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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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KarneraMythos

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Why did you decide to end a relatively reasonable post with a rick and morty image, while presumably knowing that the show’s reputation would mean nobody would take your post seriously?
Why do you care that I used a Rick and Morty image to end my post, unless you're so insecure about your likes and dislikes that you need to band with other mindless sheep and associate a show with a fandom that got into a hot mess over a year ago?

Abridged version:
>POPULAR THING BAD
>POST BAD

That's you my guy.
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Why do you care that I used a Rick and Morty image to end my post, unless you're so insecure about your likes and dislikes that you need to band with other mindless sheep and associate a show with a fandom that got into a hot mess over a year ago?

Abridged version:
>POPULAR THING BAD
>POST BAD
That's you my guy.
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Oh **** you said "mindless sheep" unironically this is bad
 

ClaTheBae

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I can't believe good old H Dub decided to **** everyone over one last time.

this is a joke please don't make this a big thing it's just a bit
I mean it is kind of a dumb inconvenience.
There's no reason people's jobs should cease or people's mail shouldn't get delivered just because a former president passed away. There is no correlation there at all.
 
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Luigi The President

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Here's something I was wondering about last night.

Just why did we know a Squenix rep would be in so early?
We're not really aware of any other potential DLC candidates beyond that Namco rumor. And even then, that came out just now.

Squenix rep, we've known about since like, August.

Why?
 
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Why do you care that I used a Rick and Morty image to end my post, unless you're so insecure about your likes and dislikes that you need to band with other mindless sheep and associate a show with a fandom that got into a hot mess over a year ago?

Abridged version:
>POPULAR THING BAD
>POST BAD

That's you my guy.
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I ain’t saying that’s the impression I had of your post. I watched rick and Morty. I liked it. I even said that your post made sense and was reasonable. What I was saying was that ending your post with a reaction image from the show would probably cause others to just dismiss what you had actually written and not consider it.
 
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Here's something I was wondering about last night.

Just why did we know a Squenix rep would be in so early?
We're not really aware of any other potential DLC candidates beyond that Namco rumor. And even then, that came out just now.

Squenix rep, we've known about since like, August.

Why?
Vergeben iirc said that talks were in progress a while ago alongside the Minecraft talks as well. Then later the DM's leaked. Might be wrong on this, memory isn't perfect
 
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Here's something I was wondering about last night.

Just why did we know a Squenix rep would be in so early?
We're not really aware of any other potential DLC candidates beyond that Namco rumor. And even then, that came out just now.

Squenix rep, we've known about since like, August.

Why?
Maybe it was planned for the base game but got pushed back due to time constraints?
 

Luigi The President

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Why do you care that I used a Rick and Morty image to end my post, unless you're so insecure about your likes and dislikes that you need to band with other mindless sheep and associate a show with a fandom that got into a hot mess over a year ago?

Abridged version:
>POPULAR THING BAD
>POST BAD

That's you my guy.
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Karnera snaps over a Rick and Morty gag
 

KarneraMythos

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Oh **** you said "mindless sheep" unironically this is bad
Hating something because of its fanbase or because of its popularity makes you a sheep by default, especially if you can't cite any worthwhile reason why to dislike it. This goes for anything, not Rick and Morty specifically :v
 

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Quick question. Can anyone confirm if the Star Fox Smash Taunt will be returning?

I know Palutena's Guidance is back, so it'd make sense for the Star Fox Comms to return as well. Though with the new voice cast, and visual upgrades to the series' content, they'd possibly record new ones, and I fear that they may have opted to give Star Fox the shaft again and just not bring them back.
 

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Vergeben iirc said that talks were in progress a while ago alongside the Minecraft talks as well. Then later the DM's leaked. Might be wrong on this, memory isn't perfect
Nah that was quite a bit after Squenix talk I think. Either way, he stated clearly "A Squenix rep is coming" quite early but with Minecraft it's always been "there's some talk of MC content"

Squenix is in a very weird situation
 

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Quick question. Can anyone confirm if the Star Fox Smash Taunt will be returning?

I know Palutena's Guidance is back, so it'd make sense for the Star Fox Comms to return as well. Though with the new voice cast, and visual upgrades to the series' content, they'd possibly record new ones, and I fear that they may have opted to give Star Fox the shaft again and just not bring them back.
Yes, they're back. They got datamined with Snake's Codecs, but I'm not sure if they're new, because I haven't seen them in play yet.
 
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Here's something I was wondering about last night.

Just why did we know a Squenix rep would be in so early?
We're not really aware of any other potential DLC candidates beyond that Namco rumor. And even then, that came out just now.

Squenix rep, we've known about since like, August.

