Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Jetsurge]

Pichu’s ans Wolf’s skins! pic.twitter.com/pGprqNlgL3

— Elira (@_Elira_) November 2, 2018

Spiky-eared Pichu is a Pichu skin!

 

[Deleted member]

The chairs meant nothing, but why else would there be two dice with Nobody symbols from Kingdom Hearts?

I didn't even know they were from Kingdom Hearts until it was pointed out (I haven't played the games), but no one seemed to disagree with it the last time it was brought up.


There's this 4chan thread:
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/437352230

Here's a clearer(sorta) view of the background:

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edit: 'd

Damn, Spawn Wave has been on a roll with breaking out the new info. Hopefully his hints at Sora @ The Game Awards are tru --

* sees this *

Y I K E S .

 

[Nimbostratus]

I dont understand WHY people forget so much about CRONO on this board.

My god! Do you guys realy don't think Chrono Trigger have chances in Smash!?

Explain that to me please.

Chrono Trigger is well regarded, but it isn't particularly relevant or oft requested by the general public (for Smash, at least. RIP Chrono Break trademark and all fan projects). Characters that haven't been center stage in a long time can still gain wide popularity in the right conditions, like Geno, but it just hasn't materialized for Crono. Other Square characters like Geno or Sora also get name dropped by leaks and insiders and are likely to make more of a profit through DLC, further leaving Crono in the dust.
... Which is really too bad, as Crono would easily be my first Square choice, and second third-party choice overall after Banjo. Gosh, that game is good.
I've actually seen his name come up more in this speculation cycle than last time, so at least that's something.

 

[TVDart]

I dont understand WHY people forget so much about CRONO on this board.

My god! Do you guys realy don't think Chrono Trigger have chances in Smash!?

Explain that to me please.

The idea of Square Enix doing anything with Chrono Trigger that isn't absolutely horrible is just so baffling to general audiences that they don't even consider him as an option.

 

[Noipoi]

Maybe if Piranha Plant's Final Smash was Naval Piranha and not Petey Piranha and had the Yoshi symbol, I would buy that...

Eh, It was just an idea.

I wanna do two eight player Smashes, each with four of the original 8 and their respective villains. When I got to Yoshi I figured Piranha Plant could work.

 

[KMDP]

Man I can only hope so much...

Medusa would be kewl...

He has no chance in Smash. He's not relevant. He was only in one game, to my knowledge, that was released on the SNES and re-released in the 2000s on the DS. DLC characters need to be relevant or iconic if they want to sell well. They need to be popular. Chrono is neither relevant nor iconic. And I don't think he's all that popular with the general Smash fans (the larger community). Maybe if he had a popular game that was released after 2010, then he might have a chance, but he's a dead character from a dead series with only one game. He will never be a DLC fighter in Smash Bros

Technically, Crono had a cameo appearance in Chrono Cross, not that this changes your point at all.

That being said, Chrono Trigger is considered one of the greatest RPGs (if not video games in general) of all time.

The only problem is that it's sequel (which was insanely ambitious) pretty much killed the franchise (for a multitude of reasons which aren't fully clear to me, maybe someone more versed in the Chrono series can explain).

 

[Deleted member]

This is what I get for thinking they were gonna show my boi some respect (there's his FS, but that's really it...)

*Sigh* At least Ridley and K. Rool have cool black color swaps...

Wait a second...Tougon got me thinking, has anyone gotten Wario's alts yet? Has white Wario returned!? If Wario's color swaps still suck, I need to know now. I'd rather not have my heart broken on Dec. 7th.

 

[SvartWolf]

I've only ever heard of her when my gacha obsessed friend told me a bout a spinoff granblue game featuring her:

She looks ****ING AWESOME.

But hoooooly ****, do I still absolutely hate Gacha games.
I'm conflicted.

as far as i know... she is not even the main character of the series.. she is like some kind of profesor oak... but she may star this spinof game (developed by platinium) but not even granblue fans are entirely sure.

the thing regarding katalyna is that.. she may not be teh protagonist.. but she seriously looks like teh best choice., plus her design is one of the more sensate and less "outright porn" (maybe thats why she would be chosen?) to the point that i might actually like her a lot if she is chosen, but dunno if i would feel teh same way if we get another granblue character XD (specially teh more waifu ones)

regarding the porn issue.. i didn't saw much people pulling teh "porn" card when pyhra was being talked... DX and if you ask me.. if granblue is looking to expand its audience, she may be the best bet.

