SmashBoards Creates: A Revised Brawl

[Pupp135]

After gaining inspiration from Perkilator ’s Alternate Melee and Ultimate threads and my expanded SSB64 thread, I’d like to make one where we make a revised version of Brawl.

Things we’ll focus on
Roster
Stages
Game Modes
Items
Subspace

By default, Mario, Link, Kirby, Pikachu, and Snake are added. I have Snake here because he was personally requested by Kojima. Also, Battlefield and FD are added by default.

Spoiler: Roster (17/39)

Mario (Super Mario) Final Smash: Mega Mushroom Alts: Fire, Blue
Bowser (Super Mario) Final Smash: Mega Spike Bowser Alts: Blue/Lost Level
Link (Legend of Zelda) Final Smash: Triforce Slash Alts: Fierce Deity, Blue Tunic,
Midna (Legend of Zelda)
Samus Aaran (Metroid) Final Smash: Zero Laser Alts: Fusion Suit, Purple Gravity Suit,
Pit (Kid Icarus) Moveset Alts: Fallen Angel, Golden,
Kirby (Kirby) Final Smash: Cook Kirby Alts: Yellow, Cyan,
King Dedede (Kirby) Alts: Orange, Pink,
Fox McCloud (Star Fox) Final Smash: Landmaster Alts: Blue,
Wario (Wario) Moveset Alts: Land 3,
Pikachu (Pokemon) Final Smash: Volt Tackle Alts: Ash’s Cap, Party Hat,
Mewtwo (Pokemon) Final Smash: Psychic Alts: Shiny,
Pokemon Trainer (Pokemon) (Totedile, Grovyle, Charizard) Moveset Alts: Gold/Ethan,
Sami (Advance Wars) Alts: Purple
Snake (Metal Gear) Moveset: Same as Ultimate Alts: Tuxedo

Spoiler: Stages (15/40ish)

Battlefield (Super Smash Bros)
Final Destination (Super Smash Bros)
Bowser’s Castle (Super Mario)
Bridge of Eldin (Legend of Zelda)
Frigate Orpheon (Metroid)
Kid Icarus (Kid Icarus)
City Trial (Kirby)
Lylat Cruise (Star Fox)
Golden Pyramid (Wario)
Sky Pillar (Pokemon)
Pictochat (Nintendo DS)
Zanzibar Land (Metal Gear)
Temple (Legend of Zelda)
Fountain of Dreams (Kirby)
Pokefloats (Pokemon)

Spoiler: Items 13/48

1-Up Mushroom (Super Mario)

Hammer (Donkey Kong)

Heart Container (Legend of Zelda)

Bunny Hood (Legend of Zelda)

Screw Attack (Metroid)

Warp Star (Kirby)

Dragoon (Kirby)

Mr. Saturn (Mother)

Pokeball (Pokemon)

Super Scope

Unira (Clu Clu Land)

Pitfall (Animal Crossing)

Home-Run Bat (Series Original)

Spoiler: Pokemon 11/30

Electrode
Snorlax
Togepi
Scizor
Wobbuffet
Unknown
Porygon 2
Torchic
Gardevoir
Metagross
Piplup

Spoiler: Game Modes

Multiplayer
Vs. (Time, Stock, Coin Battle, Stamina)
Special Smash
Fast Brawl
Slow Brawl
Giant Brawl
Tiny Brawl
Single Button
Metal
Invisible

Single Player
Classic Mode
Adventure Mode (Overall Plot)
Target Test
Home Run Contest
Multi-Man/Mob Smash
Century Smash/100-Man Smash
Endless Smash
Cruel Smash
Rival Smash

Spoiler: Bosses

Dedede Robo (Kirby)

Spoiler: Music

Super Mario Ground Theme Airship Theme Castle Theme (Super Mario World) Bowser Road Delfino Plaza Boss Battle (Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time)

Donkey Kong Jungle Level Bramble Blast Mining Melancholy Gangplank Galleon

Legend of Zelda Main Theme Great Temple (Remix) Ballad of the Wind Fish Hyrule Field Theme (OoT) Gerudo Valley Dragon Roost Island Midna’s Lament

Metroid Vs. Ridley SR388 Magmoor Cavern Theme of Samus Aaran, Space Warrior Vs. Parasite Queen Multiplayer (Metroid Prime 2: Echoes)

Kid Icarus Skyworld Underworld Overworld Medusa Sky World Tower Fortress

Yoshi Yo Yo Yoshi Athletic Wildlands Bowser

F Zero Mute City (SNES) Dream Chaser Shotgun Kiss Climb Up! And Get the Last Chance!