Why?
Perhaps negotiations have been taking place for a while, while Bamco negotiations only started a a few months ago?
 

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Here's something I was wondering about last night.

Just why did we know a Squenix rep would be in so early?
We're not really aware of any other potential DLC candidates beyond that Namco rumor. And even then, that came out just now.

Squenix rep, we've known about since like, August.

Why?
Bc S-E usually takes months to complete the legal measures when dealing with new licensing opportunities.
It's very likely this happened alongside when they got Cloud back before E3.
 

DevaAshera

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You are correct regarding Ifrit, and I apologize. But the labelling of the series makes no sense. If he intended to consider someone outside of VII, he wouldn't have labelled the series in-game and on the site the way he did. He would have left the door open. Also, remember S-E usually takes a while to reach licensing agreements, so it's safe to assume that they might have chosen the character back before E3 when they got Cloud back. It also makes sense with the narrative that insiders have been hearing about a S-E rep back in August.
Sakurai likely didn't consider adding another Final Fantasy rep during Smash 4 or planning of Ultimate, or he doesn't want to hint at more Final Fantasy representation by changing the series to just Final Fantasy.

I'm simply saying that if something changes in the future, it would be easily patched to take the VII off.
 

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Why are there more Game and watches than Touhous?

...Oh wait.
If you've ever seen a video of a small dog with fireworks in its mouth running around sending sparkles of light all over the place, that's how I imagine a Touhou bullet hell would get translated to smash.
 

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What's this? I'm posting before the countdown image?? Preposterous!!!

I just wanted to make some dlc predictions before I get started on the final countdown. I made a jokey one with a Chocobo a few weeks ago...people didn't take too kindly too that...

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Gen 8 Pokemon
Ultimate is in a bit of a weird position. It's coming out right at the end of Gen 7, we're literally a few months away from Gen 8's reveal. I feel like this could be another Brawl situation where we get more than one Pokemon newcomer, this time a Gen 8 rep. I have no idea who it could be, but I think it'll happen.

Fire Emblem Character
Fire Emblem has gotten really big in the past few years, and with the coming release of Three Houses a new character wouldn't surprise me at all.
I put Edelgard here, but really it could be anyone.

Bandanna Dee or Poochy
One of these little guys. Poochy could possibly rep Crafted World while Bandanna Dee has the star power. Not to mention with Piranha Plant here the generic enemy argument is basically dead. Personally i'm rooting for Dee, he's suffered enough.

A Big Third Party
A huge third party character, like Cloud. My bets are on Steve, Crash, or Master Chief.

Square Enix Character
The mythical Square Rep. Who could it be? Beats me. I'm hoping for Geno, but any of these guys would be okay. Especially Slime, that'd be hilarious.
 

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I would not be surprised if we get a Minecraft stage but no character. There are six slots on the stage selection screen, but only five fighters pass characters. I imagine if we do manage to get Banjo-Kazooie, we will probably get a Minecraft stage as well.
 

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Bc S-E usually takes months to complete the legal measures when dealing with new licensing opportunities.
It's very likely this happened alongside when they got Cloud back before E3.
Why do we keep saying they got Cloud back before E3 again?

What's this? I'm posting before the countdown image?? Preposterous!!!

I just wanted to make some dlc predictions before I get started on the final countdown. I made a jokey one with a Chocobo a few weeks ago...people didn't take too kindly too that...

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Gen 8 Pokemon
Ultimate is in a bit of a weird position. It's coming out right at the end of Gen 7, we're literally a few months away from Gen 8's reveal. I feel like this could be another Brawl situation where we get more than one Pokemon newcomer, this time a Gen 8 rep. I have no idea who it could be, but I think it'll happen.

Fire Emblem Character
Fire Emblem has gotten really big in the past few years, and with the coming release of Three Houses a new character wouldn't surprise me at all.
I put Edelgard here, but really it could be anyone.

Bandanna Dee or Poochy
One of these little guys. Poochy could possibly rep Crafted World while Bandanna Dee has the star power. Not to mention with Piranha Plant here the generic enemy argument is basically dead. Personally i'm rooting for Dee, he's suffered enough.

A Big Third Party
A huge third party character, like Cloud. My bets are on Steve, Crash, or Master Chief.

Square Enix Character
The mythical Square Rep. Who could it be? Beats me. I'm hoping for Geno, but any of these guys would be okay. Especially Slime, that'd be hilarious.
BABY COME BACK
 
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ReeseBalaski

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Idk. I just can't see how 64's gameplay is better than Brawl's when it's so primitive. No side specials or dodges, no up/down throws, pummels. The hitstun and wonky hitboxes are both a blessing and a curse in that they're fun to play with but also pretty unreasonable.