 

[Robertman2]

Okay but does Tekken have an amusement park attraction in Japan?

You seem to be doubting the Tales of series' popularity.

Sora: Uses Flowmotion to evade some of them like Lucario and Greninja did, only to get got. Either that or tries to use reflect magic or guard with the Keyblade only to meet a similar fate to Link and Zelda.

Joker: Calls Satanael and tries to shoot at Galeem only for Satanael to go down before Joker himself.

Yeah, but it seems like the Granblue character is the Japan bait. Tekken is popular around the whole world.

 

[Xgears]

I've only ever heard of her when my gacha obsessed friend told me a bout a spinoff granblue game featuring her:

She looks ****ING AWESOME.

But hoooooly ****, do I still absolutely hate Gacha games.
I'm conflicted.

Yeah, gonna pass on that one. I'm still bothered by the fact the pass has 5 characters that we don't know who they are and they're just expecting for us to buy them. You're pretty screwed if you don't like any of them.

 

[Pyra]

K. Rool's upsmash
I love it
What the ****

 

[Capybara Gaming]

OH MY GOD

IT ACTUALLY MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

https://old.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9toe7t/it_all_makes_sense_now/

 

[Nethermoosen]

Every time Sora comes up it makes me wish I had a PS4 so I could understand the hype this character is supposedly bringing.

If you didn’t play it earlier on, then the story will be difficult to appreciate. It was a marvel of it’s time and going back to it raises questions about it’s worth. The 2nd one stood the test of time for me, though. The third is because so can’t wait to see how they took one of my favorite series.

I still cannot say I particularly enjoyed the story or mechanics of most of the hand-held offshoots.

 

[Deleted member]

K. Rool's upsmash
I love it
What the ****

It's one of his best animations, and that's saying something.

 

[kylexv]

I think most people don't want Katalina for 2 reasons

• Literally who
• Anime Swords(wo)man

It's everything the Smash community hates

 

[KingofKoopas]

Maybe if Piranha Plant's Final Smash was Naval Piranha and not Petey Piranha and had the Yoshi symbol, I would buy that...

Not that its related to anything but today i learned the blew pirannah plants from Yoshi's Island were named Hootie the Blowfish... That seems like the most awesome thing ever.

 

[Robertman2]

@Shroob since you know lots about Granblue, how can we play it over here in Murica?

Download an APK. It's fully translated into English already

 

[Zinith]

Eh, It was just an idea.

I wanna do two eight player Smashes, each with four of the original 8 and their respective villains. When I got to Yoshi I figured Piranha Plant could work.

At least it's not as big of a stretch as *shudders* . At least PP is actually in the games...

 

[ErenJager]

Pichu’s ans Wolf’s skins! pic.twitter.com/pGprqNlgL3

— Elira (@_Elira_) November 2, 2018

Spiky-eared Pichu is a Pichu skin!

Okay, this is epic

 

[SigmaMewtwo]

I dont understand WHY people forget so much about CRONO on this board.

My god! Do you guys realy don't think Chrono Trigger have chances in Smash!?

Explain that to me please.

As happy as I would be with any SE rep as DLC, I'd absolutely lose it if Crono actually made it into Ultimate as DLC. Chrono Trigger left a lasting impression on me when I first played it, and made me a lifelong fan of RPGs, and I'd love any representation of it in Smash. If only we'd gotten Chrono Break way back when, then the Chrono series would probably still be alive and kicking today... it feels like a distant memory now.

Anyway, I'm going to hold out hope that he could make it in, even if his chances are slim. Sora is more widely recognized by gamers (and I'd admittedly love to see him as well, as a big fan of KH), DQ is huge in Japan (and another solid choice in my opinion for a rep), and while Geno's chances don't feel that great now, he'd still make for a good pick for DLC to pay tribute to SMRPG fans. That's also not discounting other viable choices they have in their catalog as well, such as Lara Croft, 2B, and a Bravely rep among others. SE really does have a rich, diverse catalog of IPs they could pull from for more representation in Smash, so I could honestly see something we aren't quite expecting make it in.