Kirby King Dedede’s Theme Gourmet Race Hyper Zone I Factory Inspection Boss (Kirby and the Amazing Mirror) Checker Knights The Legendary Air Ride Machine Squeak Squad Theme Meta Knight’s Revenge

Star Fox The Loner, Falco Lombardi Corneria Space Battleground Star Wolf (64) Area 6 Star Wolf (Assault)

Wario Crescent Moon Village Greenhorn Forest Allergia Gardens Warioware Inc. Credits Hurry Up!

Mother Enemy Invasion Sanctuary Guardian Porky

Pokemon Pokemon Center (Red, Blue, Yellow) Viridian Forest Gym Leader(Gold/Silver) Battle! Elite Four (Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald) Cipher Peon Battle Team Galactic Battle

Metal Gear Main Theme (Metal Gear: Sons of Liberty) Red Alert Theme of Tara Encounter The Best is Yet to Come Battle in the Base

Spoiler: Jobs

Job 1: Submit a Nintendo newcomer for E3 2006
Job 2: Submit a new stage for Mario and Kirby
Job 3: Submit a new item
Job 4: How should Final Smashes work
Job 5: Bring in Two Veterans for E3 2006
Job 6: Submit a Classic Mode Idea
Job 7: Submit a new stage for Metal Gear
Job 8: Return 5 items
Job 9: Submit 2 Special Smash modes
Job 10: Submit a character from a series not represented for E3 2006
Job 11: Vote for 6 pokemon to return for the pokeball item
Job 12: Submit a Single Player Minigame
Job 13: Submit a new item
Job 14: Submit new stages for Legend of Zelda and Pokemon
Job 15: Submit Final Smashes for Mario, Link, and Kirby.
Job 16: Submit a character from a series represented in Melee
Job 17: Submit a Mob Smash mode
Job 18: Submit a new Pokemon
Job 19: Submit a past stage from Mario, LoZ, Metroid, Kirby, Star Fox, or Pokemon
Job 20: Submit Snake and Wario movesets
Job 21: Submit a Kid Icarus and Wario Stage
Job 22: Vote for 3 more items to Return
Job 23: Bring back two Melee Veterans
Job 24: Submit a new item
Job 25: Submit new Pokemon
Job 26: Submit Samus, Kirby, and Fox Final Smashes
Job 27: Submit a past stage from Mario, LoZ, Metroid, Star Fox, or Pokemon
Job 28: Submit a plot for Story Mode
Job 29: Submit movesets for Pokemon Trainer and Pit
Job 30: Submit a new Metroid and Star Fox Stage
Job 31: Submit a character who debuted in 2005/2006
Job 32: Submit a Boss Fight
Job 33: Bring Back 2 Items
Job 34: Add a Returning Pokemon
Job 35: Add a Returning Super Mario, Legend of Zelda, Metroid, or Star Fox Stage
Job 36: Come up with Bowser and Mewtwo Final Smashes
Job 37: Submit a New Stage
Job 38: Submit a Female Newcomer
Job 39: Submit a New Item
Job 40: Submit a Special Smash Mode
Job 41: Submit Two Legendary Pokemon
Open Ended: Submit alternate colors for characters
Job 42: Submit Movesets for King Dedede and Midna
Job 43: Submit an Advance Wars Stage
Job 44: Submit Two Veterans to Return
Job 45: Bring back Two past items
Job 46: Submit a Boss Fight
Job 47: Add Two New Pokemon
Job 48: Bring Back a Returning Stage
Job 49: Submit Final Smashes for New Characters
Job 50: Submit a New Stage
Job 51: Submit a Newcomer
Open Ended: Submit Music
Notes
Have a check in when there are 25 fighters and then 35 fighters

Job 1: Submit a Nintendo newcomer to have shown in E3 2006.

