Smash World Forum's Smash4 Ideal Roster (Current topic: Super Mario)

[Knight Dude]

I don't see the Mother series getting another rep. F-Zero seems really unlikely as well. But I'd say that Black Shadow would be kinda cool. Goroh has the popularity going for him though.

 

[_R@bid_]

Mother and FZero will just stay the same as their Brawl representation.

 

[ChronoBound]

I think the most likely scenario for F-Zero and Mother is (my vote):

F-Zero:
Captain Falcon

Mother:
Ness
Lucas

Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow getting in is certainly possible, but it does not seem among Smash Bros. fans that adding a F-Zero newcomer is a priority. A F-Zero newcomer is certainly plausible for Smash 4 though. For Mother, a newcomer is very unlikely.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

F-Zero:
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

Mother:
Ness
Lucas

 

[BKupa666]

C. Falcon
S. Goroh

Ness
Lucas

 

[Gene]

Brawl cast + Samurai Goroh

 

[Blazeth]

C. Falcon

Ness
Lucas

 

[Opossum]

Ness
Lucas

Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

 

[TheKingOfTown]

Brawl + Goroh

 

[Ultinarok]

I'm pretty sure Krystal's furry and porn popularity isn't something Sakurai will look into if he decides to include her for smash 4. Which is mostly why she has popularity.


I like the way you think PsychoIncarnate. That way everyone wins.

Yea, let's be realistic, Krystal is probably the most fapped-to Nintendo character of all time. Well eclipsing Peach or Zelda. Probably only rivaled by ZSS and Gardevoir.

On the topic of the current franchises:

Mother:
Ness
Lucas

F-Zero:
C. Falcon
C. Falcon
C. Falcon
and C. Falcon.

 

[Ultinarok]

This coming from the guy who mains Sheik in Melee? Talk about hypocritical.

He has had a change of heart because he had an epiphany and now wants Impa in. Affirmation bias concludes that someone will force themselves to dislike something in favor of a new/altered belief. So now Sheik sucks, so that Impa can be justified. Its a pretty common thing.

 

[volbound1700]

Same three from Brawl (Captain Falcon, Ness, and Lucas).

I missed the Star Fox/Metroid voting because I don't get on during the weekends but I pretty much agree with the consensus with no change other than Ridley. Perhaps Zero Suit Samus will be a seperate spot or alt from the start rather than having to use FSmash to get her.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

I'm a bit surprised by the amount of people who think Samurai Gorohs will definitely be in the new game, since the last new f-zero game was released nearly 10 years on the gba only in japan. Plus he'd be another sword user ontop of the most likely Takamaru, and probably a new Fire emblem lord (plus roy possibly returning).

Is the support because of his assist trophy? Or is he that popular?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I'm a bit surprised by the amount of people who think Samurai Gorohs will definitely be in the new game, since the last new f-zero game was released nearly 10 years on the gba only in japan. Plus he'd be another sword user ontop of the most likely Takamaru, and probably a new Fire emblem lord (plus roy possibly returning).

Is the support because of his assist trophy? Or is he that popular?

Because we like him? Also, lol at thinking that all sword users will be the same.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

Because we like him? Also, lol at thinking that all sword users will be the same.

Cool story. I like Birdo and Juliet Cinnabon.

Never said that. If you think Sakurai will choose only characters that can use swords, for you know diversities sake, good for you.

 

[dezeray112]

Captain Falcon is likely to be in. If they are going to include a newcomer from the F-Zero series, it would either be Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow.

For Earthbound, I think Ness is likely to stay and maybe Lucas. Not too sure if there are any newcomer characters I can picture making it in from the series.

 

[Shorts]

To finish this voting round I'll leave off with a tidbit, this roster is in all likelyhood going to be a bit Small, and if that's the case, at the end I'm going to pull up all the characters who were voted for at some point, and we will have a discussion about THEM specifically, to pick however many characters we feel should be added. This is a prediction roster, but it's okay to TAKE A CHANCE AND MAYBE BE WRONG, you know. Otherwise this roster is going to be a bit short.

Like Krystal, I'm taking a leap and saying Goroh will be included along with Ness, Lucas, and Falcon.

Which brings us to this scoring:
Falcon 100%
Goroh 60%
Ness 100%
Lucas 100%
Masked Man 9%
Ninten 5%

We are now moving on to: Fire Emblem

Let's see who we think is getting in. I'm excited.

 

[Autumn ♫]

All right FE. Hope there's no flame wars.
Marth
Marht
Young Marth
MArth
Grandpa Marth
Now in all seriousness
Marth
Ike
Lyn
Roy

 

[Frostwraith]

Sympathy levels have gone down to zero.

