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Wario Wario Wario

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Ness alts
  1. Smash 64 blue and purple
  2. Lloyd red shirt, black shorts and white hat
  3. Escargo Express white and pink uniform
  4. Tie-dye shirt (animated)
  5. Giygas shirt with blue skin (animated)
  6. Robot
  7. EVE Red Robot
  8. Starman Super gold robot
Paula alts
  1. Default
  2. Ness yellow and blue striped dress with black hair
  3. Poo white dress and black hair
  4. Jeff bluish green dress
  5. Belch pattern dress with bluish green hair (complimentary to Ness')
  6. Skate Punk brown dress with white hair
  7. Kumatora blue dress with pink hair
  8. Hinawa red dress with brunette hair
  9. Lucas red and yellow striped dress
  10. N64 Kumatora black dress and purple hair
  11. Green dress and greenish hair (original)
  12. Magenta dress, bow, eyes, and makeup; light pink dress frills, belt, hair, and socks; and pinkish skin (original)
  13. Psychedelic dress (animated)
  14. Lumine Hall dress (animated, reads "I'm Paula")
  15. Brainwashed Happy Happy queen - blue (has a robe, the mask isn't pointy for obvious reasons, what you can see of her eyes are swirly, her mouth is a permanent grin, and frying pan is a paintbrush)
  16. Happy Happy - sprite-accurate purple

Luigi
  1. Propeller Suit
  2. Mushroom Orange Propeller Suit
  3. Mario Red Propeller Suit
  4. Toadette Pink Propeller Suit
  5. Casino Luigi
  6. White (colour swapped) Casino Luigi
  7. Green Casino Luigi
  8. Red Casino Luigi
Gooigi
  1. Default
  2. Red with streaks of orange (lava)
  3. Slightly translucent blue with tiny Cheep Cheeps (ocean water)
  4. Oil Black
  5. Yellowish white with herbs (Mayo)
  6. Brown with soda bubbles
  7. Coffee stain yellowish brown
  8. Strawberry milk light pink with strawberry pieces
  9. Very translucent white with soda bubbles (Crystal Pepsi)
  10. Yellow with lemonade ice
  11. Cyan and magenta mixture (animated)
  12. Red and green mixture (animated)
  13. Salvo the Slime beige with cyan streaks
  14. Luigi colours
  15. Fire Luigi colours
  16. Waluigi colours

My final Ness spirit
Insane Cultist
Advanced

Stage: Mementos (Persona 3) (Smashville if Joker DLC not bought)
Opponents: Paula, Blue Inkling x 15
Allies: Paula
Song: You Call This a Utopia?
Rules: Defeat Paula for an ally Paula to join you, Inklings favour neutral special
 
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The Poltergust will be Luigi's new special

My Ness, Gooigi, and Paula skins will be used
Luigi Alts
  1. Mario Bros. palette (Green hat/overalls, brown shirt)
  2. Ice Luigi (Light blue hat/overalls, green shirt)
  3. Anime palette (Navy hat/overalls, yellow shirt)
  4. Mario (Red hat/shirt, blue overalls)
  5. Casino Luigi (model swap)
  6. White Casino Luigi
  7. Mr. L (model swap)
  8. Purple Mr. L
Luigi
  1. Propeller Suit
  2. Mushroom Orange Propeller Suit
  3. Mario Red Propeller Suit
  4. Toadette Pink Propeller Suit
  5. Casino Luigi
  6. White (colour swapped) Casino Luigi
  7. Green Casino Luigi
  8. Red Casino Luigi
Please vote here for Luigi's alts
 

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Puff stage: Magikarp Waterfall

At long last: legal Poké Floats. On this stage you fight atop a giant Magikarp as it slides across a whirlpool, with many normal-sized Magikarp also being swept up in the background. This stage is essentially a Final Destination clone with slopes and no hazards - the Magikarp platform faces directly towards the screen and the battle is close enough to Magikarp's mouth that the fins and crown can't be used as platforms. The whiskers wrap around Magikarp's chin, while the eye side has a puddle of water, these allow players to distingish which part of the stage they're standing on.

Music:
Magikarp Song
Surfing (GSC) (New Remix)
Magikarp Festival
Cascarrafa

Falcon stage: Streets of Rage

This stage is basically a flat walkoff, but with a crazy gimmick - you can walk across the Z-axis, just as you would in a beat em up! You can still tap jump, but you need to be a lot quicker when tapping up - however, crouching and in turn down tilts are MIA, though down smash moves and down specials are avaliable. Z-Axis hitboxes are somewhat expanded on this stage

Music
Go Straight
Fighting in the Street
Into the Zone
Am I Only Dreaming?

Falcon echo: Dodrio

The polar opposite to Ganondorf - Dodrio are lighter, weaker, and have floatier jumps than Captain Falcon (though their ground movement speed is the same), making them combo powerhouses. All hand moves are now peck moves. The Falcon Punch is replaced with a multihit triple peck, while the grab-based specials are bites.

Puff echo: Igglybuff

Igglybuff is (oddly enough for a baby) heavier and (not oddly for a baby) faster on the ground than the Puff, at the expense of being much less mobile in the air. It's air game is nerfed but it's ground game is buffed. Rest is a healing move instead of offensive, while sing is a single note that's off-tune enough to send foes and projectiles flying. Rollout bounces, giving the otherwise poor air fighter a good tool for dealing with jumpy foes. Essentially an opposite of Jigglypuff.

Spirits:
ChuChus
Novice
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Stage: PictoChat 2 (Pipe form)
Song: DK/Jr. Medley
Opponents: Tiny Jigglypuff x 14
Rules: Hotocate Bombs tidal wave, hostile Chain Chomp ATs will spawn, stamina, foes have low HP

Enhances to ChuChu Pilots
Advanced


Taizo Hori
Legend

Stage: Battlefield Pac-Land
Opponents: Blue Captain Falcon
Song: Sky Kid Retro Medley
Rules: Foe has a Gust Bellows, you will become giant and light at high damage.
 
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Will resubmit Pokemon Coliseum
Pokemon Coliseum


Pretty much Stadium 3 with transitions to layouts based on Steel, Posion, Fairy, & Psychic types.

Songs (all from New Pokemon Snap)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PoIIki8Cc10

The Adventure Begins
Photograph Lessons (Tutorial)
Map Select
Florio National Park (Day)
Echo - Wigglytuff

Slower but more powerful.

Echo - Black Shadow

Melee Ganondorf
 
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Puff Echo: Scream Tail

If Jigglypuff is a glass cannon, Scream Tail is a... well, I don't exactly have a term for the opposite of "glass cannon". Anyway, Scream Tail puts a more aggressive spin on Jigglypuff's moveset.
  • Scream Tail is a bit heavier than Jigglypuff, being around the same weight as Meta Knight.
  • Scream Tail is also faster and stronger than Jigglypuff.
  • However, Scream Tail only has three mid-air jumps as opposed to Puff's five, and its aerial mobility is nowhere near as good.
  • Aside from changed properties and more aggressive animations, all of Scream Tail's basic attacks are the same as Puff, with the following exceptions.
    • Dash attack is now a body splash as a small nod to Body Slam.
    • Pummel has Scream Tail bite down on the opponent.
  • Rollout is replaced with Gyro Ball, which acts more like Sonic's Spin Dash. This makes it more reliable and an actually good move.
  • Sing is replaced with Hyper Voice, which has Scream Tail emit a loud, paralyzing screech with more range than Sing. It has more start-up than Sing, though, and just as much endlag.
  • Rest is replaced with Boomburst, a sonic attack with similar "charges up as it goes unused" properties as the Wario Waft. To avoid complete redundancy with Hyper Voice, Boomburst hits in front of Scream Tail as opposed to all around it.

EDIT: Here comes a new challenger!

Falcon Echo: Captain Rainbow


For the most part, Captain Rainbow's moveset is pretty much the same as Falcon's (aside from being slightly slower and lighter), but his smash attacks have him use his trusty yo-yo to mimic the Belmonts' forward smash and Ness's up/down smashes, giving him a bit more range than Falcon. His attacks also replace Falcon's fire effects with rainbow effects.

(As for Nick, he'd probably be regulated to taunts and victory animations.)
 
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Streets of Rage will be Captain Falcon's stage by default, FazDude's Luigi alts will be used
Pokemon Coliseum


Pretty much Stadium 3 with transitions to layouts based on Steel, Posion, Fairy, & Psychic types.