I'm really curious as to just who will make it in though. Whoever does get chosen is bound to be well-represented, considering just how much Sakurai loves to pay homage to each character's source material, especially among third parties.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Falcon defeated by, today's a good day.

Damn, Spawn Wave has been on a roll with breaking out the new info. Hopefully his hints at Sora @ The Game Awards are tru --

* sees this *

Y I K E S .

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Just when you thought the Room Theory got killed, it rose back from the dead...

 

[Graizen]

He has no chance in Smash. He's not relevant. He was only in one game, to my knowledge, that was released on the SNES and re-released in the 2000s on the DS. DLC characters need to be relevant or iconic if they want to sell well. They need to be popular. Chrono is neither relevant nor iconic. And I don't think he's all that popular with the general Smash fans (the larger community). Maybe if he had a popular game that was released after 2010, then he might have a chance, but he's a dead character from a dead series with only one game. He will never be a DLC fighter in Smash Bros

So Chrono Trigger is NOT iconic? HOW?

Chrono Trigger was a critical and commercial success upon release, and is frequently cited as one of the best video games of all time. Nintendo Power magazine described aspects of Chrono Trigger as revolutionary, including its multiple endings, plot-related sidequests focusing on character development, unique battle system, and detailed graphics. Chrono Trigger was the third best-selling game of 1995, shipping over two million copies by March 2003. The Nintendo DS version sold 790,000 copies by March 2009. Chrono Trigger was also ported to i-mode mobile phones, Virtual Console, the PlayStation Network, iOS devices, Android devices, and Microsoft Windows.

It's the most memorable Square Enix exclusive game of all time.
And just to remember, in Smash Brawl time people REALY wanted him in the game.

 

[kylexv]

OH MY GOD

IT ACTUALLY MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

https://old.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9toe7t/it_all_makes_sense_now/

LITERALLY EVERYONE IS HERE

 

[KMDP]

K. Rool's upsmash
I love it
What the ****

Does anyone have the animation on hand so I can see it?

 

[Guynamednelson]

DLC characters need to be relevant or iconic if they want to sell well

With the season pass, people are gonna have to deal with any sort of literal who or anime swordsman they add.

 

[MyDude213]

Sigran101 said:
Smash is on a very dangerous path right now. I've never been mad at a reveal before. Disappointed, sure. But every character so far has been a worthy inclusion in some way, and for many people a dream come true. Until piranha plant. Being a smash bros character means nothing now. There's no requirement. There's no status needed. Smash characters can just be whatever now and it doesn't matter. Pirahna plant is a blemish on the roster and I would rather get no freebie than have this character. It legitimately ruins the roster somewhat for me. Now we may be getting a third party mobile game character. What a truly ****ty idea. It's basically the equivalent of getting a clash of clans character. And steve. I have nothing against minecraft. I like minecraft. But steve is just a knockoff lego man with practically no animations. Another garbage character. And the square nix character may just be ****ing slime. Generic enemy number 2. This is a ****ing ****show if it's true. It doesn't mean anything now. This may be my last smash game. I love the whole base roster. I think I'll keep it untarnished by avoiding the dlc and then stay away from smash in the future if Verg is right. It makes me incredibly sad because smash has always been one of my favorite series. But if this is the kind of content we have to look forward to then I'm out.


Now I can't be the only person thinking this clearly sounds like the rant of someone who clearly has no idea about what they're talking about. First off now I know i'm probably the only person thinking this but Pirahna Plant actually makes plenty amount of sense despite what this guy thinks he is plenty iconic. When you think Mario regular enemies you think of three main enemies goomba, koopa, and Pirahna Plant. He's an enemy that's been there since the first real Mario Bros game they are literally the third enemy you see on the very first level. Not to mention that let's not beat around the bush but out of the all the starter enemies Pirahna Plant is probably the most interesting/ cool looking design wise and they are an instantly recognizable character. So I wouldn't say that Pirahna Plant means that the roster means nothing just that people didn't think it would happen because they couldn't envision a kit for him but Sakurai did so it happened. "Blemish on the roster" is just an entitled as **** asinine claim Pirahna Plant looks fun to play and that's what matters, Look I get you're butthurt x or y character you wanted added got deconfirmed but to call a fighter that actually looks like fun because it isn't what you personally wanted is childish as **** and you need to check your bias.