So Fire Emblem... My votes: Marth, Ike and Roy.

 

[Opossum]

Hmmm...

Marth
Ike
Roy
Chrom

 

[FlareHabanero]

Marth
Ike
Roy
Henry Lyn

 

[Deleted member]

Marth
Ike
Roy

Roy is in because he was planned for Brawl, indicating that Sakurai has interest in him. He's also very highly requested to return (especially in Japan where he is either the most wanted or the second most wanted along with Mewtwo) and can be considered the face of the Elibe trilogy.

Chrom is a possibility, but the big issues surrounding him is his "expected but not wanted" status by most people and that he doesn't stand out in his game in comparison to other Lords (Lucina's role can be argued to be as important as Chrom and FE13 is basically Fire Emblem All-Stars).

 

[N3ON]

Marth
Ike
Roy

I have no accompanying statement, I'm sick of FE discussion. See you all next series.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Marth
Ike
Roy

Roy is in because he was planned for Brawl, indicating that Sakurai has interest in him. He's also very highly requested to return (especially in Japan where he is either the most wanted or the second most wanted along with Mewtwo) and can be considered the face of the Elibe trilogy.

Chrom is a possibility, but the big issues surrounding him is his "expected but not wanted" status by most people and that he doesn't stand out in his game in comparison to other Lords (Lucina's role can be argued to be as important as Chrom and FE13 is basically Fire Emblem All-Stars).

Roy might be the face in Japan but hes definitely not in the West.
And can you stop saying nobody wants Chrom? I think we've already established that there are people who would like to see him in.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Marth
Ike
Roy
Chrom

 

[Shorts]

I think Chrom's votes on my poll kind of knock that "expected but no wanted" notion.

 

[Deleted member]

Roy might be the face in Japan but hes definitely not in the West.
And can you stop saying nobody wants Chrom? I think we've already established that there are people who would like to see him in.

I'm referring to importance in which Roy plays the biggest role in the Elibe games.

And don't put word in my mouth. I said most people expected but not wanted Chrom, no that everyone did.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

I'm referring to importance in which Roy plays the biggest role in the Elibe games.

And don't put word in my mouth. I said most people expected but not wanted Chrom, no that everyone did.

Roy appears at the end of FE7, he plays no role in it.

And you don't know that about chrom. In fact, you can't. The people you hear from are a very very small fraction of the people who will buy the game. Its not a good sample either. The people we hear from are part of the hardcore smash fan crowd. No dip Roy, who was already in smashbros is going to get a lot of support. And of course, in order to drown out competition Chrom is going to be made out as the "expected not wanted" character.
In my personal life, I know plenty of people who are excited about Chrom being in smash. But they don't sit down and debate it on boards. There are plenty of people who want Chrom and I'm even willing to bet the majority want him rather than simply expect him.
But that outlook is never going to happen in a place like smashboards.

 

[ChronoBound]

In my personal life, I know plenty of people who are excited about Chrom being in smash.\.

Every person I know in real life when I bring up Chrom with thought he would be an uninteresting addition, and scolded how Nintendo needed to make more original lords.

Really, I can't really think of a place for Chrom for Smash Bros. aside from "repping FE13".

I think if Chrom gets in, it will end the debate once and for all whether Sakurai solely goes for "whatever is recent" when choosing a FE character.

 

[D3monicWolv3s]

Marth
Ike
Roy
Lyn

I haven't played a Fire emblem game since the first one released in the US. I think Lyn would have a unique fighting style, but I don't know too much about the new lords. Maybe they'll consider her as the first lord in the game for the US, and add her. Or they can just do the most recent character. -shrugs-

 

[loganhogan]

Marth
Ike
Anna
Roy

 

[BluePikmin11]

Marth
Ike
Chrom

I don't really know about the FE series. And the fact there are too many FE characters people consider worth bringing, I'm just gonna keep it here.

 

[Shorts]

I think it's pretty obvious Sakurai goes for whatever IS suggests. And who do you think they will suggest this time? Roy's best chances IMO are if Sakurai personally wants to include him this time. Why was Ike put on higher priority then Roy? That's something we need to look at again.

That being said, I don't actually know who I'm voting for yet. Because I think Sakurai WILL want to include him this time, and I think there is a good chance he's asked IS who they wants as well. Is it a stretch to say we will get both of them? I don't know.

 

[•Col•]

I'm gonna say...