Songs (all from New Pokemon Snap)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PoIIki8Cc10

The Adventure Begins
Photograph Lessons (Tutorial)
Map Select
Florio National Park (Day)
Puff stage: Magikarp Waterfall

At long last: legal Poké Floats. On this stage you fight atop a giant Magikarp as it slides across a whirlpool, with many normal-sized Magikarp also being swept up in the background. This stage is essentially a Final Destination clone with slopes and no hazards - the Magikarp platform faces directly towards the screen and the battle is close enough to Magikarp's mouth that the fins and crown can't be used as platforms. The whiskers wrap around Magikarp's chin, while the eye side has a puddle of water, these allow players to distingish which part of the stage they're standing on.

Music:
Magikarp Song
Surfing (GSC) (New Remix)
Magikarp Festival
Cascarrafa

Falcon stage: Streets of Rage

This stage is basically a flat walkoff, but with a crazy gimmick - you can walk across the Z-axis, just as you would in a beat em up! You can still tap jump, but you need to be a lot quicker when tapping up - however, crouching and in turn down tilts are MIA, though down smash moves and down specials are avaliable. Z-Axis hitboxes are somewhat expanded on this stage

Music
Go Straight
Fighting in the Street
Into the Zone
Am I Only Dreaming?

Falcon echo: Dodrio

The polar opposite to Ganondorf - Dodrio are lighter, weaker, and have floatier jumps than Captain Falcon (though their ground movement speed is the same), making them combo powerhouses. All hand moves are now peck moves. The Falcon Punch is replaced with a multihit triple peck, while the grab-based specials are bites.

Puff echo: Igglybuff

Igglybuff is (oddly enough for a baby) heavier and (not oddly for a baby) faster on the ground than the Puff, at the expense of being much less mobile in the air. It's air game is nerfed but it's ground game is buffed. Rest is a healing move instead of offensive, while sing is a single note that's off-tune enough to send foes and projectiles flying. Rollout bounces, giving the otherwise poor air fighter a good tool for dealing with jumpy foes. Essentially an opposite of Jigglypuff.

Spirits:
ChuChus
Novice
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Stage: PictoChat 2 (Pipe form)
Song: DK/Jr. Medley
Opponents: Tiny Jigglypuff x 14
Rules: Hotocate Bombs tidal wave, hostile Chain Chomp ATs will spawn, stamina, foes have low HP

Enhances to ChuChu Pilots
Advanced


Taizo Hori
Legend

Stage: Battlefield Pac-Land
Opponents: Blue Captain Falcon
Song: Sky Kid Retro Medley
Rules: Foe has a Gust Bellows, you will become giant and light at high damage.
Will resubmit Pokemon Coliseum


Echo - Wigglytuff

Slower but more powerful.

Echo - Black Shadow

Melee Ganondorf
Puff Echo: Scream Tail

If Jigglypuff is a glass cannon, Scream Tail is a... well, I don't exactly have a term for the opposite of "glass cannon". Anyway, Scream Tail puts a more aggressive spin on Jigglypuff's moveset.
  • Scream Tail is a bit heavier than Jigglypuff, being around the same weight as Meta Knight.
  • Scream Tail is also faster and stronger than Jigglypuff.
  • However, Scream Tail only has three mid-air jumps as opposed to Puff's five, and its aerial mobility is nowhere near as good.
  • Aside from changed properties and more aggressive animations, all of Scream Tail's basic attacks are the same as Puff, with the following exceptions.
    • Dash attack is now a body splash as a small nod to Body Slam.
    • Pummel has Scream Tail bite down on the opponent.
  • Rollout is replaced with Gyro Ball, which acts more like Sonic's Spin Dash. This makes it more reliable and an actually good move.
  • Sing is replaced with Hyper Voice, which has Scream Tail emit a loud, paralyzing screech with more range than Sing. It has more start-up than Sing, though, and just as much endlag.
  • Rest is replaced with Boomburst, a sonic attack with similar "charges up as it goes unused" properties as the Wario Waft. To avoid complete redundancy with Hyper Voice, Boomburst hits in front of Scream Tail as opposed to all around it.

EDIT: Here comes a new challenger!

Falcon Echo: Captain Rainbow


For the most part, Captain Rainbow's moveset is pretty much the same as Falcon's (aside from being slightly slower and lighter), but his smash attacks have him use his trusty yo-yo to mimic the Belmonts' forward smash and Ness's up/down smashes, giving him a bit more range than Falcon. His attacks also replace Falcon's fire effects with rainbow effects.

(As for Nick, he'd probably be regulated to taunts and victory animations.)

Segata Sanshiro
The mascot of the Sega Saturn. He plays pretty similarly, but with some grappling and wrestling related moves chucked in. His sound effcets all come from classic sega games. His final smash is him riding on a rocket.
Falcon echo
  1. Segata Sanshiro
  2. Dodrio
  3. Black Shadow
  4. Captain Rainbow
Please vote for your top 2
  1. 2
  2. 1

Puff echo
  1. Wigglytuff
  2. Igglybuff
  3. Scream Tail

Puff stage
  1. Pokémon Coliseum
  2. Magikarp Waterfall
 
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Submit a back special for Captain Falcon

Submit an Assist Trophy function for Captain Falcon

Submit a back special for Jigglypuff

Submit an Poké Ball function for Jigglypuff
 
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Captain Falcon AT - Appears and does a Falcon Punch - if it hits he'll follow it up with a knee of justice. If it hits multiple fighters, he only targets the one with the most points or stocks using the knee

  1. Dodrio
  2. Captain Rainbow
Honourable mention to Segata Sanshiro, who I think would work better as Ryu or Incineroar echo.
 
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Puff Special:
Triple Pound
Just like my PK Freeze submission, this one is meant to fix a problem with another move - it's basically Pound but good, a multihit version! This is forward special while regular Pound is back special. Use the two pounds to your advantage and confuse your foe on which you're going to use!

Falcon special:
Drift
Captain Falcon screeches backwards, creating fire beneath his feet that will draw foes to him

Puff Poké Ball:
stands there, menacingly. Get too close and it'll rest on you, breaking through any shield or intangibility - however, the hurtbox is smaller than the Rest in puff's moveset


Spirits:
Tin Star
Advanced

Opponent: Metal Captain Falcon, invisible Duck Hunt
Stage: Spirit Train
Song: Charge! (Wii Play)
Rules: Foe has a super scope, Duck Hunt favours neutral special and will occasionally get a final smash

AiAi
Legend

Song: Shotgun Kiss
Stage: 3D Land
Opponents: Diddy Kong (Yellow), golden Jigglypuff
Rules: Defeat one to progress to the next, Jigglypuff favours neutral special, banana peels spawn often during the Diddy phase, the stage will flip and you will become uncontrollably fast during the Jigglypuff phase

Senator Armstrong
Legend

Stage: Omega Midgar
Opponent: Black suit Captain Falcon
Song: Battle in the Base
Rule: Foe favours grabs, foe likes to perfect shield, stamina, foe's neutral special has extra power, foe gains super armour and becomes metal at high damage
 
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Falcon Echoes
  1. Black Shadow
  2. Captain Rainbow
Puff Assist
When summoned, Jigglypuff begins singing her song (with better range than her Up Special), putting enemies to sleep. After singing, she then rolls over to another area of the stage before singing again. After repeating this a few times, she falls asleep and vanishes.

Puff Special: Defense Curl (Back)

This special is designed to help Jigglypuff with her lacking defenses. When used, Jigglypuff curls up and spins in place for about two seconds, gaining heavy super armor in the process. However, she lacks a hitbox in this state. You can also cancel out of the curl with a special button input, allowing her to punish moves she tanks.
 
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Captain Commando

Opponents: Caption Falcon, Greninja, Sheik and Bowser Jr.
Stage: Streets of Rage
Song: Top Man Stage
Rule: Reinforcements will spawn; the enemy favors special moves.

Viewtiful Joe

Opponents: Caption Falcon
Stage: New Pork City (Battlefield)
Song: Roll Out, Wonderful 100!
Rule: The enemy favors special moves, enemy loves to taunt; timer items spawn often.
 
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Reiko Nagase

Opponents: Wii Fit Trainer
Stage: Figure-8 Circuit
Song: Light Plane (Vocal Mix)
Rule: Enemy has increased move speed, timed battle.

Captain Commando

Opponents: Caption Falcon, Greninja, Sheik and Bowser Jr.
Stage: Streets of Rage
Song: Top Man Stage
Rule: Reinforcements will spawn; the enemy favors special moves.

Viewtiful Joe

Opponents: Caption Falcon
Stage: New Pork City (Battlefield)
Song: Roll Out, Wonderful 100!
Rule: The enemy favors special moves, enemy loves to taunt; timer items spawn often.
The latter two spirits will be accepted, but not the first since it doesn't feature Captain Falcon or Jigglypuff.

