Snake Q&A

[Oniboy]

The forward throw uair re grab forward throw uair uptilt, that seemed to be the one that was use on me the most.

 

[Dark Ryu]

You can SDI the uair. Also it's not a perfect combo either from uair to another regrab, so you can get out of it.

KenNeth ALWAYS SDI's my uair... so annoying. :\

 

[SuSa]

Dark speaks the truth, SDI out.

/thanks NL (learned this from ninjalink)

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

Or you can pull a nade before the first u-air

 

[Ken Neth]

You can SDI the uair. Also it's not a perfect combo either from uair to another regrab, so you can get out of it.

KenNeth ALWAYS SDI's my uair... so annoying. :\

Yeah, it's really easy to get the timing for the SDI too. I always SDI up, does it work in any other direction?

 

[Black_Heretic]

fthrow -> uair -> regrab/utilt?

 

[Ken Neth]

Yeah, that's what they're talking about. The kirbys I fight normally go for the utilt which gives them a free bair as well. You can SDI the uair up to get out of it.

But if you could SDI another way other than up to get out, you'd be able to get on the ground faster and avoid other possible followups. Anyone know about this? I can't test it right now.

 

[Black_Heretic]

can't you also pull a nade?

(if you're lazy or suck at DI)

 

[socandrewcer]

hey snake mains, i hav a question, who r snakes difficulties

 

[Oniboy]

Dedede and Rob are the big ones, Metaknight and DK can be hard too.

 

[Black_Heretic]

and I haz a queston, y do u tak liek dis?

 

[socandrewcer]

Dedede and Rob are the big ones, Metaknight and DK can be hard too.

k thx a lot

 

[misterpimp5757]

which way do i DI when marth does his side B? do i DI? or SDI?

 

[Dark Ryu]

You always want to SDI, but since we're not perfect beings we can't do it 100% of the time.

Now to DI Marths dancing blade you want to usually DI the way his attack is hitting you and a little bit up. For example, if his attack hits you to the right, you want to DI right and a little up.

It also depends on which specific slash he is doing but most of the time DI'ing away and up will suffice.

 

[HybridTheory]

Two Questions

What's the safest way to approach Falco at low %'s?

and

How should I DI out of Falco's Jab if I get caught in it?

 

[Ken Neth]

Don't approach.

SDI away from him.

 

[MachinegunNorm]

sense we are on the topic of falco.. what did i do wrong besides leave the c4 on the stage...
(wow that was just ******** of me.)
edit: oops forgot to post link.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10KhN2ykjE

 

[misterpimp5757]

this might help u machinegunnorm. oh and u should know that snake has a grab release infinite on falco but you have to use his boost grab to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QijsuAnngSY

what were u guys talkin about falco? he has a jab lock with snake now or somethin?

and should i have more c4's out? i never lay one out bcuz when i get knocked to the side i hate it bcuz my c4 is on the stage which screws me over.

 

[MachinegunNorm]

as long as you aren't facing like falco, c4 on stage isn't a bad thing.
and falco doesn't have a jab lock, just his jabs can be a pain to get out of if you don't know how you're suppose to get out.

 

[Ken Neth]

Falco's jab cancels are a pain in the butt btw. So annoying.

Misterpimp, those people in that vid are ********, that is not how the match is supposed to be fought. First off, I don't know how the falco was expecting to kill him by only shooting lasers. Im pretty sure that was a joke match, cause I guarantee you they really aren't that stupid.

Only camp till you are at like 40%~, then go in and fight. If you get grabbed before then, you get ***** by falco's chaingrab.

 

[misterpimp5757]

i've been watchin the japanese lately and i laugh at how they play. its pretty funny if you ask me.

 

[lanky_gunner]

and should i have more c4's out? i never lay one out bcuz when i get knocked to the side i hate it bcuz my c4 is on the stage which screws me over.