64 is honestly such an enigma with how mechanically old it is compared to every Smash game after it. Brawl got some **** wrong in the gameplay department, but calling it the worst when 64 is so limited is kinda... meh.
 

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I mean it is kind of a dumb inconvenience.
There's no reason people's jobs should cease or people's mail shouldn't get delivered just because a former president passed away. There is no correlation there at all.
Oh no trust me I agree. There is so much wrong with this whole situation that I just don't want to get into on a Smash Bros thread. It's silly at best and damaging at worst. And like, I think it's fair to be annoyed at Ultimate shipping being delayed because of this. It's dumb. I just also don't feel like getting into a deep discussion over something tongue-in-cheek. I already have old people yelling at me over the phone at my job, I don't need everyone else yelling at me over the internet, haha.
 

MajoraMan28

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Why do we keep saying they got Cloud back before E3 again?


BABY COME BACK
Uhhhh.... because Cloud was in the E3 trailer? Hahahaha
I never said it was immediately before though. Just that the S-E approach must have happened before E3
Everytime a new game is made they need to reestablish the licensing the contracts, hence why they did the same process they usually do with Sonic and co. as they did with Cloud.
 

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Guys, anyone wanna get a Smashboards Online tourney set up? We did it for Sm4sh and it was a lot of fun! "Speculation Smashers"!!
 

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Uhhhh.... because Cloud was in the E3 trailer? Hahahaha
I never said it was immediately before though. Just that the S-E approach must have happened before E3
Everytime a new game is made they need to reestablish the licensing the contracts, hence why they did the same process they usually do with Sonic and co. as they did with Cloud.
Oh...sorry, thought you were implying "Cloud was the last one gotten" like people keep doing that.
 

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I still won't be able to play the game when it comes out, and I'm upset. Not even sure what to do until I get my chance.

Guys, anyone wanna get a Smashboards Online tourney set up? We did it for Sm4sh and it was a lot of fun! "Speculation Smashers"!!
Well, I had plans for that, actually...
 
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Nah that was quite a bit after Squenix talk I think. Either way, he stated clearly "A Squenix rep is coming" quite early but with Minecraft it's always been "there's some talk of MC content"

Squenix is in a very weird situation
Thanks for the correction!
Hmm, perhaps it's because a Squenix character was all set and ready but they wanted it as DLC because they would get the most money out of it that way? While MS just waited until after the game had gone gold to begin talks of MC content instead of confirming a character asap. IDK there are so many variables here and we really can't pinpoint wth is going on lol
 

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I still won't be able to play the game when it comes out, and I'm upset. Not even sure what to do until I get my chance.
I have to take a trip on the 8th until the 9th.
I get one day of Smash before I have to go 24 hours without it again. What a pain...
 

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Thanks for the correction!
Hmm, perhaps it's because a Squenix character was all set and ready but they wanted it as DLC because they would get the most money out of it that way? While MS just waited until after the game had gone gold to begin talks of MC content instead of confirming a character asap. IDK there are so many variables here and we really can't pinpoint wth is going on lol
If this were the case, it being Geno makes sense as it lines up with the missing character in the code (he's classified as a Mario character not a third party)
I mean...it ain't Geno, but.
 
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So, funny story:



Walmart ****ed up my order, big time.


So I either have two copies of the game coming, one on December 7th and the other on December 12th, or in an alternate timeline I got the game the day after the Direct according to their tracking services.


Meh, didn't have a Switch anyway, I can wait a couple more days.
 
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Some people suggested that Cloud was negotiated for both games when he was added. I don’t know much agreements like this, but Cloud would have to been negotiated sometime around the beginning of 2015 due to the development timeframe. If we’re to believe Sakurai when he said he only made a project plan for ultimate in December, then surely the agreements with Square would have had to only be for smash 4, meaning Cloud would have to be negotiated again for ultimate. Correct me if I’m wrong thiugh.
 

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I could see, if we get an FE character (which I highly, highly doubt), us getting Anna. Heroes is huge, she's the starting unit, she's an iconic series character, and also I'm horribly biased because I love her.

However, she is already a shopkeeper in WoL, which I'm more than content with.

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AHHHHHHHHHH
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 

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Thanks for the correction!
Hmm, perhaps it's because a Squenix character was all set and ready but they wanted it as DLC because they would get the most money out of it that way? While MS just waited until after the game had gone gold to begin talks of MC content instead of confirming a character asap. IDK there are so many variables here and we really can't pinpoint wth is going on lol
Hopefully tomorrow will help us figure out what in the world is going on w/ this DLC. That should at least gives us some semblance of what to expect.
 
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