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This is ENTIRELY subjective. I went bat**** for Shulk and Bowser Jr. "Hype" characters is can be whatever people make them out to be. We could get Banjo, Geno, and Isaac as final characters, or we could get Prince Sable and a group of people will be hyped about the character no matter what everyone thinks..
Not to mention, every veteran returning, all characters being revealed before the game launches, and being released in the same year it was announced also has never happened. Their marketing strategy may have changed accordingly.
My bet is that final reveal goes to a new franchise character(see shulk and Olimar) or a third party( see bayo)
While I think Mickey's likeness being present in Sora's design as a Smash Bros. fighter is unlikely, I really can't say it's impossible. I'm not Sakurai; I don't get to decide what is or isn't possible.
You still have to consider, though, the way they want to market it. Saving the best character for last may be enjoyable for us as fans losing ourselves to our own hype, but what use is it to the company trying to sell their game to keep a massive, customer-winning reveal for right before the game launches? You don't get to use that character as early promotion or on the box art to draw fans' eyes. There's a reason they finished with less exciting characters in the previous two installments and, I'd argue, it has nothing to do with fan input being a larger factor now than before.
To be fair.
...I mean you need to consider that this is entirely subjective what we consider “Exciting” since in Japan Shulk was a HUGE reveal for them, he was literally one of their most requested characters by a long shot, and you also have to consider that there were characters revealed after release so I’d argue that it still does matter pleasing the fans, as Sakurai said, this game is aimed less are the casual demographic and more at the core demographic, so reveals still aimed at them even close to release make sense.
Nobody does besides the people in suits working the game behind the scenes.
That idea of yours reminds me of this one old Jimmy Neutron song, except replace "I have the Ring!" with "I have the Leak!"It's not, no. But you'd think that if even the slightest peep gets out, how are they going to tell who is "leaking" and who isn't if thousands of people are saying Sora is in at once? Surely that'd be a red flag if that was what they were looking out for
I just felt a weird wave of nostalgia hit me because my brain immediately remembered the lyrics (...simple as they are) and melody as soon as I hit play.
How are we gonna have a leak discussion thread without discussion
When did Vergeben start talking about the Square character?
The ESRB rating has been around for a while, though, so I doubt it's been gold for that long. Games usually go gold about a month/month and a half before release, so I imagine it's probably getting pretty close now.
I mean that there hasn't been a new actual AC game since New Leaf launched in 2012.
good point. and this is something thats concerned me. I hope sakurai didnt just bust out all the big guns early on, creating all this crazy speculation to just tell us oh well thats pretty much it, but heres a couple of characters that no one cares about.
Sure is subjective, but if we go accordingly to this "no one liked BUT im a special snowflake that did get hyped due to x thing" then everything is hype. In fact it might be the case, but if we go to a general consensus the vast majority would agree that bjr and shulk were "meh" at best, nothing close to a HUGE or hype reveal.
You know what's funny? I had started out the reply with "I know it's not an established rule", but I got busy, page was exited, then I came back, started writing the same thing, then accidentally exited, so by the 3rd time, I just went the quicker route and shortened by post. It had been a lot longer lol.I was wondering when someone'd take the bait
Just wanna go ahead and say that's never been a rule.
And if that's the only thing Riku has going against him, then I feel even better about it
If the Disney stuff genuinely mattered for some reason, and if every party involved felt better about it, they'll include a secondary character regardless of what people on a forum thinks made sense, no?
And if we were to go off that "lose their job thing", I'd hardly doubt it'd be Sora (or Geno for that matter). Dude already appears everywhere in thousands of rumors. If it was a big deal to have "Sora in Smash" everywhere I don't think that would have even been brought up.
Riku is pretty obviously a more absurd guess, but definitely not impossible.
This is only a thought experiment more or less trying to point out that there's no rule and the SE character could be anyone. There's nothing about what we already know that implicates anyone being the character.
Nothing happened. People are having a more or less superfluous conversation about whether or not Disney would bar Sora from being in because of one thing or another.
Ninka Kiwi leaked the entire remaining Smash 4 roster, including Dr. Mario and Dark Pit, over a month before the ESRB leak, and his source could have leaked it at least pre-E3 2014 if they shared the details sooner. Additionally Sonic was a late inclusion in Brawl and he still got leaked. Being a later included character doesn't prevent them from leaking, Gematsu was the exception because it was early information (and even then Gematsu also missed Robin, Duck Hunt, Bowser Jr, and possibly Rosalina, so it wasn't complete information regardless).
Correction on that, the existence of the SE character came from his main Smash source, the name of the SE character came from a "random guy" he does not know the legitimacy of.
You really can't listen to such DLC statements from a PR person pre-release, developers/PR person usually won't admit to planning DLC before the game releases due to the stigma against DLC and cries of "they were holding back content to sell!", while some DLC is usually started before the game is done. This exactly happened in Smash 4, where Sakurai first said "DLC wasn't in the cards" when asked early in Smash 4's development, and then later said "we'll consider DLC only after the game releases", however the timeline of the DLC characters shows that is unfeasible; besides Mewtwo being revealed with a complete model before the Wii U version released and a month after the 3DS version's Japanese release, Sakurai has claimed that a new Smash character takes over a year to make, while Ryu released within 9 months of 3DS' Japanese release, making it improbable that Lucas/Roy/Ryu began development after it was done.
Well, now we can even push further to say that we know he have a list of SE-characters names that are around, but since they're all Fake Trap, he don't want to give the list and ruin people's job.
Of course I'm willing to admit it. In fact, I was literally mentioning it because it's unlikely. I don't disagree with the fact it probably won't happen.
I don't think obvious is the best word to use here.
That's why it's fun.
That's because think the wrong thing is likely, probably.
You're good, my dude. It was intentionally a controversial post to open up conversation on an unlikely possibility. Most of the time if you bring something up that has a non-zero chance but otherwise isn't likely to happen, people tend to become overly emotional and bring up stupid arguments like "BUHHHH SHREK!!!". Figure this way, it would give people no real room to do that and yet still converse over an unlikely character.
People do. Just know I am not one of them. It is virtually impossible to disappoint me at this point, which is why I brazenly decided to guess unlikely things. If I'm wrong, then I lose nothing and some people extra up in their ass about me saying things win the ability to rub it in my face- fair enough. If i'm right, then it kinda just proves the point that these are all only inferences we're making based on patterns and trying to extrapolate on behaviors of companies that we can't possibly truly know the intention of. If Sakurai wants to put Riku in instead of Sora, he probably will. Would he be as popular as Sora? Probably not. Would it generate more clickbaity "Sora didn't get in but...." media attention? Yeah. I'd say so.
It's a very plausible and likely scenario.
Plausible and Likely Scenario
ikr we're quite clearly getting
Yep, I know, which is why we discussed it literally every day before the Ken leak.
Calm yourself, Mr. President.
He totally would tho.
Makes sense, thanks.
I would normally say "I don't think that actually has any bearing on what'll happen" but honestly it doesn't even matter because I'm positive that the last character revealed will probably be the first DLC character anyway.
We know Lucas and Roy had assets from Brawl to use while I get a feeling that Ryu was an idea that they toyed with for the initial release but probably ran out of time or prioritized other characters (which by all accounts sounds like Bowser Jr/the Koopalings was a "kids in the backseat screaming for McDonald's" kind of scenario) especially given that Capcom was already on board from the beginning. I could see Ryu being one of those characters that was borderline ready to go before being put on the cutting room floor in a conspicuous place to be picked up later.