Captain Falcon AT - Appears and does a Falcon Punch - if it hits he'll follow it up with a knee of justice. If it hits multiple fighters, he only targets the one with the most points or stocks using the knee

  1. Dodrio
  2. Captain Rainbow
Honourable mention to Segata Sanshiro, who I think would work better as Ryu or Incineroar echo.
Puff Special:
Triple Pound
Just like my PK Freeze submission, this one is meant to fix a problem with another move - it's basically Pound but good, a multihit version! This is forward special while regular Pound is back special. Use the two pounds to your advantage and confuse your foe on which you're going to use!

Falcon special:
Drift
Captain Falcon screeches backwards, creating fire beneath his feet that will draw foes to him

Puff Poké Ball:
stands there, menacingly. Get too close and it'll rest on you, breaking through any shield or intangibility - however, the hurtbox is smaller than the Rest in puff's moveset


Spirits:
Tin Star
Advanced

Opponent: Metal Captain Falcon, invisible Duck Hunt
Stage: Spirit Train
Song: Charge! (Wii Play)
Rules: Foe has a super scope, Duck Hunt favours neutral special and will occasionally get a final smash

AiAi
Legend

Song: Shotgun Kiss
Stage: 3D Land
Opponents: Diddy Kong (Yellow), golden Jigglypuff
Rules: Defeat one to progress to the next, Jigglypuff favours neutral special, banana peels spawn often during the Diddy phase, the stage will flip and you will become uncontrollably fast during the Jigglypuff phase

Senator Armstrong
Legend

Stage: Omega Midgar
Opponent: Black suit Captain Falcon
Song: Battle in the Base
Rule: Foe favours grabs, foe likes to perfect shield, stamina, foe's neutral special has extra power, foe gains super armour and becomes metal at high damage
Falcon Echoes
  1. Black Shadow
  2. Captain Rainbow
Puff Assist
When summoned, Jigglypuff begins singing her song (with better range than her Up Special), putting enemies to sleep. After singing, she then rolls over to another area of the stage before singing again. After repeating this a few times, she falls asleep and vanishes.

Puff Special: Defense Curl (Back)

This special is designed to help Jigglypuff with her lacking defenses. When used, Jigglypuff curls up and spins in place for about two seconds, gaining heavy super armor in the process. However, she lacks a hitbox in this state. You can also cancel out of the curl with a special button input, allowing her to punish moves she tanks.
Please vote here for Puff's new special

and here for Puff's Poké Ball function

My Falcon submissions win by default

Scream Tail will be Jigglypuff's echo, while its stage will be Magikarp Waterfall!

  1. Dodrio = 1
  2. Segata Sanshiro = 2
  3. Black Shadow = 3
  4. Captain Rainbow = 5
Captain Rainbow will be Captain Falcon's echo!
 

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Submit 8 alternate costumes for Jigglypuff!

Submit 16 alternate costumes for Scream Tail!

Submit 8 alternate costumes for Captain Falcon!

Submit 16 alternate costumes for Captain Rainbow!
 

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Puff
  1. Melee Headband
  2. Grusha scarf
  3. Giant Jigglypuff tattoos
  4. Kirby's Pikachu hat
  5. Igglybuff
  6. Melee Crown for Igglybuff
  7. Togepi egg for Igglybuff
  8. Gigglybuff and Gigglybiff's wing & heart headband for Igglybuff
Scream alts
  1. Default
  2. Shiny
  3. Mawile light yellow with black ponytail
  4. Alolan Rapidash white with green and purple ponytail
  5. Misdreavus dark blue with pink ponytail
  6. Shiny pirouette Meloetta black with white face and magenta ponytail
  7. Shiny Marill green with white ponytail
  8. Skunktank purple with purple and beige ponytail
  9. Pyroar brown with beige face and red and yellow ponytail
  10. Mega Ampharos yellow with white ponytail
  11. Shiny Obstagoon red with white face and blue ponytail
  12. Hisuian Zoroark light grey with white and red ponytail
  13. Galarian Meowth dark grey
  14. Dusk Ball dark green with black ponytail
  15. Quick Ball blue with yellow ponytail
  16. Green bow from Smash 64 Jigglypuff with greenish tint (gotta keep that tradition alive somehow!)

Final Falcon spirit:
Fighting Polygon Team
Advanced

Stage: Battlefield form Streetpass Quest
Song: Duel Zone
Opponents: Purple and red Captain Falcon x 10, Waluigi colour Mario 10, purple Samus x 5, dark Kirby x 5
Rules: No-frills battle

Final Puff spirits:
Bowling Ball
TOP SECRET
Ace
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Stage: Omega Magicant
Song: Boss 2 (Jungle Climber)
Allies: Villager (blue boy with drowsy eyes), Paula (Lucas colour dress), Wario (default plumber)
Opponent: Giant metal Jigglypuff
Rules: Foe favours neutral special, foe has strong lands, foe spawns with a Bob-Omb, stamina

Color TV Game 15
Legend

Stage: Omega Hanenbow
Opponent: Jigglypuff (Nurse Joy hat), Tennis Steve (white Mr. G&W if DLC isn't purchased)
Song: Mt. Dedede (from Kirby Retro Medley)
Rules: Tennis Steve has a Franklin Badge, Jigglypuff is passive, defeat Jigglypuff to win, Tennis Steve is also trying to defeat Jigglypuff, if Tennis Steve defeats Jigglypuff or you defeat Tennis Steve you lose.
 
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Rainbow alts
  1. Default
  2. Dark blue and purple (based on his yoyo, rainbows intact)
  3. Nick orange with floral patterns in place of rainbows
  4. Lip yellow and pink with panels in place of rainbows
  5. Little Mac black and green with yellow starburst patterns in place of rainbow
  6. Crazy Tracy sangria, rainbows intact but darkened
  7. Drake Redcrest red and white, plain yellow in place of rainbow
  8. Soldier dark green, camo patterns in place of rainbows
  9. unused Mach Rider red and blue, black on red in place of rainbows
  10. Tingle green, rupee texture in place of rainbows
  11. Tao black and white, pawprints in place of rainbows
  12. Wario-Man purple and pink, garlic in place of rainbows
  13. Rainbows all over
  14. Non-Specific Action Figure outfit (model swap, no wings, exposed mouth)
  15. Malnourished (Model swap based on default costume, Based on Little Mac's skinny form, though not thin enough to make hitboxes misleading)
  16. Malnourished, Little Mac colours
 

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Submit a stage for Peach!
Please include 4 music tracks, as with all stages on this thread

Submit a stage for Daisy!

Submit a Bowser's Castle stage for Bowser!

Submit up to two echoes for Peach!

We will add two Peach echoes, and I'll assign one of the winners to Peach and the other to Daisy.

Submit an echo for Bowser!

Tagging psb123 psb123 as they expressed interest in joining at this point. You can currently submit up to 4 spirits using Peach, up to 4 spirits using Daisy, and up to 4 spirits using Bowser.
 
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Peach Stage - Mount Volbono


This stage is mostly like Battlefield, but as you can see, the solid platform that takes up the majority of the stage is a little wider. That's because a pot of stupendous stew is cooking in the middle of the solid platform. It is a liquid, but it's too shallow to swim in. So characters can just walk through it.

Wouldn't walking through boiling hot stew damage a fighter? Well initially, no. It's still in the process of cooking and it hasn't reached a temperature that high yet. Key word being "yet".


Much like Green Greens with its Apples, this stage will spawn an exclusive item. This image displays them as the Luncheon Kingdom's Regional Coin, but in reality they're the crystalized ingredients you would see in the Luncheon Kingdom while playing Mario Odyssey.

These will spawn even if items are turned off (again, like the apples in Green Greens) and act as a throwing item. A pretty weak one at that. They don't deal much damage or knockback at all, and they break when they hit a fighter.

But remember, these are ingredients. The true purpose of them is to throw them in the pot of stew. After a certain point in time the stew will start to boil. Which will deal non-flinching burn damage to any fighters in it overtime.

But if a player has thrown an ingredient into the pot, then it will instead act as an overtime heal for that player. Players that have this effect active will know it because their colored arrow of "P1" or "P2" and so on will start pointing to the stew. The player is healed for 1.8% damage every 2 seconds as long as they’re in the boiling stew.

When the pot is done boiling, the ingredients are used up. Meaning a player will have to throw another ingredient in the pot before it starts boiling again to get the healing effect.

Songs:

Mount Volbono
Cookatiel Battle
Tostarena Ruins
Madame Broode Battle

I couldn't think of any Echo Fighters for Peach and I think it's best to save the Peach Spirits I thought of for when we get to new palettes for Peach. Since most of the spirits I thought of used new Palettes.
 

