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So... why do so many Ness users hate Lucas?

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xoxokev

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More precisely, it's been 8 months and 1 day since the last post. Cool. Anyone bored enough to count the hours/minutes?
 

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Nah to lazy to count minutes. I don't get why do people keep bumping up these topics.
 

Johnny Pteran

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Lucas' hair is awesome. It's too bad that his moves are so annoying and his smashes are a bit on the cheap side.

I hate Lucas because he's annoying as f**k to fight, and because Ness in my opinion just takes more skill to use.
 

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a... well please forgive me but i don't like the hate for lucas or ness since they have to past for exp so hard and many people just judge for the outside and not for the inside so please don't hate both they really past for a very hard exp ...ok
 

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Yes because really:

A: Ninten should've been in instead of Ness in the first place.

B: Lucas looks like Jimmy Neutron.
 

paper otavio

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Yes because really:

A: Ninten should've been in instead of Ness in the first place.
B-but EB had Porky Means Business and that music > most of M1's songs.
Also, just because Ninten was the first character, doesn't mean he is more deserving than any of the other ones....Heck, if another Mother character were to be in another SSB, I would choose Porky or Masked Man any day. :)
 

PKNintendo

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I only hated lucas because he was a stranger to me. now that i beat mother 3 he is awesome and i love him
Opposite.

Before Mother 3, I thought Brawl Lucas was the Snizz. But now, compared to Mother 3 Lucas, Brawl Lucas doesn't hold a candle to him.
 

Gaussis

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I never really did hate Lucas. Rather, I hated the people promoting him as the better Ness. But enough of Lucas vs Ness. We should have some sort of armistice sort of thing stickied so that these kinds of comparison posts won't keep appearing. Although, this one is a rather old one.
 

Neon Ness

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I never really did hate Lucas. Rather, I hated the people promoting him as the better Ness. But enough of Lucas vs Ness. We should have some sort of armistice sort of thing stickied so that these kinds of comparison posts won't keep appearing. Although, this one is a rather old one.
Agreed. I don't think the Ness community hates Lucases. We just hate when people with limited experience of the two jump to conclusions and say Lucas is better. "OMGee! Luewcuss is liek, his donw and up sm4shes r stongur, and his Up Spezhul goes farther and stuffs when Ne55 hits herself wit pK Lightneng she only goez half the dizt4nc3."

Unfortunately, I don't think an armistice sticky would reach the people it needed to... Some people will just go on thinking they know everything... But it couldn't hurt, I guess.
 

Gaussis

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I can imagine us still getting comparison threads in the future, so we need some sign on this and the Lucas boards.
 

Nessman

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Whether u like either is probably wether or not u prefer ground or air fighting...ness is better at air, lucas is mostly better grounded.
 

Nessman

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People just jump to conclusions and say new is better too...so theres that
 

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I "like" Ness as a character. I just prefer to play Lucas. I guess this is from the opposite end of the spectrum but as a Lucas player seeing this thread... this is crazy. They're both adorable psychic children. Lucas just happens to have cool hair and a pet snake and Ness has a yo-yo. No need to fight.
 

paper otavio

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I guess I can learn to like Brawl Lucas.......maybe....
I don't get why I like Mother 3 more than EB and still prefer Ness 100 times more in Brawl and the Mother series......
 

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Ok the real reason I dislike him is because of the 'up until now' crap. You needed to be there ya see. I made on the same day as that update a 'Ness Support Thread' and the backlash we got from Lucas and Claus fans... heh. The day Ness was leaked was awesome.
 

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Ness beats up hippies and steals cookies from them.

Also Lucas is the only character on the roster I actually cannot play. I am too far adjusted to Ness' PKT through muscle memory and any time I try to recover with Lucas it results in hilarious SD's.
 

Neon Ness

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Ness beats up hippies and steals cookies from them.

Also Lucas is the only character on the roster I actually cannot play. I am too far adjusted to Ness' PKT through muscle memory and any time I try to recover with Lucas it results in hilarious SD's.
That's why you act like a crazy and memorize the timing for both of 'em.
 

Gaussis

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No way! Spinning Lucas FTW.

I think you need to fix it up just a little bit, and you have your Lucas.
 

Neon Ness

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No way! Spinning Lucas FTW.

I think you need to fix it up just a little bit, and you have your Lucas.
Hm? Oh, I didn't make it. :chuckle: xoxokev posted a link in the Moar Hyper Ness Thread where there's a bunch of 'em.
 

Phobandit

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IMO Kumatora or Duster should have been in if anyone from Mother 3... Kumatora since she would be less like a clone and Duster because eh has a tickle feather and doesnt afraid of anything :3
 

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IMO Kumatora or Duster should have been in if anyone from Mother 3... Kumatora since she would be less like a clone and Duster because eh has a tickle feather and doesnt afraid of anything :3
Lucas is a Luigi clone. He's got PK Thunder, Fire and his Flash is replaced with Freeze and a PSI Magnet. He had a stick in the Mother 3 game and so there's not much you could do there. However, his up smash, down smash, fair, bair and dair are completely different than Ness'. If anything, Kumatora would be no different than Lucas if you think about it. Duster on the other hand would probably have his own move set. Either way, neither of those characters were the main character like Lucas, though Lucas didn't really appear up until later in the game. Not as a playable character anyway.
 

Neon Ness

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Porky > All.
Oh realleh?


I think this thread can die now. After all, we've been trying to avoid discussions such as these. Plus, it's just turning into yet another general chat thread. We already have like 4.
 

Neon Ness

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It will never die, so long as I draw breath.



But this thread should.
 

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I like them both, I've grown predictable with ness, so I often switch to lucas. I've gotten pretty great with both, but when i swtich between the two there's a lot of talent lost in the transaction. There's a lot of things to take into consideration, besides developing your own style with the character- to make them your own.
 
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