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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Oh hey! We're talkin' about Midna and Zelda up in here?



I'm in.
 
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I seriously want to see Steve in mostly for the Minecraft stage.

I would love to see him just for a cool morphing stage.
 
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*Whenever Steve gets brought up and makes everyone mad but you unironically have him in your top 3 wishlist*

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IDK whether I'd come here to celebrate or go in a bunker after the reveal, TBH.
honestly I really don't get the hate for Steve, he's a perfectly good choice tbh and one of the few likely MS reps.

Seems like most of the people who won't entertain the very idea of Steve in Smash want a different MS rep like Banjo or Chief
 
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I know Minecraft is a big part of the gaming industry but I really can’t imagine that out of all Western 3rd Parties that they would pick for the first time.

It would be Steve...Japan probably don’t even know who he is as a character.
 

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*Whenever Steve gets brought up and makes everyone mad but you unironically have him in your top 3 wishlist*

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IDK whether I'd come here to celebrate or go in a bunker after the reveal, TBH.
He's in my top ten because half of me wants to see a trash fire turn around
 
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Oh hey! We're talkin' about Midna and Zelda up in here?



I'm in.
ok so now that everyone is here let me begin my talk on why midna belongs with link more then any other character is twilight princess. in this essay i will
 

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I know Minecraft is a big part of the gaming industry but I really can’t imagine that out of all Western 3rd Parties that they would pick for the first time.

It would be Steve...Japan probably don’t even know who he is as a character.
Japan most certainly knows what Minecraft is, and "big part of the gaming industry" is underselling it. The only game in history to sell more than Minecraft is ****ing Tetris.

I don't want Steve, but let's not make untrue assumptions about the game he's from.
 

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Could be the Infinite jab of scale tippings
Scale tipping!?.. the green slicer you mean?
...yeeeeeah, I hammered that challenge. I’m not good enough with Robin to be able to do that, and I wanted to get all of the music.

At this point, I only need to get the “beat a L9” challenges, which I’ll get eventually with Link or Zelda, and the “KO with three meteors” one which I have no clue for (anybody got tips for someone who’s not really good at this?). And the “Beat the last boss without getting KOd,” but I may have to set it to easy to just get that. I’ve still got 7 hammers, and I’ll probably just go nuts on the online table once I’m done since I don’t play online.
Hammer, that's the short answer.
KO with meteor, is that you need to KO 3 L9s with a meteor move (Dr.Mario's down smash in air for example).
Beat the final round without being KOd, is that you need to fight Galeem and Dharkon together in the final round/stage without being KOd. There're 3 rounds in that fight. Fighting characters, fighting bosses and then fighting G&D. They mean the G&D one.

Edit: I too have zero unlocks on the online board. Still not convinced to go Nintendo online.. though if Goemon got in I'll subscribe to whatever they want :)
Maybe I'll do it someday. But hey, you don't need to go nuts.. there's a guy aiming to be the worst Smash player XD .. that was original and funny. You can compete there ;)
It's Robin's jab. You also need to do it in a timed battle or else it won't work.
TIIIIIME!.. hmm, thank you. I'll try that. (They didn't specify it has to be a timed battle though :/)
 
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ugh the only challenge I have left is the "win in all the battles" one.

...this'll take a while
 
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Oh hey! We're talkin' about Midna and Zelda up in here?



I'm in.
I'm always down to talk about the best Zelda character.

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Don't get me wrong, I adore Majora's Mask, but Midna is probably one of the best written, most developed character in the Zelda franchise IMO. Her story is a huge reason why I like TP as much as, if not even a little more depending on my mood, than BotW.
 

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Japan most certainly knows what Minecraft is, and "big part of the gaming industry" is underselling it. The only game in history to sell more than Minecraft is ****ing Tetris.

I don't want Steve, but let's not make untrue assumptions about the game he's from.
And Tetris's sales are counted from every version of the game ever released, including 2018's Tetris Effect, so it's an unfair comparison to make in the first place.

I can perfectly understand the myriad reasons people don't want Steve, but to question why Sakurai might look to represent literally the most popular video game of all time in a celebration of video games is in itself questionable.
 

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I'm always down to talk about the best Zelda character.

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Don't get me wrong, I adore Majora's Mask, but Midna is probably one of the best written, most developed character in the Zelda franchise IMO. Her story is a huge reason why I like TP as much as, if not even a little more depending on my mood, than BotW.
Hot take.

Midna and her realm over Urbosa and Skyloft…

Man Skyward is weird. Urbosa is the best in BOTW but she's dead so.... eh?
 
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Minecraft is as valid as any other franchise to enter Smash.
It works as the first western third party franchise with fighters too.