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Peach stage: Rhythm Rally

This is specifically based on Rhythm Rally 2, with the cake theming.
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Red = soft platform, blue = ping pong paddle.
The ping pong players will hit every beat of the song chosen for the stage, one after the other, which deals damage and reflects any projectiles - which song plays on the stage will determine the difficulty of playing on it! The soft platforms also bounce up with every 5th note, and will start bouncing down when they go too high

Rhythm Rally (New Remix)
Remix 10 (Fever)
Beautiful One Day
Flipper-Flop

Daisy stage: Maple Tree

This course has been renamed because the stage is designed to no longer be recognisable as a race track. You fight atop a tree, with branches from the taller, neighbouring trees serving as hard platforms. It has this layout, with a chance of being mirrored.
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The most notable hazards on this stage are 1. leaves falling in front of the battle, the leaves are quite big and thus cover up a decent portion of the screen - they don't have any direct effect other than distraction though, and 2. daytime rain showers. When it starts to rain, the ground becomes slippery everywhere except below the branch and below the tree. Right before the rain shower stops a rainbow will appear, which ends the slipperiness but also makes the branches temporarily break - with them eventually regrowing in a mirrored formation. The leaves do not appear during the rain shower.

Maple Treeway
Maple Treeway (New Remix)
Daisy Hills (New Remix)
Autumn Mountain Battle

Small Peach

I will get a small variant character in if it kills me. Small Peach is lighter and weaker than Peach, but also even more mobile. She doesn't have a float, since she doesn't really need one.

I'll try to submit my take on Bowser's Castle and a Bowser and/or second (third?) Peach echo later

I couldn't think of any Echo Fighters for Peach and I think it's best to save the Peach Spirits I thought of for when we get to new palettes for Peach. Since most of the spirits I thought of used new Palettes.
Palettes are generally officially added after the character's spirit submissions close, though if you add a spirit and think a later piece of content fits it you can ask me and I'll revise it.
 
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Daisy Stage - Daisy Circuit


Daisy must really be thrilled to be in love. Because this stage circles around the statue of her and Luigi. The platform that Daisy herself is standing on is a solid platform, while the platforms occupied by the other 3 princesses are passable platforms.

Of those passable platforms, the ones on the sides move up and down, while the center one moves left and right. This is mirrored after how the platforms at the end goal of a level in Super Mario Land move about. You could also say the moving of the passable platforms, as well as how all the platforms circle around the statue of Luigi and Daisy, are dancing. You know, since the main attraction of this location is the dancing statute?

However the platforms will pause their dance every once in a while at 4 specific locations.

Said locations will feature another notable aspect of the Daisy Circuit Course in the background.


The first displays some of the buildings to the sides of the race track, most notably the building with the shortcut jump at the beginning of the track.

When the camera focuses on this area, Tatanga will sometimes appear at the right side of the stage to shoot a Fireball out of his ship that will split into 3 smaller fireballs and travel across the stage. He does not shoot the fireballs as often as he does during his boss fight in Super Mario Land and he is not guaranteed to appear during this part. There is only a chance of it happening.

As he is directly interacting with the stage though his ship will serve as a hard platform. Just make sure you’re not on it when he leaves the screen.


The 2nd location that platforms could stop at displays the entrance to the tunnel in the background. Like with Tatanga in the previous location, a boss from Super Mario Land will play a role here as well.


This time that boss is King Totomesu. He will come running out of the tunnel and jump into the stage in a pouncing attack. The area he aims for is chosen at random and you won’t be able to tell where he’s pouncing until he’s close to landing the attack.

But like with Tatanga, he doesn’t always appear when this section is active. It will only happen sometimes. As you have probably figured out by now, all the sections that involve a boss from Super Mario Land will only sometimes have that boss appear.



The 3rd section the platforms can stop at displays the Daisy Cruiser out at sea. This time the boss is Hiyoihoi. Who will be chucking boulders onto the stage from the Daisy Cruiser.

Those first 3 sections can be randomly arrived to at any point during the match. However the 4th and final section can only be accessed by a specific method. So before we go over that section, we need to cover how to get to it in the first place.

The statue of Luigi and Daisy dancing is placed on a fountain. And at any point during the match, regardless of which section you’re in, a Yurarin Boo can randomly jump out of the fountain and into the air.

The Yurarin Boo doesn’t attack. It only serves as an enemy to defeat. And it only takes two hits to do so. Once the Yurarin Boo is defeated, the next section that will be transitioned too is the 4th and final section.


That section is the lighthouse. The reason this one has such a specific requirement to access is how it alters the bosses that can appear in the stage.

A Snifit was Daisy’s default partner in the duel mode of Mario Party 3 and one of them will appear with a patch of grass on top of the lighthouse.

Said patch of grass is based on the ones you pluck items from in Super Mario Bros. 2, which is the Snifit’s debut game. The Snifit will pluck a stopwatch out of the ground and said stopwatch will give off a white flash that laters certain aspects of the stage.

To signify that these changes are active, the statue will change into one of Baby Luigi and Baby Daisy dancing instead of the adult versions.

In a similar vein, instead of the bosses appearing during their specific sections, they will now be standard (but similar) enemies from Super Mario Land with weaker attacks.


Gao’s pounce is weaker than King Totomesu’s


The rocks Tokotoko throws aren’t as powerful


And Rocketon shoots out one bullet biff at a time. Bullet Biff’s are like miniature Bullet Bills and aren’t as strong as Tatanga’s fireballs.

The stage will remain this way until the lighthouse is accessed again so that Snifit can pull out another stopwatch. The method for accessing the lighthouse remains the same.



Except for the fact that you have to defeat Dragonzamasu this time. He actually fights back by shooting fireballs when he appears. And he takes 3 hits to defeat instead of 2.

Songs:

Daisy Circuit
Maple Treeway
Shy Guy Bazaar
Rosalina's Ice World

Daisy Spirits
  • Lady Bow:


Advanced
Stage - Luigi’s Mansion
Song - Luigi's Mansion Series Medley
Opponents - Daisy (Color 8) (Main Fighter), Luigi (Color 7)
Rules - Defeat the Main Fighter to Win

  • Madame Flurrie


Advanced
Stage - Distant Planet
Song - Jump Up, Super Star!
Opponent - Daisy (Color 6)
Rules - Dangerously High Winds are in effect

  • Ms. Mowz


Novice
Stage - Paper Mario
Song - Paper Mario Medley
Opponent - Daisy (Color 7)
Rules - The enemy is easily distracted by items

  • Lina


Novice
Stage - Mushroom Kingdom II
Song - Super Mario Bros 2 Ground Theme Remix
Opponent - Daisy (Color 3)
Rules - The enemy is less affected by gravity
 
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Palettes are generally officially added after the character's spirit submissions close, though if you add a spirit and think a later piece of content fits it you can ask me and I'll revise it.
In that case here are the Peach Spirits. I'll just let you know of color changes later.

  • Queen Bean:


Advanced
Stage - Princess Peach’s Castle
Song - This is Minion Turf!
Allies - Mario (Default Color), Luigi (Default Color)
Opponent - Peach (Color 5)
Rules - The enemy will temporarily have increased attack power after a while, the enemy will heal randomly.

  • Hariet


Ace
Stage - Mount Volbono
Song - Madame Broode Battle
Opponent - Peach (Color 4)
Rules - The enemy starts the battle with a Bob-omb, Bob-ombs will rain from the sky after a little while

  • The Transformed Kings


Ace
Stage - Mushroom Kingdom
Song - King Bowser
Opponents - Ludwig (Main Fighter), Piranha Plant (Default Color), Peach (Color 8), Bowser (Yellow Color)
Rules - Defeat the main fighter to win
Can be enhanced into the spirit of “The Mushroom World Kings”



  • The Snow Spirits


Legend
Stage - Summit
Song - Ice Ice Outpost
Opponents - Sonic (Default Color) (Main Fighter), Peach (Default Color), Yoshi (Light Blue Color), Wario (Yellow Overalls), Donkey Kong (Green Color), Luigi (Waluigi Color)
Rules - Defeat the main fighter to win
 

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Bowser Stage - Paper Castle

Based on the first Paper Mario where Peach’s Castle is on top of Bowser’s Castle, Paper Castle will have 8 different sections to it. 4 from Bowser’s Castle, and 4 from Peach’s Castle. Each section will feature a single Star Spirit working together with a single partner from the original Paper Mario to perform a unique action.

The Star Spirits and Partners are always in the background. So while there is technically a chance that the unique action will not be performed, the odds of it not occurring are low.



The stage will always start on 1 of 2 specific sections out of the total 8. One of them is right outside the door to Bowser’s Castle. The Star Spirit and Partner for this section are Kalmar and Goombario.

Kalmar will raise up a bunch of stars from the bottom of the screen every once in a while. They’re at a kind of inbetween with being easy to dodge and being hard to dodge, though they are a fairly weak attack.

