his actual skill level from a historically powerhouse region.
I like being thought of as a good player with determination, but this undermines the first point that you made about me beating everybody at SCSA/mango juice.