Instead of going with one of the four shown in E3, I’ll go with King Dedede, who was the most requested non-Mario character in the Smash 2 poll. Also, he is Kirby’s main rival.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Job 1:Ridley (Metroid)

Yes,Ridley probablly is the most requested character from Smash series,he will be a playable character.

 

[Perkilator]

Job #1: Pokémon Trainer


A game as big as Pokémon makes total sense for E3 2006, but for this iteration I wanted to go for some more variety in the Trainer’s Pokémon. This time, Charizard is accompanied by Totodile and Grovyle. They would also not have the type effectiveness or stamina systems at all.

Also, Leaf would be an alternate costume as well.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Job 1: Villager (Animal Crossing)

Animal Crossing had everything else an repped series had in Brawl, including stages, items, assist trophy, and trophies.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Duck Hunt

One of the most iconic games Nintendo has ever created, to the point where it's eventual Smash inclusion 4 instalments in was arguably the longest overdue in the series' history. Absolutely a big pull for E3, especially in 2006 when NES nostalgia was the big thing.

 

[nirvanafan]

Zero Suit Samus

Seeing Samus in action without her suit was pretty cool, especially considering its 2006 and i kind of remember myself and friends being aware samus was a human but unaware of what she looked like or what she was capable of without her suit.

 

[FazDude]

Wario

With the WarioWare series doing pretty well during 2006 and Wario Land: Shake It on the way, Wario's inclusion would make a lot of sense. Plus, I quite like Wario.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Nintendo character submission:

Little Mac (Punch-Out!!!)

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Little Mac is a protagonist of Nintendo's boxing game series "Punch-Out!!!" and he is the youngest and smallest boxer from Bronx.
His motive is to win the boxing tournament by defeating boxers from around the world.

Little Mac is one of popular 1980's Nintendo characters and his series was popular back in the 80's and early 90's. He is considered as one of Nintendo's known arcade characters alongside Mario, Luigi and Donkey Kong.

His moveset would be boxing-themed due to being a boxer himself. He may also use other boxing styles like kickboxing (due to being similar to actual boxing) during most of his attacks.

I feel he would be an interesting and surprising choice for E3 since it might potentially foreshadow a new Punch-Out game in alternate universe version of 2007/2008 and he would his presence may surprise some of fans.

 

[Perkilator]

Quick question: can we vote for 4 characters and make it so that the top 4 most popular voices get in? Because the E3 2006 trailer in canon revealed 4 Nintendo newcomers and Snake.

 

[Pupp135]

Quick question: can we vote for 4 characters and make it so that the top 4 most popular voices get in? Because the E3 2006 trailer in canon revealed 4 Nintendo newcomers and Snake.

I was thinking of spreading out the jobs for the four E3 2006 newcomers, so only the top 2 will be added this round.

Here are the nominations
Pupp135 King Dedede
DragonRobotKing26 Ridley
Perkilator Pokemon Trainer
Northsouthmap Villager
Wario Wario Wario Duck Hunt
nirvanafan Zero Suit Samus
FazDude Wario
Tankman from Newgrounds Little Mac

Vote for your three most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Pokemon Trainer
2. Wario
3. Duck Hunt

Job 2: Submit new stages for the Mario and Kirby franchise.

For the Mario stage, I’ll go with Delfino Plaza as it is in Brawl.

For the Kirby stage, I’ll nominate City Trial, which works like Delfino Plaza.

 

[Perkilator]

1. Wario
2. Pokémon Trainer
3. Zero Suit Samus

Mario Stage: Bowser’s Castle

Kirby Stage: Rainbow Route (based on its Super Smash Flash 2 incarnation)

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Wario
2. King Dedede
3. Ridley

 

[nirvanafan]

Villager
ZS Samus
Wario

Mario Stage - Rainbow Road, works similar to 3ds version but based on Mario Kart 64

Kirby Stage - Cookie Country, same as brawl mod

 

[Otoad64]

1. Pokemon Trainer
2. Wario
3. King Dedede

Kirby Stage - Halberd

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Pokemon Trainer
2. Wario
3. King Dedede

Villager
ZS Samus
Wario

Mario Stage - Rainbow Road, works similar to 3ds version but based on Mario Kart 64

Kirby Stage - Cookie Country, same as brawl mod

Return to Dream Land came out after Brawl, so this might not count.