Goombario vanishes whenever Kalmar does this, and that’s because one of the stars has a chance of poofing out to reveal Goombario. Who then proceeds to fall down in a headbonk attack which is slightly more powerful than the stars.

Whenever the stage transitions to a new section, it does so via the screen moving in from the right hand side. Exactly like it does in the intro cutscene of Paper Mario.


The 2nd section has no bottomless pits. Just a lava river.



Anyone who is familiar with the classic Metroid stages knows how this lava works. Though occasionally, flows of it will fall down from the top of the screen. Not as powerful as the lava eruptions in Norfair mind you. Same strength as the lava on the floor. Just harder to avoid.

Unless of course you get some help from Bow. She will fly in from the background when the lava fall is about to start. Make contact with her and you’ll become transparent (and still able to move and fight like normal). This makes you immune to the lava falls, but other players can still damage you like normal.

As for Muskular, he’ll sometimes freeze the lava. Cooling it down to a point of where you can walk on it. During which the stage becomes a walk-off.

Do keep in mind that this is cooled lava. Not Ice. So there’s no ice physics.



The next section is in the cave that you need to light up to be able to see what you’re doing. Hence why Watt is here.

Skolar will rain down his Star Storm attack. Which is stronger than Kalmar’s stars, but they don’t take up the whole stage.

They fall in a set pattern. Though there are a few patterns to be chosen from at random.

Also at random, Watt will electrify the stars. Making them a bit more powerful and of course giving them the electric effect.

In case you’re wondering, the spikes at the bottoms of the soft platforms are just for decoration. They don’t have a hurtbox.


The final Bowser’s Castle section is just a simple walk-off. The only notable thing that happens here is Kooper using his Dizzy Shell attack to dart across the screen. Which does stagger a fighter in addition to doing damage if it hits them. He’ll often Zigzag back and forth. But since he’s using Dizzy Shell he will eventually make himself Dizzy and proceed to return to the background.

Unless of course Eldstar uses Refresh to cure Kooper of his dizziness. He doesn’t always do this, but the chance that he will is always there so don’t let your guard down.



This is the other section the stage could start in. Right outside the door to Peach’s Castle instead of Bowser’s.

The unique action for this section is that Bombette will jump in from the background to walk around for a bit, then unleash a big explosion. But she will only do this after Misstar has empowered Bombette with healing abilities.
Meaning instead of doing damage, Bombette’s explosion heals anyone in its radius. By a notable amount too. Usually at about 15%.


Next up we have the hallway where Mario first fights Bowser in both the game's opening and in the final chapter. Despite being a hallway, there are holes at the sides of the floor. So this section is not a walk off.

Sushi will use her Squirt attack to shoot a blast of water at fighters. Sometimes Klevar will stop time for this water blast. Making it sit in the air for a bit before it resumes its path. Even when frozen in time it still has a hurtbox. So don’t make contact with it.


The staircases that come after Mario defeats Bowser with the Star Beam make up the next section. They do go all the way to the edges of the screen, but there are holes in the walls. So you don’t have to rely only on Star KO’s to knock someone out. Speaking of which, there is a hole in the ceiling as well.

Lakilester, oh sorry, Spike will produce clouds to travel along the ground and attach themselves to a fighter. You can shake them off by moving, jumping, and attacking, but if you leave them on too long you’ll fall asleep.

Mamar can use her Lullaby to make anyone a cloud is attached to fall asleep faster.


There may only be 7 Star Spirits, but Twink plays more than an important enough role to join the final partner for the final section.

As you can tell, it’s a pretty standard Final Destination type of section. And given the simplicity of this area, Twink and Parakarry keep their unique action simple by dashing and shell shooting to randomly chosen areas. Obviously this functions as an attack that hurts any fighter it hits. Damage and Knockback are substantial enough to where you should be careful if you’re at a really high percent.

This should pass for a Bowser's Castle stage right?

Songs:

King of the Koopas
Ghost Gulping
Huffin' and Puffin'
Hooktail Battle

Echo Fighter - Wart

Sensible as Dry Bowser is and tempting as Midbus was, I ultimately decided to make Wart the Bowser Echo. He's faster and lighter than Bowser and his Neutral B uses a Bubble Breath instead of a Fire Breath. The Bubbles rise up into the air after Wart breathes them out. Giving them a trickier hitbox.

Bowser Spirits:
  • Mini Bowser:


Novice
Stage - Super Mario Maker
Song - Rolling Hills A
Opponents - Tiny Bowser Team
Rules - Defeat an Army of Fighters

  • Trycylde


Advanced
Stage - Mushroom Kingdom 2
Song - Boss Theme - Super Mario Bros. 2
Opponent - Bowser (Red Color)
Rules - Hostile Assist Trophies will appear. Bowser’s assist trophy specifically.

  • Bowser Bomb


Advanced
Stage - Peach’s Castle
Song - Rocket Road
Opponent - Bowser (Default Color)
Rules - Enemy Starts the Battle with a Bob-omb, the enemy will occasionally turn metal

  • Bowser (Mario Golf Super Rush)


Advanced
Stage - Delfino Plaza
Song - Mario Tennis/Mario Golf
Opponent - Bowser (Red Color)
Rules - Stamina Battle, the Enemy favors back specials
 

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Enemy favors back specials
We haven't decided Bowser's back special yet

Also, would you mind specifying what Wart's equivalents to Bowser's shell moves are? Great submissions thus far otherwise!

My Bowser's Castle submission will be based on Super Mario RPG, specifically the opening chandilier battle.

The background is a composite of many Bowser's Castles, with a very red lighting and tons of enemy and stage element (climbing walls, bill blasters, roto-discs, e.t.c.) cameos in the background - the stage begins with the chandilier falling, once it reaches the lava a chain chomp will grab the stage to lift it up and the lighting turns to a hopeful blue... but once it seems to reaching the open skies (don't question why a chandilier seems to be attached to the sky), it will fall again. The stage layout is one designed for competitive play, having a moving platform in a pendulum pattern similar to Project M Green Hill Zone.

Bowser's Road (New Remix)
World Bowser
SMW Castle (New Remix)
Bowser's Castle (GBA) (New Remix) (Let's just pretend Mario Kart and Mario share a music list now, like they always should've)

Bowser echo: Baby Bowser

Bowser but tiny, faster, and weaker, he's still pretty heavy though and keeps the Tough Guy super armour. His design is closer to his design from the early Yoshi games to distinguish him from Jr. He even gets a Baby Giga Bowser form for his Final Smash!
(I was originally gonna submit Venustoise for this, heh, but Baby sounds better from a playstyle perspective)

second Peach echo: Vampire Daisy

Is stronger and has four jumps + a Brawl glide side special like Steve's up special with no offensive use - however, she's also lighter than the already light Daisy, she doesn't have a float, is slower both in ground movement and attack speed, and her wings make her a bigger target. Redesigned slightly - her hair and clothes are darker by default, her dress has new gothic patterns, and she's got little fangs and sharp fingers, unlike her MP8 design. Her grab pummel is a bite, where coins come out like Mario's up special
 
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We haven't decided Bowser's back special yet
I mean, given that it's a golf themed Bowser Spirit I feel like favoring back specials still fits regardless of what it ends up being.

As for the shell moves on Wart, the Up Smash I think can work as is. He'll just be thrusting his back up at an opponent which would probably make the attack weaker. Down Aerial shouldn't be too hard either. Just have Wart bring his arms and legs closer to his torso as he spins down.

For the Whirling Fortress, honestly it's probably better if Wart pulls a Chrom and uses a different characters Up B. Something similar to the Super Dedede Jump should work out fine.
 

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Buzzy Beetle
Novice

Opponents: Tiny Blue Bowser x 7
Song: Underground (Original)
Stage: Battlefield Mario Bros
Rules: Bowsers have Franklin Badges and favour up special

Dr. Peach
Advanced

Stage: New Donk City Hall
Opponent: Peach (white dress)
Song: Fever
Rules: Foe is constantly healing, defeat within 2 minutes, stamina

Daisy (Super Mario Strikers)
Advanced

Stage: Meta Crystal
Song: Metal Battle (Melee)
Opponent: Daisy
Rules: Footballs spawn often, foe likes to taunt

Enhances to Daisy (Super Mario Strikers: Battle League)
Ace


Doomguy
Legend

Opponent: tiny grey bunny ears Isabelle, Green Samus (Doomguy if Mii costume purchased)
Song: Car Select
Stage: Norfair (Hazards off)
Allies: Pink/red Bowser x 20
Rules: Defeat Isabelle to progress to Samus/Mii and spawn your teammates, Isabelle is passive, Bob-Omb Rain when Samus/Mii is in play, Samus/Mii has super armour, Samus/Mii has a Killing Edge
 
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Peach Echo
Pauline


Toad replaced by barrel flame from arcade games. Final smash changed to performance with her New Donk City Band with Bananas to heal.

