Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Buffalo Soldier]

There's still the DLC characters mind ya...

True, but at this point I doubt we see a second DLC character for a while. I think the next big reveal will be what Joker looks like in the game.

 

[osby]

I do not know why but Isabelle angers me alot. I don't know if its her fishing rod, or the fact that she's unique instead of Dark Samus or Dark Pit, or the fact that I find the "innocent shouldn't be hurt" posts on her really annoying.

or ive just spent too long playing quickplay and it's the middle of the night and im just getting cranky at everything

"innocent shouldn't be hurt"?

Bold of you to assume Isabelle can be hurt.

 

[Zinith]

True, but at this point I doubt we see a second DLC character for a while. I think the next big reveal will be what Joker looks like in the game.

Speculation can take any amount of time, just as long as we know it's coming...

 

[osby]

True, but at this point I doubt we see a second DLC character for a while. I think the next big reveal will be what Joker looks like in the game.

We got two DLC character reveals in quick succession. We can talk about them quite a while, considering we talked about freaking chairs for weeks.

 

[Idon]

I do not know why but Isabelle angers me alot. I don't know if its her fishing rod, or the fact that she's unique instead of Dark Samus or Dark Pit, or the fact that I find the "innocent shouldn't be hurt" posts on her really annoying.

or ive just spent too long playing quickplay and it's the middle of the night and im just getting cranky at everything

Dark Samus is disappointment incarnate.

Anyway, it's just the internet and how they like to "subvert expectations" by having innocent stuff be violent.
The joke's so tired, but I don't think you're going to stop seeing it ever, so get used to it. Same for Kirby.

Also, yeah, Isabelle is somehow all the most annoying parts about villager, and then some. Fishing pole and lloyd mine are a pain to get through.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Many of the player reactions I'm seeing to Isabelle after fighting her multiple times are eerily similar to how I felt about Cloud in Smash 4.

...Specifically, the rage more than a few people are displaying towards her.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

Guys, let me ask you all

Character you wanted to play the most pre-release
Character you've played the most
Character you're confident the most with so far
Character you picked up you never thought you would
Character you intended to play, but have dropped/put on hold
Veteran from a previous game you've used but aren't clicking with yet

Character you wanted to play the most pre-release
Character you've played the most
Character you're confident the most with so far
Character you picked up you never thought you would
Character you intended to play, but have dropped/put on hold
Veteran from a previous game that you've used but aren't clicking with yet

 

[Zinith]

Dark Samus is disappointment incarnate.

Anyway, it's just the internet and how they like to "subvert expectations" by having innocent stuff be violent.
The joke's so tired, but I don't think you're going to stop seeing it ever, so get used to it. Same for Kirby.

Also, yeah, Isabelle is somehow all the most annoying parts about villager, and then some. Fishing pole and lloyd mine are a pain to get through.

My boi seems to be the exception to that "subvert expectations" trope. I rarely ever see the internet make him out to be a bad*** despite having the ability to do so...

 

[Idon]

My boi seems to be the exception to that "subvert expectations" trope. I rarely ever see the internet make him out to be a bad*** despite having the ability to do so...

Too busy with that tax fraud meme, my friend.

 

[Impa4Smash]

My boi seems to be the exception to that "subvert expectations" trope. I rarely ever see the internet make him out to be a bad*** despite having the ability to do so...

Committing tax fraud and sticking it to the man could be considered badass

 

[Will]

Many of the player reactions I'm seeing to Isabelle after fighting her multiple times are eerily similar to how I felt about Cloud in Smash 4.

...Specifically, the rage more than a few people are displaying towards her.

Isabelle is the new Cloud
K. Rool is the new Bayonetta
Inkling is the new Link
Belmont is the new Little Mac

same premise different character

 

[Zinith]

Too busy with that tax fraud meme, my friend.

Gee, how riveting...

 

[KingofPhantoms]

As long as the meme doesn't get exhausted like it did with Villager in Smash 4, then by all means have your fun. A few "deadly/evil Isabelle" memes won't hurt.

Now that being said, as someone who legitimately hates the "Ron the Death Eater" trope, I really don't want to see her get that treatment too much. I'd much rather her be subjected to that trope through memes than through over the top, edgy horror fanfics, though.

___

On an unrelated note, I haven't been keeping up with speculation lately. What are some picks for the remaining four DLC characters people around here are feeling to be likely?

 

[Idon]

On an unrelated note, I haven't been keeping up with speculation lately. What are some picks for the remaining four DLC characters people around here are feeling to be likely?

literally...
everyone.

Except anything else Atlus.

 

[Zinith]

Committing tax fraud and sticking it to the man could be considered badass

Mostly it's the tax fraud stuff and pity over him because of the even more annoying "abusive Mario meme." Why not stuff that actually makes him cool?

 

[Impa4Smash]

Anyone else finding themselves playing heavier characters a lot in Ultimate because of how fast they are while also dealing serious damage?

I love K Rool and Ridley, but I’m also shocked at how much I’ve been playing Bowser and Ganondorf and Ike since I didn’t too much in previous games

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Isabelle is the new Cloud
K. Rool is the new Bayonetta
Inkling is the new Link
Belmont is the new Little Mac

same premise different character

Something tells me at least a few of those comparisons will fade over time.

The game's only been out for a week, after all.

literally...
everyone.

Except anything Atlus.

Including Spongebob? :V

 

[LetterO]

I think my problem with Isabelle is that she would've just done better as a VIllager echo but remove Fishing Rod/Lloyd Rocket. then make dark samus more unique

 

[Impa4Smash]

Mostly it's the tax fraud stuff and pity over him because of the even more annoying "abusive Mario meme." Why not stuff that actually makes him cool?

