So Yesterday at Work...

[TigerWoods]

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So yesterday at work... I was asigned to be the greeter. Basically, I tell people what's on sale and do some small talk with the customers that walk in. Then...

Two really good looking men walked in holding hands.

Essentially, half of the entire store stopped and stared at them. A woman to the left covered the eyes of her child. Some looked mortified, others looked worried, and I looked at them and smiled and then stared at the ground.

They went about their business looking for things to wear. I helped them pick out clothes that'd look nice. They paid for their stuff and before they left, one of them looked at me and said "Don't hide" with a smile and winked.

As they walked out the door, I could've sworn my jaw was half open; They just walked in while holding hands, went about their business, and left without any shame. Those words felt like sword through my guts. They just did something I never had the courage to do in the past. They even read my facial expression correctly and pinpointed my feelings about the whole situation.

At this point I felt a little sad that I still felt like I couldn't do what they did. Heck, I'm still afraid of being "out." It may seem like such a simple, pointless task... but at times it feels like the hardest thing to get over.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Wow those guys owned you.

 

[TigerWoods]

Wow those guys owned you.

In the end, I still made comission from selling them stuff. So I think I OWNED them.

Ok on a serious note yeah they did. I was just plain awestruck at what just happened. It was almost as if the guy read my mind and told me what I needed to do.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Sounds like a message from God, saying that you should help other gay people open up.


But that's just how I'd interpret it.

 

[Jam Stunna]

Don't beat yourself up for having fear about coming out. The reaction that those two gentlemen received pretty much shows you that there's still an absurd amount of prejudice (a mother covering her child's eyes? Really?)

At the same time, draw inspiration and strength from their actions and their words. They wanted to encourage you, not embarrass you. Don't feel like you need to make some kind of bold statement like they have; they're ready to make that statement. Have you told anyone? Telling people that you can trust and receiving their support can help you build confidence to come out at some point in the future.

As for them reading your mind, maybe they just have really, REALLY good gaydar!

 

[TigerWoods]

Well yeah they probably have a really good gaydar hahaha. I'm not obvious, but I try to "be seen without being seen" if you catch what I'm saying. I wouldn't have thought the two men were gay at all if they weren't holding each other's hands.

I've been on the fence about telling my best friends. I know for a fact they wont really care, but it's easier to do in theory than in person. As for who I've told... I haven't told anyone except this website and some other people that are way to far away from me to have any major impact on my life.

 

[Jam Stunna]

Either way, there's no rush. Come out when it's right for you. My brother was pretty deep in the closet his entire life, and he didn't come out to me until this year (he was 20 when he told me). We live in a place where being a gay male is probably the worst thing you can be, so it makes total sense to me that he waited until he moved away to come out.

 

[TigerWoods]

Ahh. I got what you're saying. The reason why I'm pushing for it to go foward with it is that a good friend of mine told me I'm wasting the best years of my life where I could be having fun with like minded people. I'm still young... I wont be for too much longer you know?

 

[Jam Stunna]

Well, you're friend is right that you could be having fun with like-minded people right now, but how old are you? I suspect that "the best years of your life" haven't even begun yet.

 

[TigerWoods]

Meh. I'm around 20.

 

[Jam Stunna]

Yeah, 20 is barely the beginning, much less the end.

 

[TigerWoods]

Regardless of whether or not that's the case... I still do feel like I'm wasting my time not being who I am... constantly paranoid people will find out.

 

[Jim Morrison]

It's just like homework. Do it early and get it over with and funk the rest of the day.

 

[rhan]

If love is a crime then maybe everyone should burn when 2012 comes around.

 

[Pikaville]

That's so weird. I can imagine you standing there stunned beyond belief!

Just remember man, when the time comes we got each other no matter what.

It's very scary yes, but it will be so worth it.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Don't you just love ignorance in this world?

But in being serious right now, just come out when it feels right to you, fack everyone else dude If your gay, your gay for as long your accept yourself as a person and you are okay with yourself.

 

[mzink*]

Try not to worry so much about it, everybody has parts of who they are that they have not accepted yet or will even face. Being comfortable with who you really are can be a step by step process, it'll happen with time I think. Everybody hits different stages at different times, and circumstances may have an affect as well. Someone with a lot of support from friends and family will probably have a lot more confidence with who they are than someone that doesn't have that kind of reassurance or even feels rejection. Maybe when the people close to you support you, it will strengthen you against the strangers that might judge you.

