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Yeah. It's given nonbelievers like myself hope that something will happen that will completely destroy Vergeben's credibility, like what Robin & Lucina's reveal trailer did to Gematsu.
and it's also foolish to 100% believe in something even like a credible leaker, because those things aren't 100%
I don't understand why people act like real leakers don't exist.
...but it didn’t?
Easy: Incineroar isn't confirmed. Even confirmed definitely real leakers are wrong once in awhile. Music Theory doesn't have to defend itself. It's not dead.
Yeah, but here's the thing, even if nothing happens to destroy Vergeben's credibility, this still kills the music theory, which is also a good thing
Let's really be honest here: Incineroar basically is confirmed at this point.
Maybe? I'm just thinking of possiblities and in the situation something had to change or something went wrong, they could decide to delay the character. Anythings possible
But, it will take a character that he says is playable shown in another way. Gematsu said Chrom was in and Chrom ended up being a cameo in Robin's Final Smash.
Ah there's theory one
How so? I’d like to hear your reasoning even if it is “stretching it”
That'd be nice but I want my Wario music and I want it NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
I dunno, I just feel like the music theory and the box theory support each other in a way. Like they're both strong evidence for there not being many characters left, but I feel like if one of them gets proven false (like the music theory now) then the other one loses some credence. Like this increases the likelihood that Incineroar and Ken are not the only ones left.
If we were ignoring echos, then Ken would have been deconfirmed too.
Music Theory shouldn't even be alive in the first place, it always had too many "exceptions" for it. Verg, on the other hand, has gotten nothing wrong and only right so I question why I should believe something the fans made up or the guy who called no cuts, Ridley and Simon Belmont.
I agree. When Sakurai said not to expect too many newcomers as a result of all veterans returning, and that we had two Pokemon veterans returning (one of which was actually three fighters in one) that a Pokemon rep wasn't necessary. After all, in a limited roster, another Pokemon rep means less chance of a first party newcomer from a new series. And, personally, I'd rather have a Digimon rep like Agumon to add a more interesting dynamic, especially considering Bandai Namco is making the game. And I've never been a fan of the argument of having a rep for a sake of a rep--"Smash always needs a new Pokemon", "Smash always needs a weird retro character", "Smash always needs an off-the-wall character".
The theory isn't dead until we get a character reveal that disproves it.
Most of what Vergeben got right was very easy to get.
You're over exaggerating the amount things that have had to change in the Music theory. The music theory is still consistent with not repeating franchises and is still consistent with songs coming before newcomers.
Isabelle uses an old song for her trailer, didn't mean anything.
Let's not start this again.
Ridley, Snake, no cuts, Isabelle, Simon Belmont, potentially Ken
I'll never understand why people froth with hate towards Verge.Can't wait for a whole bunch of people who previously thought the music theory was dumb and wrong now flop over because it would disprove Vergeben.
It's already happening on gamefaqs.
I think what me and others are trying to say is that this doesn't really seem to change anything. It's kinda like how we all knee-jerked and thought Coro Coro's 108 stages killed the box. The only thing that could kill Music Theory is Incineroar's confirmation at this point. This does cast some doubt on Music Theory, but only if you believe it to literally be impossible for Verge to be wrong, which there is no current evidence saying that he can't be wrong other than opinion and track record, which Gematsu also had going for it.