Bowser Echo
Midbus


A little quicker but less powerful than bowser.

Daisy Stage
Rainbow Road SNES


Same as other mario kart / fzero stages. Will be on platform that will drop off and pick you up at several locations from the actual track.

Songs
More Rainbow Road themes from
Super Mario Kart
Mario Kart Super Circuit
Mario Kart 64
Mario Kart Wii
 
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Same as other mario kart / fzero stages. Will be on platform that will drop off and pick you up at several locations from the actual track.

Songs
More Rainbow Road themes from
Super Mario Kart
Mario Kart Super Circuit
Mario Kart 64
Mario Kart Wii
I'm not going to veto the submission, and I generally try to avoid asking questions like this, but are you sure the mostly-flat SNES version of Rainbow Road is a good fit for a Delfino-style travelling stage?
 

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Bowser Echo: Ganon

The great king of evil's more beastial form makes an appearance, bringing a more source-faithful Ganon to the fight while keeping the Falcon-clone Ganondorf around for his fans!

Changes are as follows:
  • While Ganon lacks Bowser's Tough Guy armor, he is a few units heavier, finally ending the Koopa King's reign as the roster's heaviest fighter.
  • Ganon's dash attack mirrors Bowser's from Melee and Brawl, being a running headbutt.
  • All of Ganon's smash attacks make use of a trident, being much different than Bowser's smashes.
    • Forward Smash is a trident stab, matching up with Bowser's dropkick.
    • Up Smash has Ganon spin his trident above his head as the tips become engulfed in flames, being a single hit.
    • Down Smash has Ganon stab his trident into the ground, creating a shockwave around himself. This smash is the one most derivative of Bowser's down smash.
  • Ganon's Neutral Air has him spin his trident rather than cartwheeling, mirroring Palutena's nair. It's a single hit, though, like Bowser's nair.
  • Ganon's Down Air has him thrust his trident downwards (although this isn't a stall-and-fall). This can still spike, and mirrors the dair of his nemesis, Link.
  • Ganon's Forward Throw is the same as Bowser's, but uses the horns of his shoulder guards.
  • Ganon's Up Throw is a toss upwards followed by a trident stab.
  • Ganon's Neutral Special is a chargable trident thrust, similar to Ike's Quick Draw.
  • Ganon's Up Special is a rising command grab similar to Ganondorf's Up Special.
  • While Ganon's aerial Down Special is the same as the Bowser Bomb, the grounded version has him stomp the ground hard enough to trip anyone on the same platform as him.
  • Ganon's Final Smash is the same as Bowser's, with him transforming into a large, shadowy boar as a nod to the game over screen of Zelda II.
Probably the most derivative of my echoes so far (changing 10 of Bowser's 24 moves), but most of them at the very least mirror Bowser's and have similar hitboxes.

Will do a Bowser's Castle submission once I'm back from class.

EDIT
And here it is!

Bowser's Castle

Yeah, it's just the PM version. Can't blame me, though; It's really cool.

Music
 
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I'm not going to veto the submission, and I generally try to avoid asking questions like this, but are you sure the mostly-flat SNES version of Rainbow Road is a good fit for a Delfino-style travelling stage?
I think it could work, you can have a few dropoffs (maybe staying a little longer in each one) such as using to Mario Kart Arch as a platform, a couple areas with the rainbow thomps one to avoid them and another to deal with the rippling waves they cause. Another area could be the spot where there is a jump and the left & right split leaving a center gap.

I know you can probably get more off of another Rainbow Road but I for some reason prefer the pixely / simplistic aesthetic of the very first one.
 
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Peach Echoes

Lady Dimitrescu (Resident Evil)



She would be a taller and Heavier peach with no float mechanic and is slower

All Magical attacks are replaced with her big claws
Side smash is also replaced with her claws
Side special is a dash forward with her claws
Neutral Special is now a counter with her claws
Down special has her pull out a piece of furniture to throw at opponents
Up special is a thrust upwards with her claws
Final smash is a cutscene final smash where she becomes her mutated form

Veronica (Fire Emblem)

All magical attacks resemble Fire Emblem spells like fire and lightning

Neutral Special has Veronica pull out her tome and the counter shoots fire instead of spores
Down special has her summon a ball of lightning to throw at opponents
Up special is Robin's Elwind
F-smash has her use Hliðskjálf instead of a golf club
 
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Blastoise
He'd play pretty similarly to Bowser. The only big change would be any fire related moves being replaced with him blasting water from his cannons, kinda like Fludd.
 
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Peach Stage - Mount Volbono


This stage is mostly like Battlefield, but as you can see, the solid platform that takes up the majority of the stage is a little wider. That's because a pot of stupendous stew is cooking in the middle of the solid platform. It is a liquid, but it's too shallow to swim in. So characters can just walk through it.

Wouldn't walking through boiling hot stew damage a fighter? Well initially, no. It's still in the process of cooking and it hasn't reached a temperature that high yet. Key word being "yet".


Much like Green Greens with its Apples, this stage will spawn an exclusive item. This image displays them as the Luncheon Kingdom's Regional Coin, but in reality they're the crystalized ingredients you would see in the Luncheon Kingdom while playing Mario Odyssey.

These will spawn even if items are turned off (again, like the apples in Green Greens) and act as a throwing item. A pretty weak one at that. They don't deal much damage or knockback at all, and they break when they hit a fighter.

But remember, these are ingredients. The true purpose of them is to throw them in the pot of stew. After a certain point in time the stew will start to boil. Which will deal non-flinching burn damage to any fighters in it overtime.

But if a player has thrown an ingredient into the pot, then it will instead act as an overtime heal for that player. Players that have this effect active will know it because their colored arrow of "P1" or "P2" and so on will start pointing to the stew. The player is healed for 1.8% damage every 2 seconds as long as they’re in the boiling stew.

When the pot is done boiling, the ingredients are used up. Meaning a player will have to throw another ingredient in the pot before it starts boiling again to get the healing effect.

Songs:

Mount Volbono
Cookatiel Battle
Tostarena Ruins
Madame Broode Battle

I couldn't think of any Echo Fighters for Peach and I think it's best to save the Peach Spirits I thought of for when we get to new palettes for Peach. Since most of the spirits I thought of used new Palettes.
Peach stage: Rhythm Rally

This is specifically based on Rhythm Rally 2, with the cake theming.
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Red = soft platform, blue = ping pong paddle.
The ping pong players will hit every beat of the song chosen for the stage, one after the other, which deals damage and reflects any projectiles - which song plays on the stage will determine the difficulty of playing on it! The soft platforms also bounce up with every 5th note, and will start bouncing down when they go too high

Rhythm Rally (New Remix)
Remix 10 (Fever)
Beautiful One Day
Flipper-Flop

Daisy stage: Maple Tree

This course has been renamed because the stage is designed to no longer be recognisable as a race track. You fight atop a tree, with branches from the taller, neighbouring trees serving as hard platforms. It has this layout, with a chance of being mirrored.
View attachment 348393
The most notable hazards on this stage are 1. leaves falling in front of the battle, the leaves are quite big and thus cover up a decent portion of the screen - they don't have any direct effect other than distraction though, and 2. daytime rain showers. When it starts to rain, the ground becomes slippery everywhere except below the branch and below the tree. Right before the rain shower stops a rainbow will appear, which ends the slipperiness but also makes the branches temporarily break - with them eventually regrowing in a mirrored formation. The leaves do not appear during the rain shower.

Maple Treeway
Maple Treeway (New Remix)
Daisy Hills (New Remix)
Autumn Mountain Battle

Small Peach

I will get a small variant character in if it kills me. Small Peach is lighter and weaker than Peach, but also even more mobile. She doesn't have a float, since she doesn't really need one.

I'll try to submit my take on Bowser's Castle and a Bowser and/or second (third?) Peach echo later


Palettes are generally officially added after the character's spirit submissions close, though if you add a spirit and think a later piece of content fits it you can ask me and I'll revise it.
Daisy Stage - Daisy Circuit


Daisy must really be thrilled to be in love. Because this stage circles around the statue of her and Luigi. The platform that Daisy herself is standing on is a solid platform, while the platforms occupied by the other 3 princesses are passable platforms.

Of those passable platforms, the ones on the sides move up and down, while the center one moves left and right. This is mirrored after how the platforms at the end goal of a level in Super Mario Land move about. You could also say the moving of the passable platforms, as well as how all the platforms circle around the statue of Luigi and Daisy, are dancing. You know, since the main attraction of this location is the dancing statute?

However the platforms will pause their dance every once in a while at 4 specific locations.

Said locations will feature another notable aspect of the Daisy Circuit Course in the background.