 

[SuSa]

People are still uncomfortable with homosexuals in this day and age?

=|

Our society is far to focused on the thoughts of others - instead of doing what would make you happiest you worry about what Mr. Joebob that you'll probably never see in your life again thinks of you at that point in time.

Then again, maybe that's because I'm inconsiderate of the feelings of others and could really give a **** what anyone thinks about me because their opinion is likely garbage anyways. *shrugs*

Quit worrying about what society thinks and just be yourself.

 

[El Nino]

TigerWoods, my only advice is that if you're waiting for the right moment by looking to see if other people are ready, that moment isn't going to come. The right moment depends on you.

Also, it's easier to hide when you're younger. When you're older, people are going to start asking questions. In your late twenties, it may just be teasing. But in your thirties, that's going to turn into more serious questioning with a hint of concern. In your forties, they've probably already figured it out but are either in denial or waiting for you to say it yourself.

A friend of mine is dating an older guy in his forties. The older guy only just recently came out to his best friend. The night it happened, his friend completely shut down. A day later, his friend came to terms with it and said that he only wished he had known earlier.

It was probably a very scary moment for that guy because this is his best friend since childhood. Having known each other for four decades, that's a lot to put on the line. In this case, he had some help because his best friend's wife sort of knew, and she probably had a hand in helping her husband accept his friend.

Of course, it doesn't always end up that way. You just have to brace yourself. It can go either way, and sometimes people can surprise you in a good way. (He hadn't expected his friend to be accepting mainly because they had talked about the controversy around same-sex marriage and his friend was strongly against it. Who knows, maybe he's for it now.)

But I hope, whether you're out or not, it doesn't stop you from seeking company if you want it. It doesn't have to be a relationship, but being around people who have been through the same thing might help you.

As for them reading your mind, maybe they just have really, REALLY good gaydar!

Better than mine. I didn't know Tiger was gay. (How many homos are on this freakin' site, anyway?)

People are still uncomfortable with homosexuals in this day and age?

Homosexuality is still considered a mental illness in China. There was a bill to ban homosexuality in Uganda and make the act punishable by death (last I heard it had stalled in the legislative process). A couple years back, 60 or so gay men were lynched in Iraq. There's been an alarming number of reports of "corrective" **** of lesbians in South Africa.

"Uncomfortable" is one way to describe it, I guess.

 

[Teran]

I don't see why everyone's so shocked and saying things like "in this day and age".

Our parents were still alive when homosexuality was deemed reprehensible and vile, so like, do you really think the world's going to have changed their view overnight? In the tides of human history, the amount of time homosexuality has been deemed "acceptable" by society is miniscule.

Also Nino, Tiger is pretty good with keeping "company", but he's a bloody jock so I guess he feels uncomfortable being out. The only reason I came out was because my ego and nonchalance reached fever pitch so heh.

One step at a time.

Also you guys all having terrible gaydar is amazing, but then again you never develop a skill you don't need right? Also SWF is the gayest gaming forum like ever, well apart from GayGamer, but that site is an abomination.

 

[JosefMiller]

But in being serious right now, just come out when it feels right to you, fack everyone else dude If your gay, your gay for as long your accept yourself as a person and you are okay with yourself.
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[TigerWoods]

Don't you just love ignorance in this world?

But in being serious right now, just come out when it feels right to you, fack everyone else dude If your gay, your gay for as long your accept yourself as a person and you are okay with yourself.

Haha thanks for the advice

Try not to worry so much about it, everybody has parts of who they are that they have not accepted yet or will even face. Being comfortable with who you really are can be a step by step process, it'll happen with time I think. Everybody hits different stages at different times, and circumstances may have an affect as well. Someone with a lot of support from friends and family will probably have a lot more confidence with who they are than someone that doesn't have that kind of reassurance or even feels rejection. Maybe when the people close to you support you, it will strengthen you against the strangers that might judge you.

I have plenty of very good gay friends who know about me... just all of them live far away. I should try sometime to get to the local gays...

People are still uncomfortable with homosexuals in this day and age?

=|

Our society is far to focused on the thoughts of others - instead of doing what would make you happiest you worry about what Mr. Joebob that you'll probably never see in your life again thinks of you at that point in time.

Then again, maybe that's because I'm inconsiderate of the feelings of others and could really give a **** what anyone thinks about me because their opinion is likely garbage anyways. *shrugs*

Quit worrying about what society thinks and just be yourself.

