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I made an Rip Example for Masahiro Sakurai.
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Essentially, "No Overlap" is a term used in a lot of tourneys to describe when a source belongs to multiple characters. For example, if we (hypothetically) introduced Shrek as a character with "Songs by Smash Mouth" as a source, we'd have overlap as POTTERQUEST's "Songs sampled in the Mouth Albums" includes such Smash Mouth songs as All Star and Walkin' on the Sun. In practice, this would mean that whilst POTTERQUEST doesn't get All Star, he still gets other songs that are part of that source (for example, Semi-Charmed Life,) and if there was a dual between POTTERQUEST and Shrek, they could both use songs by Smash Mouth. (In the event that POTTERQUEST were to win and get a "takeover," he'd then have "No Overlap" removed, as he's the only one getting rips.)The Potterquest changes make sense to me, especially since how are you gonna have a Harry Potter character without magic as a source? Though I'm confused what "no overlap" means here.
1. Mechanical Moonwalker (I've voted for Michael Jackson once in this thread and I'll do it again! Admittedly he was already in KFAD 2 but eh, I thought he was underused as a source in that event anyway.)
2. Anthony Fantano ("Music about music" as a source might be the creative idea I'm most proud of in this thread so far, ngl.)
Well, that's the genius of it. In the case of a Dual Rip, because both characters have it in their source, it makes sense to use it then. It's just, in a rip specifically for POTTERQUEST, it would take away from the hypothetical contestant Shrek, as All Star would likely be a big part of both of their sourcelists. As such, a dual between the pair of them would probably feature it as a major part given the song's importance to both characters' sourcelists, but it probably wouldn't feature in two seperate, individual rips of their as major ones.I see! In that case though, what's the problem with overlap? These KFaD-inspired music tournaments have a lot of the duel rips as part of their repertoire from what I can tell, and two characters sharing a certain source lends itself well to that.
It adds a little bit of extra challenge sure, I think I get it. Also sounds like the overlapping source goes to the character who doesn't say "no overlap"? just to be sure.Well, that's the genius of it. In the case of a Dual Rip, because both characters have it in their source, it makes sense to use it then. It's just, in a rip specifically for POTTERQUEST, it would take away from the hypothetical contestant Shrek, as All Star would likely be a big part of both of their sourcelists. As such, a dual between the pair of them would probably feature it as a major part given the song's importance to both characters' sourcelists, but it probably wouldn't feature in two seperate, individual rips of their as major ones.
The main reason that overlap isn't ideal in tourneys is to really give characters unique vibes to one another. If several characters have the same song or media as a major part of their sourcelist, it makes the whole tourney a slightly stale feeling, whereas having characters with no overlap at all brings a unique aura to each of them (though admittedly it makes it more difficult to perform dual rips, but it's more of a challenge that way I think :D)
On the first bit, yes. In general, the character who has more "good" sources, or at least has more potential overall other than said overlap, would get the "no overlap" because they have other stuff to back it up. For instance, in the case of Shrek vs. POTTERQUEST, it's the latter that gets "no overlap" because "Songs featured in the Mouth Albums" has overall more recognisable rips than "Songs by Smash Mouth."It adds a little bit of extra challenge sure, I think I get it. Also sounds like the overlapping source goes to the character who doesn't say "no overlap"? just to be sure.
Sudden secondary question though. You called it a "Dual Rip" there and now I feel like there's an important distinction to make that SiIvaGunner was always a bit vague on. Is it a "duel" rip where it's two characters fighting for control over the soundtrack and therefore combining both of their sources into one song through force, or is it a "dual" rip where they pool their sources together and willingly come up with a way to incorporate both of their traits on one song?
Okay, so I actually had a semi-good idea today, but I don't have a specific image for it. I'll attach related images though, and I'll describe what I'm thinking.Voting's over!
Tankman from Newgrounds Sakurai: 1 Vote
Yiptap The Dark Lord: 0 Votes
KneeOfJustice99 Mechanical Moonwalker: 7 Votes
Torgo the Bear Evil Abed: 0 Votes
Dan Quixote Anthony Fantano: 10 Votes!
The winner is...
Anthony Fantano!
This is gonna be a reeeeal interesting boss fight, that's for sure.
Job 21: Submit a newcomer!
To quote what I said a lot of times in this thread, go nuts! It's a free-for-all.
Meliodas | Elizabeth | Diane | Elaine | Hawk |
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The Dragon Sin of Wrath and the main, demon protagonist and leader of the Seven Deadly Sins, Meliodas is a no-brainer as a guest. He could probably run his tavern, the Boar Hat, during his stay at the hotel. | MASSIVE SPOILERS: Elizabeth is Meliodas's waitress. She may appear to be 16 at first, but she's actually the 107th reincarnation of the goddess Elizabeth who was punished to be eternally reincarnated for loving the demon, Meliodas. Anyway, I think she would make since as a guest, since Meliodas is gonna be there.
| Diane is the Serpent Sin of Envy and King's girlfriend, despite their species difference (King is a fairy, Diane is a giant). King eventually had to brainwash Diane after his best friend, Helbram, committed mass genocide on humans. They eventually reunited many years later when they were in the Seven Deadly Sins, but instead of having a crush on King, she had a crush on Meliodas. After King had a final confrontation with Helbram, Diane was able to regain her memories. | Elaine is Ban's girlfriend and King's little sister. When King set out to find Helbram, who had been kidnapped by humans, Elaine was forced to guard the fountain of youth. Ban attempted to steal the fountain of youth, but ended up meeting Elaine, which led to them having a relationship together. After Elaine was killed by a demon, Ban drank the fountain of youth and set out to revive Elaine. | As you can tell by my current pfp, I love Hawk. Hawk was one of the three major characters introduced from the very beginning, along with Meliodas and Elizabeth. Hawk has a great relationship with Ban, so I think he would make sense as a guest. |
This is a good submission, but would it be okay if the Sitcoms source gets changed to Adult Animation? I feel like Homer and Peter are better known for that. (It's okay if you say no)Job 21:
"I hope you like it, because we are taking the ride..."