The first displays some of the buildings to the sides of the race track, most notably the building with the shortcut jump at the beginning of the track.

When the camera focuses on this area, Tatanga will sometimes appear at the right side of the stage to shoot a Fireball out of his ship that will split into 3 smaller fireballs and travel across the stage. He does not shoot the fireballs as often as he does during his boss fight in Super Mario Land and he is not guaranteed to appear during this part. There is only a chance of it happening.

As he is directly interacting with the stage though his ship will serve as a hard platform. Just make sure you’re not on it when he leaves the screen.


The 2nd location that platforms could stop at displays the entrance to the tunnel in the background. Like with Tatanga in the previous location, a boss from Super Mario Land will play a role here as well.


This time that boss is King Totomesu. He will come running out of the tunnel and jump into the stage in a pouncing attack. The area he aims for is chosen at random and you won’t be able to tell where he’s pouncing until he’s close to landing the attack.

But like with Tatanga, he doesn’t always appear when this section is active. It will only happen sometimes. As you have probably figured out by now, all the sections that involve a boss from Super Mario Land will only sometimes have that boss appear.



The 3rd section the platforms can stop at displays the Daisy Cruiser out at sea. This time the boss is Hiyoihoi. Who will be chucking boulders onto the stage from the Daisy Cruiser.

Those first 3 sections can be randomly arrived to at any point during the match. However the 4th and final section can only be accessed by a specific method. So before we go over that section, we need to cover how to get to it in the first place.

The statue of Luigi and Daisy dancing is placed on a fountain. And at any point during the match, regardless of which section you’re in, a Yurarin Boo can randomly jump out of the fountain and into the air.

The Yurarin Boo doesn’t attack. It only serves as an enemy to defeat. And it only takes two hits to do so. Once the Yurarin Boo is defeated, the next section that will be transitioned too is the 4th and final section.


That section is the lighthouse. The reason this one has such a specific requirement to access is how it alters the bosses that can appear in the stage.

A Snifit was Daisy’s default partner in the duel mode of Mario Party 3 and one of them will appear with a patch of grass on top of the lighthouse.

Said patch of grass is based on the ones you pluck items from in Super Mario Bros. 2, which is the Snifit’s debut game. The Snifit will pluck a stopwatch out of the ground and said stopwatch will give off a white flash that laters certain aspects of the stage.

To signify that these changes are active, the statue will change into one of Baby Luigi and Baby Daisy dancing instead of the adult versions.

In a similar vein, instead of the bosses appearing during their specific sections, they will now be standard (but similar) enemies from Super Mario Land with weaker attacks.


Gao’s pounce is weaker than King Totomesu’s


The rocks Tokotoko throws aren’t as powerful


And Rocketon shoots out one bullet biff at a time. Bullet Biff’s are like miniature Bullet Bills and aren’t as strong as Tatanga’s fireballs.

The stage will remain this way until the lighthouse is accessed again so that Snifit can pull out another stopwatch. The method for accessing the lighthouse remains the same.



Except for the fact that you have to defeat Dragonzamasu this time. He actually fights back by shooting fireballs when he appears. And he takes 3 hits to defeat instead of 2.

Songs:

Daisy Circuit
Maple Treeway
Shy Guy Bazaar
Rosalina's Ice World

Daisy Spirits
  • Lady Bow:


Advanced
Stage - Luigi’s Mansion
Song - Luigi's Mansion Series Medley
Opponents - Daisy (Color 8) (Main Fighter), Luigi (Color 7)
Rules - Defeat the Main Fighter to Win

  • Madame Flurrie


Advanced
Stage - Distant Planet
Song - Jump Up, Super Star!
Opponent - Daisy (Color 6)
Rules - Dangerously High Winds are in effect

  • Ms. Mowz


Novice
Stage - Paper Mario
Song - Paper Mario Medley
Opponent - Daisy (Color 7)
Rules - The enemy is easily distracted by items

  • Lina


Novice
Stage - Mushroom Kingdom II
Song - Super Mario Bros 2 Ground Theme Remix
Opponent - Daisy (Color 3)
Rules - The enemy is less affected by gravity
In that case here are the Peach Spirits. I'll just let you know of color changes later.

  • Queen Bean:


Advanced
Stage - Princess Peach’s Castle
Song - This is Minion Turf!
Allies - Mario (Default Color), Luigi (Default Color)
Opponent - Peach (Color 5)
Rules - The enemy will temporarily have increased attack power after a while, the enemy will heal randomly.

  • Hariet


Ace
Stage - Mount Volbono
Song - Madame Broode Battle
Opponent - Peach (Color 4)
Rules - The enemy starts the battle with a Bob-omb, Bob-ombs will rain from the sky after a little while

  • The Transformed Kings


Ace
Stage - Mushroom Kingdom
Song - King Bowser
Opponents - Ludwig (Main Fighter), Piranha Plant (Default Color), Peach (Color 8), Bowser (Yellow Color)
Rules - Defeat the main fighter to win
Can be enhanced into the spirit of “The Mushroom World Kings”



  • The Snow Spirits


Legend
Stage - Summit
Song - Ice Ice Outpost
Opponents - Sonic (Default Color) (Main Fighter), Peach (Default Color), Yoshi (Light Blue Color), Wario (Yellow Overalls), Donkey Kong (Green Color), Luigi (Waluigi Color)
Rules - Defeat the main fighter to win
Bowser Stage - Paper Castle

Based on the first Paper Mario where Peach’s Castle is on top of Bowser’s Castle, Paper Castle will have 8 different sections to it. 4 from Bowser’s Castle, and 4 from Peach’s Castle. Each section will feature a single Star Spirit working together with a single partner from the original Paper Mario to perform a unique action.

The Star Spirits and Partners are always in the background. So while there is technically a chance that the unique action will not be performed, the odds of it not occurring are low.



The stage will always start on 1 of 2 specific sections out of the total 8. One of them is right outside the door to Bowser’s Castle. The Star Spirit and Partner for this section are Kalmar and Goombario.

Kalmar will raise up a bunch of stars from the bottom of the screen every once in a while. They’re at a kind of inbetween with being easy to dodge and being hard to dodge, though they are a fairly weak attack.

Goombario vanishes whenever Kalmar does this, and that’s because one of the stars has a chance of poofing out to reveal Goombario. Who then proceeds to fall down in a headbonk attack which is slightly more powerful than the stars.

Whenever the stage transitions to a new section, it does so via the screen moving in from the right hand side. Exactly like it does in the intro cutscene of Paper Mario.


The 2nd section has no bottomless pits. Just a lava river.



Anyone who is familiar with the classic Metroid stages knows how this lava works. Though occasionally, flows of it will fall down from the top of the screen. Not as powerful as the lava eruptions in Norfair mind you. Same strength as the lava on the floor. Just harder to avoid.

Unless of course you get some help from Bow. She will fly in from the background when the lava fall is about to start. Make contact with her and you’ll become transparent (and still able to move and fight like normal). This makes you immune to the lava falls, but other players can still damage you like normal.

As for Muskular, he’ll sometimes freeze the lava. Cooling it down to a point of where you can walk on it. During which the stage becomes a walk-off.

Do keep in mind that this is cooled lava. Not Ice. So there’s no ice physics.



The next section is in the cave that you need to light up to be able to see what you’re doing. Hence why Watt is here.

Skolar will rain down his Star Storm attack. Which is stronger than Kalmar’s stars, but they don’t take up the whole stage.

They fall in a set pattern. Though there are a few patterns to be chosen from at random.

Also at random, Watt will electrify the stars. Making them a bit more powerful and of course giving them the electric effect.

In case you’re wondering, the spikes at the bottoms of the soft platforms are just for decoration. They don’t have a hurtbox.


The final Bowser’s Castle section is just a simple walk-off. The only notable thing that happens here is Kooper using his Dizzy Shell attack to dart across the screen. Which does stagger a fighter in addition to doing damage if it hits them. He’ll often Zigzag back and forth. But since he’s using Dizzy Shell he will eventually make himself Dizzy and proceed to return to the background.

Unless of course Eldstar uses Refresh to cure Kooper of his dizziness. He doesn’t always do this, but the chance that he will is always there so don’t let your guard down.



This is the other section the stage could start in. Right outside the door to Peach’s Castle instead of Bowser’s.

The unique action for this section is that Bombette will jump in from the background to walk around for a bit, then unleash a big explosion. But she will only do this after Misstar has empowered Bombette with healing abilities.
Meaning instead of doing damage, Bombette’s explosion heals anyone in its radius. By a notable amount too. Usually at about 15%.


Next up we have the hallway where Mario first fights Bowser in both the game's opening and in the final chapter. Despite being a hallway, there are holes at the sides of the floor. So this section is not a walk off.