Marth
Ike
Roy
Robin

I do feel like Fire Emblem is deserving of four spots, but I'm not entirely who to put into the fourth.. Lyn has a decent amount of followers, she was an AT in Brawl, and she was technically the first international lord... She has issues with relevancy and importance though. While I don't particularly care for Chrom, I'm not really against him either, and a representative for the successful FE13 doesn't sound bad. Although at the same time, I feel like in the end he IS kinda bland and if we need a FE13 rep, why not someone like Robin(My Avatar)? Literally the only issue I have with Robin though is that being the customizable character, he kinda lacks a uniform look. Everyone customized his/her looks and even named them separately. However I do feel like My Avatar is going to become a mainstay for the series in the future so there's that. As for Anna, I can definitely see her as a mascot for the FE series in general, but at the same time, for people who haven't played FE13(where she first appeared as a playable character), I can definitely understand a lot of people going 'Who is Anna?'. Perhaps she would fit better in the next Smash game if she has further playable roles. I dunno.

So yeah, can't really decide on that fourth spot. I'm open to people trying to persuade me, though. :3c

 

[Gingerbread Man]

So yeah, can't really decide on that fourth spot. I'm open to people trying to persuade me, though. :3c

The director for FE13, who likely will be consulted, said in an interview that his favorite character is Robin. Considering that they already tackled the issue of a non-conflicting appearances in the cut scenes I don't see why he wouldn't at least bring it up. Plus a character using tomes is without a doubt a good thing to add to the FE roster.

 

[N3ON]

I know I said I wouldn't show up til the next discussion, but like usual, I'm having trouble keeping my mouth shut. I could understand if this was a "wishlist" roster, but do people really think Lyn is going to be added at this point? Really? I mean now does she not only have Roy, who has increased in popularity, and Ike, who will receive backlash if cut as competition, who she previously "lost" to, but now she also has the possibility of an Awakening character being added against her. She didn't make it when she was the most popular, and as "recent" as she's probably ever going to get. She wasn't even planned last time (as far as we know). I can understand why people would like to play as her, and she could definitely work, but anyone actually seriously expecting her at this point is a little misguided.

 

[•Col•]

The director for FE13, who likely will be consulted, said in an interview that his favorite character is Robin. Considering that they already tackled the issue of a non-conflicting appearances in the cut scenes I don't see why he wouldn't at least bring it up. Plus a character using tomes is without a doubt a good thing to add to the FE roster.

I will say that out of potential FE13 reps(Chrom/Lucina/Robin), that I am DEFINITELY leaning toward Robin. He/she is important within the game, seems to be one of the favorite characters of FE13, and the MyAvatar feature aspect most likely returning in FE games gives the character a lot of credit. The fact that he/she could have a unique playstyle is just a bonus in the end.

The only problem is that there are a lot of people that default to Chrom when looking for a FE13 rep so I'm not sure if Robin would actually prevail over him. The fact that Robin the the FE13 director's favorite character definitely helps though.

I know I said I wouldn't show up til the next discussion, but like usual, I'm having trouble keeping my mouth shut. I could understand if this was a "wishlist" roster, but do people really think Lyn is going to be added at this point? Really? I mean now does she not only have Roy, who has increased in popularity, and Ike, who will receive backlash if cut as competition, who she previously "lost" to, but now she also has the possibility of an Awakening character being added against her. She didn't make it when she was the most popular, and as "recent" as she's probably ever going to get. She wasn't even planned last time (as far as we know). I can understand why people would like to play as her, and she could definitely work, but anyone actually seriously expecting her at this point is a little misguided.

The only reason I feel that she has a chance is because I do feel like Fire Emblem could end up with four spots on the roster. Series like Kirby and Star Fox gets three characters, and Fire Emblem certainly feels BIGGER to me, so I don't see why not really. Out of the four characters I listed for that fourth slot, Lyn probably is the least likely... But I added her only because I felt the other potential candidates had problem themselves as well, thus increasing her chance. I don't think it's impossible for her to get in, at least.

 

[BKupa666]

Marth
Ike
Roy

Roy with his new design both "represents" modern Fire Emblem, while satisfying the fanbase far more than Chrom could ever hope to do.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well personally, I simply went with Lyn mainly because she does have a fair amount of fans out there and would be generally be more well received them Chrom/Lucina. Though at the same time, there's not going to any hard pressing for the character so it's not going to be a deal breaker if she shows up or not. There are doubts of inclusion, but I will say that Lyn would be a more well received character in the long run if we had to get a 4th character. Recentness be damned, all of the Lords from past games came back and the new main characters introduced in Fire Emblem: Awakening are pretty flimsy.

 

[kikaru]

Marth
Ike
Roy
Chrom (If we get 4)