Regardless of if you're afraid of getting knocked out, C4 is really great to have out. It provides one more thing for the character to be scared of. The problem is, like you said, the fear of not being able to recover because there is C4 on the stage. I'll admit, I've lost tourney matches because of this, but I still think having C4 on the stage has more benefits than flaws.

 

[Ken Neth]

I never keep a c4 on the stage vs a falco. It seems like I need to use it almost every time I get knocked off the stage. I'll use them, but I blow them up almost immediately when I do.

 

[abit_rusty]

I kind of find it mildly amusing that the last few pages of this thread consist of problems with the solution of SDI-ing.

Also, hello boards. Hope everything's going alright, I'm just rockin the college scene ova here. I don't play brawl at all regularly anymore, heck I've been playing ssb64 more than anything lately. Great stuff.

On topic: Any new (i.e. on-par with mortar sliding/boost grab) snake AT's? I am guessing no.

oh and is boost grab only limited to snake?

peace.

 

[Black_Heretic]

SSB64 is too good, I play it more than Brawl too (mostly cus I have no wii though)

No new big ATs that I can think of atm

A lot of characters can boost grab/reverse boost grab, only one I can think of right now though is Falco

l8r

 

[lanky_gunner]

I never keep a c4 on the stage vs a falco. It seems like I need to use it almost every time I get knocked off the stage. I'll use them, but I blow them up almost immediately when I do.

Ah, I missed the part mentioning Falco. I thought it was just for basic play against the rest of the characters.

Yeah, never leave C4 against a Falco. I wouldn't mind using it if he just had the chain grab, but he has that spike if he chain grabs you to the edge, so nevermind my last statement. Better to camp than to mindgame with C4.

 

[misterpimp5757]

but didnt you see the video with sk92? u can now tech (di and SDI) to the stage.

it WORKS SOOOO MUCH! when he has you to the edge just di and sdi and you will be spiked on the stage instead of going straight down.

 

[Ken Neth]

Yes, but that is hard to do, plus if the falco thinks you'll do that, he can just not spike you and watch you fair to your death. It's better to be safe than sorry. Just don't approach till you can't be chain-grabbed.

 

[SuSa]

Only SDI if you see him during the startup animation (yea, that 5 frames or whatever, you'll see him move)

I can SDI it 8/10 times, tech it 6/10 times, and have never been "faked".

 

[Ken Neth]

Being "faked" is just what I've heard can happen. I've never had it happen to me.

 

[misterpimp5757]

hopefully no falcos are reading this lol. sk92.

um...i was thinking about making a thread about characters and the stages you should counterpick against for snake to get the upper hand....should i do it? bcuz i really need to know more about my opponents than myself. at the tourney i went to all i did was counterpick rainbow cruise. and that was pretty whack.

 

[Ken Neth]

You don't want him to read it, but then you go and name-drop his name? Smart...

 

[MachinegunNorm]

dang i forgot about the SDI teching of falco's spike, i totally could have used that...

 

[KingKirb]

Can someone tell me some cool combos?

 

[Dark Ryu]

First hit of Ftilt comboed into Second hit of Ftilt.

Best combo ever.

 

[Ken Neth]

Hey! You stole that combo from playing against me!

Second best would have to be A>A>A.

 

[KingKirb]

>_> no but seriously. They told me to come here to ask...

 

[Dark Ryu]

It's just that Snake has no combos...

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Question about counterpicks. Would Aero Dive stage one be a decent counter pick when avaible? It seems to be it would be the perfect snake stage. Small field when moving around that has no ledges and makes it easier to edgeguard as you have such a small stage. When grounded you have odd situations of platforms or pit in the center. Cars coming by that can safe you by making the other person go airborn to avoid getting KOed by the vechiles at like 80%. The pit is deep enough that you can C4 under it and pop up under the stage or on the other side. It just seems like a really good stage to use, or are there bad things about it that I am not seeing?

 

[misterpimp5757]

hey snakes, other than tap jump off, what other controls do you have customized?

i have L for jump so that SH dair is easier and so i can jump with nades.

and i have X for grab so that i can boost grab easier.