Sushi will use her Squirt attack to shoot a blast of water at fighters. Sometimes Klevar will stop time for this water blast. Making it sit in the air for a bit before it resumes its path. Even when frozen in time it still has a hurtbox. So don’t make contact with it.


The staircases that come after Mario defeats Bowser with the Star Beam make up the next section. They do go all the way to the edges of the screen, but there are holes in the walls. So you don’t have to rely only on Star KO’s to knock someone out. Speaking of which, there is a hole in the ceiling as well.

Lakilester, oh sorry, Spike will produce clouds to travel along the ground and attach themselves to a fighter. You can shake them off by moving, jumping, and attacking, but if you leave them on too long you’ll fall asleep.

Mamar can use her Lullaby to make anyone a cloud is attached to fall asleep faster.


There may only be 7 Star Spirits, but Twink plays more than an important enough role to join the final partner for the final section.

As you can tell, it’s a pretty standard Final Destination type of section. And given the simplicity of this area, Twink and Parakarry keep their unique action simple by dashing and shell shooting to randomly chosen areas. Obviously this functions as an attack that hurts any fighter it hits. Damage and Knockback are substantial enough to where you should be careful if you’re at a really high percent.

This should pass for a Bowser's Castle stage right?

Songs:

King of the Koopas
Ghost Gulping
Huffin' and Puffin'
Hooktail Battle

Echo Fighter - Wart

Sensible as Dry Bowser is and tempting as Midbus was, I ultimately decided to make Wart the Bowser Echo. He's faster and lighter than Bowser and his Neutral B uses a Bubble Breath instead of a Fire Breath. The Bubbles rise up into the air after Wart breathes them out. Giving them a trickier hitbox.

Bowser Spirits:
  • Mini Bowser:


Novice
Stage - Super Mario Maker
Song - Rolling Hills A
Opponents - Tiny Bowser Team
Rules - Defeat an Army of Fighters

  • Trycylde


Advanced
Stage - Mushroom Kingdom 2
Song - Boss Theme - Super Mario Bros. 2
Opponent - Bowser (Red Color)
Rules - Hostile Assist Trophies will appear. Bowser’s assist trophy specifically.

  • Bowser Bomb


Advanced
Stage - Peach’s Castle
Song - Rocket Road
Opponent - Bowser (Default Color)
Rules - Enemy Starts the Battle with a Bob-omb, the enemy will occasionally turn metal

  • Bowser (Mario Golf Super Rush)


Advanced
Stage - Delfino Plaza
Song - Mario Tennis/Mario Golf
Opponent - Bowser (Red Color)
Rules - Stamina Battle, the Enemy favors back specials
We haven't decided Bowser's back special yet

Also, would you mind specifying what Wart's equivalents to Bowser's shell moves are? Great submissions thus far otherwise!

My Bowser's Castle submission will be based on Super Mario RPG, specifically the opening chandilier battle.

The background is a composite of many Bowser's Castles, with a very red lighting and tons of enemy and stage element (climbing walls, bill blasters, roto-discs, e.t.c.) cameos in the background - the stage begins with the chandilier falling, once it reaches the lava a chain chomp will grab the stage to lift it up and the lighting turns to a hopeful blue... but once it seems to reaching the open skies (don't question why a chandilier seems to be attached to the sky), it will fall again. The stage layout is one designed for competitive play, having a moving platform in a pendulum pattern similar to Project M Green Hill Zone.

Bowser's Road (New Remix)
World Bowser
SMW Castle (New Remix)
Bowser's Castle (GBA) (New Remix) (Let's just pretend Mario Kart and Mario share a music list now, like they always should've)

Bowser echo: Baby Bowser

Bowser but tiny, faster, and weaker, he's still pretty heavy though and keeps the Tough Guy super armour. His design is closer to his design from the early Yoshi games to distinguish him from Jr. He even gets a Baby Giga Bowser form for his Final Smash!
(I was originally gonna submit Venustoise for this, heh, but Baby sounds better from a playstyle perspective)

second Peach echo: Vampire Daisy

Is stronger and has four jumps + a Brawl glide side special like Steve's up special with no offensive use - however, she's also lighter than the already light Daisy, she doesn't have a float, is slower both in ground movement and attack speed, and her wings make her a bigger target. Redesigned slightly - her hair and clothes are darker by default, her dress has new gothic patterns, and she's got little fangs and sharp fingers, unlike her MP8 design. Her grab pummel is a bite, where coins come out like Mario's up special
Peach Echo
Pauline


Toad replaced by barrel flame from arcade games. Final smash changed to performance with her New Donk City Band with Bananas to heal.

Bowser Echo
Midbus


A little quicker but less powerful than bowser.

Daisy Stage
Rainbow Road SNES


Same as other mario kart / fzero stages. Will be on platform that will drop off and pick you up at several locations from the actual track.

Songs
More Rainbow Road themes from
Super Mario Kart
Mario Kart Super Circuit
Mario Kart 64
Mario Kart Wii
Bowser Echo: Ganon

The great king of evil's more beastial form makes an appearance, bringing a more source-faithful Ganon to the fight while keeping the Falcon-clone Ganondorf around for his fans!

Changes are as follows:
  • While Ganon lacks Bowser's Tough Guy armor, he is a few units heavier, finally ending the Koopa King's reign as the roster's heaviest fighter.
  • Ganon's dash attack mirrors Bowser's from Melee and Brawl, being a running headbutt.
  • All of Ganon's smash attacks make use of a trident, being much different than Bowser's smashes.
    • Forward Smash is a trident stab, matching up with Bowser's dropkick.
    • Up Smash has Ganon spin his trident above his head as the tips become engulfed in flames, being a single hit.
    • Down Smash has Ganon stab his trident into the ground, creating a shockwave around himself. This smash is the one most derivative of Bowser's down smash.
  • Ganon's Neutral Air has him spin his trident rather than cartwheeling, mirroring Palutena's nair. It's a single hit, though, like Bowser's nair.
  • Ganon's Down Air has him thrust his trident downwards (although this isn't a stall-and-fall). This can still spike, and mirrors the dair of his nemesis, Link.
  • Ganon's Forward Throw is the same as Bowser's, but uses the horns of his shoulder guards.
  • Ganon's Up Throw is a toss upwards followed by a trident stab.
  • Ganon's Neutral Special is a chargable trident thrust, similar to Ike's Quick Draw.
  • Ganon's Up Special is a rising command grab similar to Ganondorf's Up Special.
  • While Ganon's aerial Down Special is the same as the Bowser Bomb, the grounded version has him stomp the ground hard enough to trip anyone on the same platform as him.
  • Ganon's Final Smash is the same as Bowser's, with him transforming into a large, shadowy boar as a nod to the game over screen of Zelda II.
Probably the most derivative of my echoes so far (changing 10 of Bowser's 24 moves), but most of them at the very least mirror Bowser's and have similar hitboxes.

Will do a Bowser's Castle submission once I'm back from class.

EDIT
And here it is!

Bowser's Castle

Yeah, it's just the PM version. Can't blame me, though; It's really cool.

Music
Peach Echoes

Lady Dimitrescu (Resident Evil)



She would be a taller and Heavier peach with no float mechanic and is slower

All Magical attacks are replaced with her big claws
Side smash is also replaced with her claws
Side special is a dash forward with her claws
Neutral Special is now a counter with her claws
Down special has her pull out a piece of furniture to throw at opponents
Up special is a thrust upwards with her claws
Final smash is a cutscene final smash where she becomes her mutated form

Veronica (Fire Emblem)

All magical attacks resemble Fire Emblem spells like fire and lightning

Neutral Special has Veronica pull out her tome and the counter shoots fire instead of spores
Down special has her summon a ball of lightning to throw at opponents
Up special is Robin's Elwind
F-smash has her use Hliðskjálf instead of a golf club

Blastoise
He'd play pretty similarly to Bowser. The only big change would be any fire related moves being replaced with him blasting water from his cannons, kinda like Fludd.
Bowser echo
  1. Blastoise
  2. Baby Bowser
  3. Ganon
  4. Midbus
  5. Wart
Please vote for your top 2
  1. 2
  2. 1
Peach/Daisy echoes
  1. Veronica
  2. Lady Dimitrescu
  3. Pauline
  4. Vampire Daisy
  5. Small Peach
Please vote for your top 3 (remember that we'll be adding 2)
  1. 3
  2. 2
  3. 1

Peach stage
  1. Mount Volbono
  2. Rhythm Rally
Daisy stage
  1. Maple Tree
  2. Daisy Circuit
  3. Rainbow Road SNES

Bowser's Castle
  1. FazDude FazDude (Project M)
  2. Me (Super Mario RPG)
  3. psb123 psb123 (Paper Mario)
 

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