yellowroy
Smash Ace
I guess I'll try that next time I play vs Falco,
Can you hold jab on Falco's Phantasm?
Can you hold jab on Falco's Phantasm?
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Snake Q&A
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Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
I'm not certain but I think it will, I generally grab Falco's phantasm (I'm a grab *****)
yellowroy
Smash Ace
Oh grabs are too good.
How do you play the Sonic matchup?
It is real annoying.
How do you play the Sonic matchup?
It is real annoying.
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
I'm not too experienced with that matchup, but I'll try to help
they try to mindgame you the whole time because everything of yours > everything of theirs
I try to leave lots of mines and nades around to limit their running around
once you manage to get in close, if you can grab them before they run away its always a great option, jab and ftilt are faster than most of his moves and will clank or just straight go through them, utilt stops any aerial approach, he can get by your camping, so keeping on the move works well here, and past 30ish, don't utilt if you can help it so it can refresh for a kill later
oh, and watch out for his grab game, its dangerous, SDI down his downthrow and tech, you'll be able to attack him before the dthrow animation even ends (free ftilt)
they try to mindgame you the whole time because everything of yours > everything of theirs
I try to leave lots of mines and nades around to limit their running around
once you manage to get in close, if you can grab them before they run away its always a great option, jab and ftilt are faster than most of his moves and will clank or just straight go through them, utilt stops any aerial approach, he can get by your camping, so keeping on the move works well here, and past 30ish, don't utilt if you can help it so it can refresh for a kill later
oh, and watch out for his grab game, its dangerous, SDI down his downthrow and tech, you'll be able to attack him before the dthrow animation even ends (free ftilt)
SuSa
Banned via Administration
If he SH and spins, don't expect him to follow up if he's within a 'small launch' distance! They can shield cancel that upon the ground, so if they see you shield they do so and grab you.
If he's far away and charging, try to get him with a well cooked grenade.
Leaves TONS of mines and C4 (OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STAGE) and just camp him. Sonic has speed, but Snake can outcamp him even with that speed.
NEVER approach the Sonic unless he's off stage, or already used his spring.
Only use Utilt if you KNOW it will kill.
Pivot grab A LOT to punish any and all missed dairs, or mis-timed/spaced aerials.
Also Sonic can be pretty easy to stick in a lot of cases... >.>
If he's far away and charging, try to get him with a well cooked grenade.
Leaves TONS of mines and C4 (OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STAGE) and just camp him. Sonic has speed, but Snake can outcamp him even with that speed.
NEVER approach the Sonic unless he's off stage, or already used his spring.
Only use Utilt if you KNOW it will kill.
Pivot grab A LOT to punish any and all missed dairs, or mis-timed/spaced aerials.
Also Sonic can be pretty easy to stick in a lot of cases... >.>
yellowroy
Smash Ace
Opposite side of the stage means his opposite or my opposite? Thanks you two it gave me lots of things on Sonic.
Ken Neth
Smash Champion
LOL, the sonic match-up. This is probably the one matchup that I have the most experience with. I play with X on a regular basis who is considered one of the top sonics- I even beat him in two sets of five in a tourney today 
Anyways, I'm exhausted, and I have to drive to vegas tomorrow for SK92's tourney. So I won't be able to help out with this matchup till after the weekend.
Anyways, I'm exhausted, and I have to drive to vegas tomorrow for SK92's tourney. So I won't be able to help out with this matchup till after the weekend.
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
because he asked :D
Vorguen
Smash Champion
Vegas is having a tournament? I had an invitation to spend my Spring Break there, I could be there right now but I declined. >.<
IxxI
Smash Fence
Dang you college students, having freedom and whatnot.
hdrevolution123
Smash Ace
Proper Glide Toss
This is a quick question for quick answer thread. My quick question is how do you glide toss PROPERLY or is there some comprehensive guide on it?
Thx
This is a quick question for quick answer thread. My quick question is how do you glide toss PROPERLY or is there some comprehensive guide on it?
Thx
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
@Ixxi: college is too good
HD: Snake basically has no glide toss, he goes nowhere, learn to DACIT or something, or, y'know, forget about it :D
but to answer your question, I just roll and hit the c-stick at nearly the same time
HD: Snake basically has no glide toss, he goes nowhere, learn to DACIT or something, or, y'know, forget about it :D
but to answer your question, I just roll and hit the c-stick at nearly the same time
xxCANDYxx
Smash Lord
jump cancel throws......like suppose you wanted to glide toss backwards while throwing forward...with snake just run backwards....and as soon as u wanna throw it press jump then IMMEDIETLY press A and the other direction
misterpimp5757
Smash Ace
are u kiddin me syx???
snakes glide toss is top TIERZ!!
anyways.
which way to DI out of mk's tornado and drill? (if ur caught in like the middle of the drill and samething for the tornado)
snakes glide toss is top TIERZ!!
anyways.
which way to DI out of mk's tornado and drill? (if ur caught in like the middle of the drill and samething for the tornado)
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Snake has 2 good directions to glide toss in.