 

[Deleted member]

The Room Theory

**** son, I'm going to be a Tommy Wiseau main forever.

 

[Cereal Bawks]

I think most people don't want Katalina for 2 reasons

• Literally who
• Anime Swords(wo)man

It's everything the Smash community hates

It's funny because everyone wants more female characters. They just don't want that one.

 

[Idon]

as far as i know... she is not even the main character of the series.. she is like some kind of profesor oak... but she may star this spinof game (developed by platinium) but not even granblue fans are entirely sure.

the thing regarding katalyna is that.. she may not be teh protagonist.. but she seriously looks like teh best choice., plus her design is one of the more sensate and less "outright porn" (maybe thats why she would be chosen?) to the point that i might actually like her a lot if she is chosen, but dunno if i would feel teh same way if we get another granblue character XD (specially teh more waifu ones)

regarding the porn issue.. i didn't saw much people pulling teh "porn" card when pyhra was being talked... DX and if you ask me.. if granblue is looking to expand its audience, she may be the best bet.

Honestly...
who gives a **** about fan-made porn?
It exists in every genre, and anyone who's been online knows this.
Hell, Nintendo themselves know this when they themselves when they A-OKed Bayonetta.

 

[XLIFE]

I dont understand WHY people forget so much about CRONO on this board.

My god! Do you guys realy don't think Chrono Trigger have chances in Smash!?

Explain that to me please.

You right. We're sleeping hard on Crono. I'm gonna add him to my DLC likelihood list.

I will stick by my boy Erdrick's side regardless though.

 

[Kuon]

Medusa would be kewl...

Technically, Crono had a cameo appearance in Chrono Cross, not that this changes your point at all.

That being said, Chrono Trigger is considered one of the greatest RPGs (if not video games in general) of all time.

The only problem is that it's sequel (which was insanely ambitious) pretty much killed the franchise (for a multitude of reasons which aren't fully clear to me, maybe someone more versed in the Chrono series can explain).

I've only played a tiny bit of Chrono Trigger (because I didn't like it) but yeah, even if it's considered one of the greatest games of all time doesn't mean it'll sell well as DLC since a lot of the younger, casual fans may not know about it

 

[Nekoo]

Honestly...
who gives a **** about fan-made porn?

Yeah...
Who?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Man, these leaks are already dehyping me for the DLC. I'm already at the point of wondering if I should even bother with the pass.

I guess I just need to experience the game for myself to hype back up. Or for Vergy to leak Dovahkiin and it be legit.

 

[Rockaphin]

I'm digging 's addition a lot. With all the details and changes he's pretty much echo in name only and more semi clone. I'll try adding him to the mains list.

Crazy that to think my favorite newcomer would be an Echo Fighter of all things. I mean, I would've been excited to have a Ryu clone but they went all out with all kinds of different properties. Even had a CGI trailer for the reveal, but I'm not as surprised as some may be. Ken is a huge gaming icon.

Weird to think Ken, the echo fighter, got his own CGI trailer while Ryu didn't. If I'm not mistaken, Ryu's trailer used his in-game model.

 

[Deleted member]

Crono's ineligible because no Dragon Ball characters. Stop bringing him up, he's not happening, end of story.

 

[Noipoi]

Does anyone have the animation on hand so I can see it?

I don't have a gif, but I do have this.

He points his body up, then falls forwards and planks.
It's beautiful.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

OH MY GOD

IT ACTUALLY MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

https://old.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9toe7t/it_all_makes_sense_now/

Man, I'm telling you, Spirits and World of Light both sound amazing.
Makes me pretty happy that there are at least 5 Rhythm Heaven spirits...

 

[ErenJager]

I think most people don't want Katalina for 2 reasons

• Literally who
• Anime Swords(wo)man

It's everything the Smash community hates

Which literally makes it that much more likely.
Smash 4 DLC ended the same way.

 

[Jetsurge]

K. Rool's upsmash
I love it
What the ****

It's a gangPlank

 

[Radical Bones]

Pichu has a Team Skull bandana.

New main.

I'm doing this for you, Guzma <3