 

[DarkVortex]

1. Wario
2. Dedede
3. Ridley

Little Mac would also have been good for this. Pokemon strikes me more as a mid way through reveal

 

[Pupp135]

Kirby Stage - Cookie Country, same as brawl mod

Unfortunately, Cookie Country is ineligible as it Return to Dreamland was released years after Brawl.

1. Wario
2. Pit
3. Dedede

Little Mac would also have been good for this. Pokemon strikes me more as a mid way through reveal

Since Pit was not nominated, could you please change the 2nd place vote?

 

[DarkVortex]

Unfortunately, Cookie Country is ineligible as it Return to Dreamland was released years after Brawl.



Since Pit was not nominated, could you please change the 2nd place vote?

Done

 

[nirvanafan]

Unfortunately, Cookie Country is ineligible as it Return to Dreamland was released years after Brawl.



Since Pit was not nominated, could you please change the 2nd place vote?

My bad, thought it was in earlier games as well,
Will change it to Vegetable Valley with same layout if ok.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Luigi's Mansion

Same as Brawl

Mt. Dedede

Same as the part from Game Boy stage

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes
King Dedede 6
Ridley 2
Pokemon Trainer 11
Villager 3
Duck Hunt 1
Zero Suit Samus 3
Wario 16
Little Mac

Wario and Pokemon Trainer are our first newcomers to be revealed at E3 2006.

Here are the stage nominations
Mario
Pupp135 Delfino Plaza
Perkilator Bowser’s Castle
nirvanafan Rainbow Road
Northsouthmap Luigi’s Mansion

Kirby
Pupp135 City Trial
Perkilator Rainbow Route
nirvanafan Vegetable Valley
Otoad64 Halberd
Northsouthmap Mt. Dedede

Vote for your three mist wanted for each category, where yours is not first.

1. Bowser’s Castle
2. Rainbow Road
3. Delfino Plaza

1. Rainbow Route
2. City Trial
3. Mt. Dedede

Job 3: Submit an item that was not in 64 or Melee.

For this one, I’ll go with the 1-Up Mushroom, which gives the player an extra point or stock.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Bower's Castle
2. Luigi's Mansion
3. Rainbow Road

1. Halberd
2. Vegetable Valley
3. Mt. Dedede

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Bowser's Castle
2. Rainbow Road
3. Luigi's Mansion

1. City Trial
2. Halberd
3. Vegetable Valley

 

[nirvanafan]

Bowsers Castle
Rainbow Road
Luigis Mansion

City Trial
Vegetable Valley
Mt. Dedede

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes

Delfino Plaza 1
Bowser’s Castle 12
Rainbow Road 7
Luigi’s Mansion 4

Bowser’s Castle is our first new Mario stage.

City Trial 8
Rainbow Route 3
Vegetable Valley 5
Halberd 5
Mt. Dedede 3

City Trial is our first Kirby stage.

I’ll leave up the item job until tomorrow; otherwise, the 1-Up Mushroom is added by default.

 

[Pupp135]

By default, the 1-Up Mushroom is our first new item.

Job 4: Submit how Final Smashes should work.

I’m fine with the way Brawl handled them.

Job 5: Nominate your three most wanted veterans to show at E3 2006

Spoiler: Veterans

Donkey Kong
Samus
Yoshi
Fox
Luigi
Captain Falcon
Ness
Jigglypuff
Bowser
Peach
Zelda
Sheik
Zelda/Sheik as tranformations
Ice Climbers
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Falco
Marth
Young Link
Ganondorf
Mewtwo
Roy
Mr. Game & Watch

1. Samus
2. Bowser
3. Ice Climbers

 

[Perkilator]

1. Samus
2. Mewtwo
3. Yoshi

 

[nirvanafan]

Fox
Zelda/Sheik as tranformations
Ice Climbers (if Zelda/Sheik dont count as 2 already)

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Samus
2. Luigi
3. Zelda/Sheik

 

[DarkVortex]

1. Samus
2. DK
3. Fox

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

1. Puff
2. Pichu
3. Doc

Final Smashes: Activated via meter. Each Final Smash has some kind of glaring weakness that can be exploited.

