Vex Kasrani
Smash Master
Pit, or atleast I'll try.
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So I guess ICs are "S Tier" now :) / :( ?
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kackamee
Smash Master
Pit vs. IC's isn't that bad. O: But you have to ledge camp.
Vex Kasrani
Smash Master
Yes, which is normally banned <_<
With ledge grab rules, the matchup is very unsafe for Pit imo.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
Sieguest
Smash Master
Smoom be trollin wit dat duck.
Vex doing what he needs to do to succeed in smash.
I got glasses today. o.o
Vex doing what he needs to do to succeed in smash.
I got glasses today. o.o
Vex Kasrani
Smash Master
You wasted 8 minutes on one match vs an awful Olimar, awesome.
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
Smoom loves the irony, obv.
Sieguest
Smash Master
lol time out. xD three stocks xD
Teh Future
Smash Master
I timed out a spamus with jigglypuff.
:D
also footstool combos do not work.
simple as dat. dont try them lol.
unless you are off the ledge I guess but with ics that usually results in one of them missing and then you die.
cool character
:D
also footstool combos do not work.
simple as dat. dont try them lol.
unless you are off the ledge I guess but with ics that usually results in one of them missing and then you die.
cool character
lain
Smash Master
I am aware that you can buffer a jump after the uair at low-mid% to ONLY make nana jump (and footstool), but doing it that way is MUCH more difficult and unreliable. Most of the time Nana will just jump since she wasn't close enough. However, if you uair into someone, and follow their di either left or right and mash jump, you almost ALWAYS get the footstool using both climbers.
Yes, the desynced nana one is like 10000x better, but there's no way afaik to reliably do it.
I find the best way is to just do the footstool, and then get one of the climbers to do a sideb into the footstooled opponent, however I don't know how to make ONLY one of them do it 100% of the time.
Also, low-mid%, if you uair someone through a platform, desync land with nana blizzard, goes into grab most of the time. This works if you hit them with the middleish part of your IC's during the uair hitbox, because then they'll be hitstun long enough and close enough to you for the blizzard to catch them right afterwards.
If you hit them with like the tip of your hammer or top of whatever, then they're that much more further from you, allowing more time to recover from hitstun before falling into a blizzard or etc.
Yes, the desynced nana one is like 10000x better, but there's no way afaik to reliably do it.
I find the best way is to just do the footstool, and then get one of the climbers to do a sideb into the footstooled opponent, however I don't know how to make ONLY one of them do it 100% of the time.
Also, low-mid%, if you uair someone through a platform, desync land with nana blizzard, goes into grab most of the time. This works if you hit them with the middleish part of your IC's during the uair hitbox, because then they'll be hitstun long enough and close enough to you for the blizzard to catch them right afterwards.
If you hit them with like the tip of your hammer or top of whatever, then they're that much more further from you, allowing more time to recover from hitstun before falling into a blizzard or etc.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
who are you again?
thank you.
lain
Smash Master
Also, what is GFSC? grab footstool combo? lol
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
Lain, get skype nagger.
And on the uair footstool, you can reliably get nana to footstool if you buffer it in like a normal hitstun desynch.
And on the uair footstool, you can reliably get nana to footstool if you buffer it in like a normal hitstun desynch.
GimR
GimR, Co-Founder of VGBootCamp
lol grounded foot stool combo
00-Zero
Smash Journeyman
GroundedFootStoolCombo(ing)
Ope, gimr you're one sly ninja.
Ope, gimr you're one sly ninja.
GimR
GimR, Co-Founder of VGBootCamp
Vex Kasrani
Smash Master
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
i just got done watching that match. it was super close. that stage is definitely a CP for pit. so is halberd to some extent. you're only real hope is to win the first match and then if they beat you second you CP one of those (brinstar may work too?) and demolish there. though, as GIMR showed, ICs can still play well on those stages too, so it really comes down to *sigh* run away, shoot arrows, and try to gimp/time them out. this is a dumb game....
00-Zero
Smash Journeyman
Haha probably a good edit vex XP
I kinda like superjail though. So much violence in an animated show you can't help but like it lmao
I kinda like superjail though. So much violence in an animated show you can't help but like it lmao
Vex Kasrani
Smash Master
I'm really bad vs IC's lol.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
kill nana. shoot arrows/run away from sopo to build damage. try to gimp, cover both sides to avoid roll -> punish. our ring will reflect blizzard/ice blocks, but it has a lot of lag. arrows can be stopped by well timed ice blocks as well as get stopped by shields. you can try mixing up your arrow trajectory to screw with PSing. shield can work as a less-laggy ring for reflecting, but it still leaves you pretty open.
pretty much, if you split them up, go for nana. once nana is dead, just play safe/don't rush in/wait for a mistake.
How does pit kill nana again?
Vex Kasrani
Smash Master
Gadiel_VaStar
Smash Champion
ICs are really dumb. I have trouble in this matchup myself. All I do is glide back and forth and shoot arrows. Then space really well w/ Fairs and full-hopped Dairs. I mean that's all I've seen Masashi do.
Vex Kasrani
Smash Master
It's all you can safely do, if you manage to land that upair, you can probably kill nana off from the seperation, but good luck landing it.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
details. minor details.
Matchup changing details XD
Aglow
Smash Journeyman
I too have found the uair to single footstool unreliable, but the u-air to blizzard to grab works quite nicely as long as you upair with the ic's middrift. Practicing these things you mentioned really expanded my game...I realized that I haven't been doing hitlag desynchs, and they help a lot. I am getting really slick at ftilt-iceblock-grab...it often gets me a grab, even if they do tech/don't trip.
Thank you lain.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
Aglow
Smash Journeyman
Watch less TV, please.
But watch more Inception. It was elegant beyond belief.
But watch more Inception. It was elegant beyond belief.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
i'm going to see it with a date tomorrow. should be fun. movie has been hyped by everybody thats seen it so far...
the last airbender on the other hand.... lol
the last airbender on the other hand.... lol
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
Jem uses them and he says that they make his eyes feel way better
Zerostar (diddy kong from my state) also uses them and he says that they make it so he can see more precise movement or something
iono though, they dont let me wear their glasses
Zerostar (diddy kong from my state) also uses them and he says that they make it so he can see more precise movement or something
iono though, they dont let me wear their glasses
Teh Future
Smash Master
I didn't know inception was out yet D:
looks aaamazing though, def need to see it.
all the movies that director has made so far have been iiiiiincredible (don't remember his name right now lol)
looks aaamazing though, def need to see it.
all the movies that director has made so far have been iiiiiincredible (don't remember his name right now lol)
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
Inception is amazing! It's like the matrix meets ocean's 11.