Ehh point there man

TigerWoods, my only advice is that if you're waiting for the right moment by looking to see if other people are ready, that moment isn't going to come. The right moment depends on you.

Also, it's easier to hide when you're younger. When you're older, people are going to start asking questions. In your late twenties, it may just be teasing. But in your thirties, that's going to turn into more serious questioning with a hint of concern. In your forties, they've probably already figured it out but are either in denial or waiting for you to say it yourself.

A friend of mine is dating an older guy in his forties. The older guy only just recently came out to his best friend. The night it happened, his friend completely shut down. A day later, his friend came to terms with it and said that he only wished he had known earlier.

It was probably a very scary moment for that guy because this is his best friend since childhood. Having known each other for four decades, that's a lot to put on the line. In this case, he had some help because his best friend's wife sort of knew, and she probably had a hand in helping her husband accept his friend.

Of course, it doesn't always end up that way. You just have to brace yourself. It can go either way, and sometimes people can surprise you in a good way. (He hadn't expected his friend to be accepting mainly because they had talked about the controversy around same-sex marriage and his friend was strongly against it. Who knows, maybe he's for it now.)

But I hope, whether you're out or not, it doesn't stop you from seeking company if you want it. It doesn't have to be a relationship, but being around people who have been through the same thing might help you.

See Response to Teran

Better than mine. I didn't know Tiger was gay. (How many homos are on this freakin' site, anyway?)

Hahaha. Besides the whole enjoying men thing... I'm really not that "gay." I hate rainbows, shopping, fashion shows, cutting hair, Cher, etc. etc.

Oh and as Teran said, there are TONS of LBGT members here. Possibly more than there are in the actual group... from what my gaydar says anyway .

Homosexuality is still considered a mental illness in China. There was a bill to ban homosexuality in Uganda and make the act punishable by death (last I heard it had stalled in the legislative process). A couple years back, 60 or so gay men were lynched in Iraq. There's been an alarming number of reports of "corrective" **** of lesbians in South Africa.

"Uncomfortable" is one way to describe it, I guess.

I guess at least I don't have to really worry about getting killed...

I don't see why everyone's so shocked and saying things like "in this day and age".

Our parents were still alive when homosexuality was deemed reprehensible and vile, so like, do you really think the world's going to have changed their view overnight? In the tides of human history, the amount of time homosexuality has been deemed "acceptable" by society is miniscule.

Also Nino, Tiger is pretty good with keeping "company", but he's a bloody jock so I guess he feels uncomfortable being out. The only reason I came out was because my ego and nonchalance reached fever pitch so heh.

One step at a time.

Also you guys all having terrible gaydar is amazing, but then again you never develop a skill you don't need right? Also SWF is the gayest gaming forum like ever, well apart from GayGamer, but that site is an abomination.

Lmao. Nino, Teran pretty much hit the nail on the head. I'm a bit nervous when it comes to coming out. Almost like my credibility will be damaged or something... but that's just me being irrational.

And yes. This place has a lot of gays.

Oh and Gaygamer scares the hell out of me. I never even registered after looking at that site.

Just eww no.

 

[El Nino]

Also SWF is the gayest gaming forum like ever, well apart from GayGamer, but that site is an abomination.

Oh and Gaygamer scares the hell out of me. I never even registered after looking at that site.

Just eww no.

Lol. GayGamer. I haven't been there in a long time. What was the point of that site again?

My "at work" story:

One day, while working at my old department, I hear the click-click-click of high heels. It's a manufacturing facility, so I'm surprised a woman would be wearing heels. I turn around, but I don't see a female. It's one of the male inspectors. He's all, "Hello ^_^." I'm like, "Hey." I look down. His jeans pretty much cover his shoes. So I think, "Maybe he's wearing dress shoes?" Then he pivots on his heel, and I can see his shoes under the jeans.

Guy had on high heels. But they weren't just heels. They were these vicious-looking stilettos, like the kind that could take out a person's eye.

For Halloween, he showed up in this drag get-up. I was like, "Nice costume." And he was all, "Thanks! ^_^"

Thirty seconds after that exchange, I wondered if he was...

/gaydar fail

 

[TigerWoods]

Lol. GayGamer. I haven't been there in a long time. What was the point of that site again?