 

[Northsouthmap]

1. Samus
2. Fox
3. Zelda/Sheik

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

1. Samus
2. Fox
3. DK

 

[Otoad64]

1. Donkey Kong
2. Luigi
3. Samus

 

[Pupp135]

Here are the votes
Donkey Kong 6
Samus 19
Yoshi 1
Fox 8
Luigi 4
Jigglypuff 3
Bowser 2
Zelda/Sheik 4
Ice Climbers 2
Dr. Mario 1
Pichu 2
Mewtwo 2

Samus and Fox are our two additional veterans revealed in E3 2006.

For Final Smashes, please decide if they should be based on the Smash Ball or a Final Smash Meter.

How should Final Smashes be approached? - Online Poll - StrawPoll.com

What's your opinion? Vote now: Smash Ball, Final Smash Meter...

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Job 6: Submit a Classic Mode Layout

I’m fine reusing Melee’s format for Classic Mode, so there is more randomness in it.

Job 7: Submit a stage for Metal Gear

For the Metal Gear Stage, I’ll instead go with Zanzibar Land, which will function like Castle Siege.

The first part of the stage will be the front entrance of the Zanzibar Building, which has a walk-off format. The hazard in this case would be guards attacking the players.

The second part of the stage will be a destroyed Bridge of Sorrow, which effectively has the layout of Beidge of Eldin after the Bridge breaks.

The last part is the Detention Camp, where the harzards are rats and sulphuric acid used to remove the rats.

For this one, I’m nominating one that I used in a previous thread.

 

[Perkilator]

Job #6: Classic Mode
My layout would involve branching paths where you can choose one stage between three choices.

Stage 1​	Stage 2​	Stage 3​	Bonus 1​	Stage 4​	Stage 5​	Stage 6​	Bonus 2​	Stage 7​	Final Stage​
​	​	Stage 3​	BREAK​	Stage 4​	Stage 5​	Stage 6​	BREAK​	Stage 7​	​
​	Stage 2​	Stage 3​	​	Stage 4​	Stage 5​	Stage 6​	​	Stage 7​	​
Stage 1​	Stage 2​	Stage 3​	THE​	Stage 4​	Stage 5​	Stage 6​	THE​	​	Final Stage​
​	Stage 2​	Stage 3​	​	Stage 4​	Stage 5​	Stage 6​	​	Stage 7​	​
​	​	Stage 3​	TARGETS​	Stage 4​	Stage 5​	Stage 6​	TARGETS​	Stage 7​	​

• Stages 1-6 would pit you against one of several random kinds of fights
  • 1v1
  • 2v2
  • Free-for-all
  • 3v1 against a Giant
  • 10-man horde battle
• After every 3 stages, you would be thrust into Break the Targets
  • Bonus 1's Target stage is the same difficulty level as the one you selected
  • Bonus 2's Target stage is one difficulty level higher than the one you selected
• Stage 7 is a battle against one of the bosses
• Stage 8 is the boss battle against Master Hand (and Crazy Hand, on Hard or higher)
  • If you reach Stage 8 on Hard or higher without losing a life, you instead fight Giga Bowser

 

[nirvanafan]

VR Mission

Will start flat but have certain blocks move or temporarily disappear.

 

[Northsouthmap]

Big Shell (MGS2: Sons of Liberty)

Traveling stage around the different areas, including a Fatman stage hazard.

 

[Pupp135]

For Final Smashes, there was a tie, and I’ll vote to have the meter.

For the Classic Mode layout, please vote between mine and Perkilator ’s using this poll.

Whose classic mode layout should be used? - Online Poll - StrawPoll.com

What's your opinion? Vote now: Pupp135, Perkilator...

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Here are the Metal Gear map nominations:

Pupp135 Zanzibar Island
nirvanafan VR Mission
Northsouthmap Big Shell

Vote for your two most wanted, where yours is not first.

1. Big Shell
2. Zanzibar

Job 8: Pick four items that you’d like to see return from SSB64 or Melee, and rank them.

1. Pokeball
2. Heart Container
3. Green Shell
4. Warp Star

 

[GamingFan1997]

Job #7:
1. Zanzibar
2. VR Mission

Job #8:
1. Pokeball
2. Super Scope
3. Heart Container
4. Home-Run Bat