HOMER SIMPSON AND PETER GRIFFIN!
Are gonna make you laugh!
Age: 39 (Homer) and 58 (Peter)
Species: Humans
Universe: Fox Animation (Part of Disney Multiverse)
Description:
Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are main characters of both shows called "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy". They are sometimes dimwitted Fathers, who both originate from Fox Animation series, which debuted before 2000's.
Homer Simpson is Marge's Husband and father of Lisa, Bart and Maggie. He is shown as dimwitted person, which it was shown that he became stupid after he put a Pencil in his nose when he was a kid. He really likes to drink Duff Beer and he works at Springfield Power Plant, which he controls it.
Pter Griffin is Lois' husband and Father of Chris, Stewie and Meg. Peter is shown to be also dimwitted and he likes to spend time with Cleveland, Joe and Quagmire in Drunken Clam bar.
He doesn't have any job, but he likes to say cut away gags like he always does.
Their sources:
- Sources taken from Fox Animation:
(Examples: Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, Futurama)
- Sources taken from Sitcoms:
(Examples: Friends, Seinfeld, Looney Tunes Show)
- Songs associated with Dads:
(Examples: Dad Battle - FNF)
Guests:
- Quagmire
- Joe
- Lois
- Marge
- Jerry Seinfeld
- Daddy Dearest
- Stan
- Bender
(I'll edit the Guest descriptions)
I nominate them, because they could represent Adult Animation and they are first Cartoon characters to join the Roster. Despite they are hated now, they could have some Rip potential and possible creativity. They deserve to be in the Roster, because their shows were popular and went downhill, but they still have something in common.
Yup, definitely!This is a good submission, but would it be okay if the Sitcoms source gets changed to Adult Animation? I feel like Homer and Peter are better known for that. (It's okay if you say no)
that link leads to the green greens brawl mashup, just fyi
Well, those Rips deconfirmed Ben 10, Garfield and others, who were having chance to appear.On the point of "finding interesting or unusual sources associated with characters," Chris Pratt has a surprising lineup mostly due to his filmography. Allow me to elaborate:
Once again, this isn't to attack anyone! It's just for funsies - it's always interesting to see what rips characters could have!
- Ben 10: Ultimate Alien. So, turns out that Chris Pratt voiced a character called Cooper Daniels in UA for two episodes, which technically makes him the Ben 10 rep! A weirder role that I wasn't aware of until I did a little research, but one nonetheless!
- Movie 43. If you forgot this movie existed, that's probably a good thing. (For context, it's the film where Hugh Jackman had, shall we say, genetalia on his chin.) This brings in a surprising rip I suppose, but one that's not likely to be used all too much.
- Garfield. Garfield is interesting in that, as of writing, it's not been released yet... but Garfield as an IP is shockingly large. Keep your eyes peeled for a Garfield Kart x Caught in the Act rip!
- Saturday Night Live. Also, he apparently hosted an episode of SNL alongside Ariana Grande, which brings a lot of interesting ideas to the table. For instance, with each episode usually having a musical performance... all of them are technically in Chris's sourcelist, which brings some unusual rips from a variety of really unusual sources as diverse as ABBA, Justin Timberlake, and 50 Cent. In fact, it could be argued that this alone is one of his biggest rips!
Sorry for mistake.that link leads to the green greens brawl mashup, just fyi
That’s not necessarily true. Just slap no overlap onto his sources, and boom, they’re safe.Well, those Rips deconfirmed Ben 10, Garfield and others, who were having chance to appear.
Thanks for the advice.That’s not necessarily true. Just slap no overlap onto his sources, and boom, they’re safe.
Torgo, Dan Quixote said that he had her before that Tournmaent existed and he stated that he won't replace her.Feel free to bleed out your ears to this SNK Heroines VS Chris Pratt mashup I made
Athena Fell In The Pit
Also just felt like bringing up an older topic again...do we wanna replace Lofi Girl or not? I personally just keep feeling like we shouldn't use any characters who are already in another tournament...and I do have an idea for a character who could replace her while still keeping 90% of her sources.
But then again, this tournament is after that tournament.Torgo, Dan Quixote said that he had her before that Tournmaent existed and he stated that he won't replace her.
Personally, I'd be in favour of it. Aside fro mthe fact that she's in Ultimus and Mashup Week, you have me intrigued as to who your replacement is! :DFeel free to bleed out your ears to this SNK Heroines VS Chris Pratt mashup I made
Athena Fell In The Pit
Also just felt like bringing up an older topic again...do we wanna replace Lofi Girl or not? I personally just keep feeling like we shouldn't use any characters who are already in another tournament...and I do have an idea for a character who could replace her while still keeping 90% of her sources.