I’ve said it before, but they really need to make a sequel to Yoshi Safari.

Being the star of a 1st Person shooter = instant cool dude

 

[osby]

Anyone else finding themselves playing heavier characters a lot in Ultimate because of how fast they are while also dealing serious damage?

I love K Rool and Ridley, but I’m also shocked at how much I’ve been playing Bowser and Ganondorf and Ike since I didn’t too much in previous games

I don't like playing heavies much, so I'm mostly just complaining about them. Though is fun, I used him quiet a lot in World of Light before switching back to

I think my problem with Isabelle is that she would've just done better as a VIllager echo but remove Fishing Rod/Lloyd Rocket. then make dark samus more unique

I think your problem with Isabelle sounds like jealousy and "I'm bad at this match-up".

 

[Impa4Smash]

I don't like playing heavies much, so I'm mostly just complaining about them. Though is fun, I used him quiet a lot in World of Light before switching back to

Yeah heavies are insanely better in Ultimate than in previous games, to me anyway. Which could be annoying if you don’t play them lol

Also, the Puff is amazing in this game

 

[LetterO]

I think your problem with Isabelle sounds like jealousy and "I'm bad at this match-up".

I mean yeah I'm biased and would much prefer Dark Samus have a unique moveset.

 

[Noipoi]

My new favorite thing is too use Ivysaur's neutral special, follow my opponent and they descend, and use it again.

It's so fun.

 

[osby]

I mean yeah I'm biased and would much prefer Dark Samus have a unique moveset.

I think Metroid hardly needs four unique characters while Donkey Kong and Animal Crossing have less characters than it but hey, I'm biased, too.

 

[Wademan94]

I think Metroid hardly needs four unique characters while Donkey Kong and Animal Crossing have less characters than it but hey, I'm biased, too.

Ok I can see Dixie, but what other Animal Crossing character could make it as a fighter?

 

[Deleted member]

So, Fire Emblem heroes...Meh, it's a mobile game.

I think Metroid hardly needs four unique characters while Donkey Kong and Animal Crossing have less characters than it but hey, I'm biased, too.

Just give me Sylux, and we're good.

 

[DevaAshera]

On an unrelated note, I haven't been keeping up with speculation lately. What are some picks for the remaining four DLC characters people around here are feeling to be likely?

I have absolutely no evidence for these characters, they are just my personal guesses, and I don't put faith in leaks, so some of them are just kind of coincidental since they seem likely enough to me.
Sora from Kingdom Hearts
A Dragon Quest character
Heihachi or Lloyd
A Nintendo character (probably Edelgard, Dixie Kong, or a Pokémon for Next Generation)

 

[Noipoi]

Ok I can see Dixie, but what other Animal Crossing character could make it as a fighter?

MOTHER.
****ING.
SCOOT.

 

[osby]

Ok I can see Dixie, but what other Animal Crossing character could make it as a fighter?

Don't get me wrong, I think Isabelle and Villager are perfectly fine. I just don't get why some Metroid fans are salty about Animal Crossing having a character that essentially a semi-clone when they got two characters, one is fully unique.

 

[Wademan94]

MOTHER.
****ING.
SCOOT.

...seriously?

 

[Deleted member]

Don't get me wrong, I think Isabelle and Villager are perfectly fine. I just don't get why some Metroid fans are salty about Animal Crossing having a character that essentially a semi-clone when they got two characters, one is fully unique.

I'm not salty. My favorite series is practically cover in every way possible. I'm good. Sylux would be great, but I'd add only if he's the main villain of Prime 4.

 

[Noipoi]

...seriously?

blame Vinny.

 

[osby]

...seriously?

Do it.

I'm not salty. My favorite series is practically cover in every way possible. I'm good. Sylux would be great, but I'd add only if he's the main villain of Prime 4.

He wasn't even the most interesting hunter, no idea why they decided to focus on him. I hope he'll be good in Prime 4.

 

[TheYungLink]

It's weird that my first thought when seeing Dark Samus be an echo for Samus was "I can't wait to see how the modders will make her more true to herself now that she's finally in" but here we are.

 

[Noipoi]

I'm not salty. My favorite series is practically cover in every way possible. I'm good. Sylux would be great, but I'd add only if he's the main villain of Prime 4.

Metroid's representation isn't complete until Crocomire is a fighter.

 

[Deleted member]

You know, the more I spend time investing myself in Fire Emblem, the more I'm convinced that Ike is sole highlight of the series.

 

[Idon]

It's weird that my first thought when seeing Dark Samus be an echo for Samus was "I can't wait to see how the modders will make her more true to herself now that she's finally in" but here we are.

Said modders that will, of course, be banned by the ever vigilant Nintendo.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Ok I can see Dixie, but what other Animal Crossing character could make it as a fighter?

KK Slider. His attacks are all guitar related. His final smash is him smashing and breaking his guitar over someone’s head, The Who style

 

[Will]

You know, the more I spend time investing myself in Fire Emblem, the more I'm convinced that Ike is sole highlight of the series.

I mean let's be fair here Ike is one of the rare Lords who's a protagonist in more than one game.

 

[Impa4Smash]

You know, the more I spend time investing myself in Fire Emblem, the more I'm convinced that Ike is sole highlight of the series.

Ike is the best lord. There’s no drama or stupid moral bull**** where he spares all the named characters but wastes the no name grunts, he just fights for his friends.