My "at work" story:

One day, while working at my old department, I hear the click-click-click of high heels. It's a manufacturing facility, so I'm surprised a woman would be wearing heels. I turn around, but I don't see a female. It's one of the male inspectors. He's all, "Hello ^_^." I'm like, "Hey." I look down. His jeans pretty much cover his shoes. So I think, "Maybe he's wearing dress shoes?" Then he pivots on his heel, and I can see his shoes under the jeans.

Guy had on high heels. But they weren't just heels. They were these vicious-looking stilettos, like the kind that could take out a person's eye.

For Halloween, he showed up in this drag get-up. I was like, "Nice costume." And he was all, "Thanks! ^_^"

Thirty seconds after that exchange, I wondered if he was...

/gaydar fail

Hahahhahaha. Oh dear that's hilaroius.

My gaydar fails a lot too haha. I thought my current boyfriend was straight for about 4 years...

The conversation went something like this:

Me: So yeah I was killing this guy in MW2
Aidan: Noicee
Aidan: This guy is cute...
Me: lolwut?
Aidan: I didn't mean to say that...
Me: lolwut??
Aidan: uhh
Me: Yeah hes kinda cute actually
Aidan: wat...
Me: Wut...

 

[Jam Stunna]

Better than mine. I didn't know Tiger was gay. (How many homos are on this freakin' site, anyway?)

TOO MANY

 

[TigerWoods]

We're going to take over America and infect everyone with Thagey Fever.

Slowly they will all... turn... into one of us.

All we need is for that gay marriage bill to pass and we shall make society crumble before our feet.

 

[Teran]

TOO MANY

I dunno, if the gays, blacks, and jews of SWF rose up, we might be able to TOPPLE THE MAN.

Also, society doesn't need gays to make it crumble, it just needs economic crisis, German speeches, and "international financiers"

 

[Exceladon City]

I don't see why everyone's so shocked and saying things like "in this day and age".

Our parents were still alive when homosexuality was deemed reprehensible and vile, so like, do you really think the world's going to have changed their view overnight? In the tides of human history, the amount of time homosexuality has been deemed "acceptable" by society is miniscule.

Also Nino, Tiger is pretty good with keeping "company", but he's a bloody jock so I guess he feels uncomfortable being out. The only reason I came out was because my ego and nonchalance reached fever pitch so heh.

One step at a time.

Also you guys all having terrible gaydar is amazing, but then again you never develop a skill you don't need right? Also SWF is the gayest gaming forum like ever, well apart from GayGamer, but that site is an abomination.

Lol GayGamer. I periodically go on to find other gay gamers and such around my area but the only ones that are in my area happen to be the ones I told about the site. Everyone else is kinda stuck up anyways...

I work at Abercrombie and Fitch, (trust me, I'm not the stereotypical gay) and I've never muttered a word about me being gay. It wouldn't matter anyway, like half of the staff are gay males. I kinda got lucky and never caught any flak for being gay at any of my past jobs. I guess it's because I'm just the atypical chauvinistic douchebag who objectifies men.

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I'd do that for the lulz.

 

[Fuelbi]

Damn those guys in the OP...

Though wtf? That lady has major problems if she's covering the eyes of her child from two gay people

 

[TigerWoods]

Sh*t happens man. I'm annoyed yet not about it.

I've seen way worse done... at least she wasn't violent.

 

[Fuelbi]

But still, that's a pretty backwards way of thinking if you don't even let your kid look at a pair of men holding hands

 

[Asdioh]

Cool blog yo.

People need to stop caring about peoples sexuality @_@

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I can't believe how much fun it is to troll some people IRL by pretending to be a bit gay.

Also why is Merkuri not in this thread blowing his guts out with anger?

 

[Exceladon City]

I can't believe how much fun it is to troll some people IRL by pretending to be a bit gay.

Also why is Merkuri not in this thread blowing his guts out with anger?

Who is Merkuri?

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

YOU DON'T KNOW?

 

[Pink Reaper]

So i saw this threads title, saw that it was made by Tiger Woods and assumed the first line would be "I was ****ing like 8 chicks"

I am dissapoint.

 

[Exceladon City]

YOU DON'T KNOW?

What is wrong with you, bro?

Actually, I don't know.

fix't

 

[Master Xanthan]

Why would a woman cover her child's eyes? The kid is probably too young to understand what any kind of sexuality is.

 

[Pikaville]

Plus it's not like gays are gonna go away when the kid gets older so he/she will never know.

Silly really.