One of those directions is down.
Extra space > ftilt ftw
Vorguen
Smash Champion
Seriously just grenade counter nados.
misterpimp5757
Smash Ace
i guess no one wants to answer my Q? @_@.....lol.
Vorguen
Smash Champion
I guess I tried to. It's hard to DI out of, and Snake is not good at DI'ing either. If you DI up and get out of it, you can try to hop and then drop a C4 and hopefully blow him up. I'm not sure what the best is, I try to avoid getting nado'd at all costs but if you do well, there are several options.
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
I SDI up out of the whorenado and jump (if it wasn't hit by a nade upon startup)
I DI whichever way is the opposite way to get out of the drill
those seem to work for me
@Candy, I didn't know Snake had a good JC throw, thanks XD
I DI whichever way is the opposite way to get out of the drill
those seem to work for me
@Candy, I didn't know Snake had a good JC throw, thanks XD
i asked this a while ago and got kinda ignored...
which way do you sdi to get out of diddy's fsmash? at what %?
which way do you sdi to get out of diddy's fsmash? at what %?
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
first hit has set knockback so % doesn't matter
I DI diagonally away and usually jump away
I DI diagonally away and usually jump away
stealth3654
Smash Lord
The Sheik boards are discussing the Snake match-up here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=226389. Please contribute anything that you would like to share.
Thanks.
Thanks
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Vorguen
Smash Champion
@ Diddy's F-smash
if you are close to his body, DI through him. If you are far away from his body, DI away and out of him.
if you are close to his body, DI through him. If you are far away from his body, DI away and out of him.
IxxI
Smash Fence
I like to DI up...
misterpimp5757
Smash Ace
counter pick against olimar and link?
TwentyTwo
Smash Ace
You could pick Frigate for both of them, the lack of a left side during the first transformation can really mess them up. You could also take Olimar to RC.
noahbaby94
Smash Cadet
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Uhhgg... I've got problems with people spamming moves what is the best way to deal with din's fire I try to jump to her but then I get usmashed and pwned.
Also what should I use from the air to ground transition.
Also what should I use from the air to ground transition.
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
Shield dins fire...
Mortar slide to close the distance, but not into her smashes.
Toss nades at her, you should be able to outcamp or at least camp evenly with here.
As far as getting to the ground.. Mix some stuff up. Hold a grenade, aerial as you land, airdodge as you land, drop a mine jump and detonate then fall through the safe zone created... This is one of the only areas that Snake doesn't do well in, just find how your opponent keeps you up there and use a counter to that.
Personally, I like to do a backwards grenade soft-toss thing, and jump and drop a mine...
Mortar slide to close the distance, but not into her smashes.
Toss nades at her, you should be able to outcamp or at least camp evenly with here.
As far as getting to the ground.. Mix some stuff up. Hold a grenade, aerial as you land, airdodge as you land, drop a mine jump and detonate then fall through the safe zone created... This is one of the only areas that Snake doesn't do well in, just find how your opponent keeps you up there and use a counter to that.
Personally, I like to do a backwards grenade soft-toss thing, and jump and drop a mine...
yellowroy
Smash Ace
Watch out if you counterpick Rainbow Cruise though, they might switch to meta knight.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
First hit has set knockback if I remember correctly, so any %, and depends how close you are.
IxxI
Smash Fence
With din's fire from a far distance a good thing to do is roll forward when it's close to you, the lag from the attack won't get you punished if your at a far enough distance.
Vorguen
Smash Champion
Switch up the air-to-ground.
The other guy covered it but you can also do FF B-airs and U-airs as other alternatives too.
Edit:
Anyone bothered to make a video on Snake's chaingrab on Falco yet?
The other guy covered it but you can also do FF B-airs and U-airs as other alternatives too.
Edit:
Anyone bothered to make a video on Snake's chaingrab on Falco yet?
misterpimp5757
Smash Ace
yea....it was out like 2 months ago.
just search snakes boost grab and u should find it
just search snakes boost grab and u should find it
hdrevolution123
Smash Ace
Down taunt real quick. Down taunt means the down arrow on the 'four-way directional pad thingy.'
It only works if you do it lightning quick but sometimes you won't get it. practise it to get it on the first attempt in a match lol
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
Nike.
Smash Hero
Mkay, heres a situation:
Im marth up throwing snake at medium percent
I SHFF uair and snake air dodges
I grab again to reset situation, and Snake ground dodges. Im guessing its cuz im too late on the grab.
So heres the question: How many frames are there between air dodge->ground dodge that I can grab Snake on?
Im marth up throwing snake at medium percent
I SHFF uair and snake air dodges
I grab again to reset situation, and Snake ground dodges. Im guessing its cuz im too late on the grab.
So heres the question: How many frames are there between air dodge->ground dodge that I can grab Snake on?
Magik0722
Smash Champion
I think its 2 frames nike
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