And while i don’t care so much about Steve, i would for sure buy him if we get a dope stage.
 

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ugh the only challenge I have left is the "win in all the battles" one.

...this'll take a while
Just reading the guide, and is there really a challenge that requires a battle with 8 human players? If so, sure, hammers are available, but what a jab at me...
 

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And Tetris's sales are counted from every version of the game ever released, including 2018's Tetris Effect, so it's an unfair comparison to make in the first place.

I can perfectly understand the myriad reasons people don't want Steve, but to question why Sakurai might look to represent literally the most popular video game of all time in a celebration of video games is in itself questionable.


And everything I've wanted said on the topic has been said. Time to clock out.
 

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Japan most certainly knows what Minecraft is, and "big part of the gaming industry" is underselling it. The only game in history to sell more than Minecraft is ****ing Tetris.

I don't want Steve, but let's not make untrue assumptions about the game he's from.
Steve as a character, not Minecraft itself.

Of course Japan know what it is, who the hell doesn’t?
 
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Steve as a character, not Minecraft itself.

Of course Japan know what it is, who the hell doesn’t?
Seeing as how he's on the box art, logo, and everything related to the game with Alex I'd say they're both pretty well recognized.
 

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curious, how much has DQB 1 and 2 sold in comparison to minecraft in japan
I don't know about direct comparisons, but Minecraft was the best selling Nintendo Switch game for the entire first half of 2018. And that was like the umpteenth version of the damn game.

Steve as a character, not Minecraft itself.

Of course Japan know what it is, who the hell doesn’t?
Okay, uh. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. If they know what Minecraft is, how would they not know who Steve is?



I mean, the likeness is subtle, but I'm pretty sure anyone looking at him knows he's from Minecraft.
 
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I don't know about direct comparisons, but Minecraft was the best selling Nintendo Switch game for the entire first half of 2018. And that was like the umpteenth version of the damn game.
there's also the fact that, almost 8 years on from its full out-of-beta release (and approaching an entire decade from its first alpha release), minecraft hasn't left the eshop's top 5 best sellers once

to say it's got sticking power on pretty much every platform it's been released on would be a gross understatement
 

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I don't know about direct comparisons, but Minecraft was the best selling Nintendo Switch game for the entire first half of 2018. And that was like the umpteenth version of the damn game.


Okay, uh. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. If they know what Minecraft is, how would they not know who Steve is?



I mean, the likeness is subtle, but I'm pretty sure anyone looking at him knows he's from Minecraft.
you can know what a game is and not know diddly **** about the characters
 
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there's also the fact that, almost 8 years on from its full out-of-beta release (and approaching an entire decade from its first alpha release), minecraft hasn't left the eshop's top 5 best sellers once

to say it's got sticking power on pretty much every platform it's been released on would be a gross understatement
Another fun fact I just discovered:

Even with Fortnite seemingly taking over the young casual gamer demographic, Minecraft still averages 91 million active users a month as of September 2018.

That's ****ing insane for a game that's been around since 2009.
 

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Hot take.

Midna and her realm over Urbosa and Skyloft…

Man Skyward is weird. Urbosa is the best in BOTW but she's dead so.... eh?
...ooor we could get Midna and Urbosa...

Heck, if we got that, I would be infinitely satisfied with Zelda representation forever, even if they reworked Ganondorf into a straight up Peach echo.
 

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All these "leaks" are sticking to Steve literally because vergeben said something last summer. Vergeben has a really good track record and that's the only thing he got wrong, so all these fake leakers are just putting steve in as a safe bet. It is clear to me that verge was either given wrong information or that minecraft content was cut entirely, because I don't believe he knew about DLC info that far back(besides the fact that he knew there would be DLC).
 

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hey, headsup!! (this might be US only not sure still worth checking imo)

Mario Kart 8, Splatoon 2, Octopath Traveler, ARMS and Hyrule Warriors are all $42 at Target and GameStop

Target has physical copies while GameStop has digital

Thought this might help anyone interested in these games
 
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Just reading the guide, and is there really a challenge that requires a battle with 8 human players? If so, sure, hammers are available, but what a jab at me...
no, there is a challenge that requires you to run a tourney with a human winner but I just used 16 CPUs and myself
 

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Another fun fact I just discovered:

Even with Fortnite seemingly taking over the young casual gamer demographic, Minecraft still averages 91 million active users a month as of September 2018.

That's ****ing insane for a game that's been around since 2009.
folks have a tendency to think Minecraft isn't relevant anymore, but it's simply not the case. just because Fortnite's in the spotlight right now doesn't mean kids only have the capacity to play one game - and Minecraft's emphasis on cooperative building gels more with the parents of younger kids anyway.
 
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