Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[ThreeT]

Elma and Bandana Dee being a spirit isn't surprising. All major characters from Nintendo games will be spirits. This either means that spirits don't matter for characters or that only new Nintendo Reps that appeared after Smash Ultimate development can be playable.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Who...? I'm sorry...

Who's that?

Merric, a mage from the original FE game. He's buddies with Marth and used to wear this ridiculous hat.

 

[Pyra]

What's your over-under on the total number of spirits?

I'm gonna go over the top and say 2000-5000 Spirits.
High rollin', bois

 

[Deleted member]

Merric, a mage from the original FE game. He's buddies with Marth and used to wear this ridiculous hat.

Oh, okay. FE isn't a series I'm familiar with...

 

[PlasmaDam]

But on the brightside i get to be smug to Elma fans who Hates Rex and didn't want him in Smashulitmate

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

But on the brightside i get to be smug to Elma fans who Hates Rex and didn't want him in Smashulitmate

Okay, let's not start any hate here...

 

[DutchPichu]

Are there any new bosses confirmed?

I think it’s nice to hear that the Miis are also part of the main modes now.

 

[PlasmaDam]

But damn No new Xenoblade rep oof

 

[Noipoi]

Merric, a mage from the original FE game. He's buddies with Marth and used to wear this ridiculous hat.

Merrick, huh? Wonder if Bakura will be a spirit...

What's your over-under on the total number of spirits?

I'm gonna go over the top and say 2000-5000 Spirits.
High rollin', bois

2,500-6000.
That's my guess.

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, let's not start any hate here...

Agreed.
Unless you want to hate on me I'm used to it

 

[osby]

Okay, let's not start any hate here...

Hello, you must be new to Smashboards!

 

[LetterO]

But on the brightside i get to be smug to Elma fans who Hates Rex and didn't want him in Smashulitmate

No you don’t and I very much hope you don’t.

 

[Deleted member]

Are there any new bosses confirmed?

I think it’s nice to hear that the Miis are also part of the main modes now.

The Miis are real characters this time, let's go!

 

[Pyra]

i get to be smug

usually saying this revokes anyone's ability to be smug

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I'm thinking will get Rayquaza, actually.

Multiple character have the same boss wolf and rob get the same one

And the reason for my guess is meet So theme will easily revolve being the "ultimate pokemon" and each match will be a pokemon

The last Pokemon being rayquaza

 

[Cosmic77]

Remember, guys. It's literally impossible for Sakurai to work around a Spirit. If you see your favorite character as a Spirit, it's best to give up all hope and wait until Smash 6. Your dreams are dead, and you have no reason to think otherwise.


Seriously, relax. I can appreciate people trying to temper their expectations, but the level of pessimism I'm seeing is a little early, don't you think? We haven't even seen the first DLC character yet.

 

[Pyra]

Merrick, huh? Wonder if Bakura will be a spirit...


2,500-6000.
That's my guess.

Yeah, I'm definitely thinking upper in that range.

Which is another reason why they can't be disconfirmations, because that would be a good way to either give away their DLC plans or back themselves into a corner.

(Ignoring the fact that spirits of playable characters exist)

 

[Deleted member]

Multiple character have the same boss wolf and rob get the same one

And the reason for my guess is meet So theme will easily revolve being the "ultimate pokemon" and each match will be a pokemon

The last Pokemon being rayquaza

The Pokemon boss should be Dennis with his level 54 Hydreigon.

 

[PlasmaDam]

But seriously Rip Elma fans they got screwed hard imagine if you had a chance that your chracther was gonna be in smash ulitmate only for ot ro be destroyed just near the finish line Oof

 

[Noipoi]

Agreed.
Unless you want to hate on me I'm used to it

Spoiler

I don't hate you :3

 

[LetterO]

Willing to wager mewtwos boss is gonna be rayquaza

I'm thinking will get Rayquaza, actually.

It’ll be a damn crime if Fox and Diddy don’t end on Rayquaza.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

I don't hate you :3

Aww, thanks!

Remember, guys. It's literally impossible for Sakurai to work around a Spirit. If you see your favorite character as a Spirit, it's best to give up all hope and wait until Smash 6. Your dreams are dead, and you have no reason to think otherwise.


Seriously, relax. I can appreciate people trying to reserve their expectations, but the level of pessimism I'm seeing is a little early, don't you think? We haven't even seen the first DLC character yet.

Ooof. That was blunt. Maybe don't say that?

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

There are over a thousand spirits. Of course every conceivable first-party character is going to be a spirit, when we literally have Cupid from Sennen Kazoku and Noise from Kiki Trick. If Elma and Bandana Dee DIDN’T have spirits, it would be blatantly suspicious.

This is why I don’t really buy Hitagi’s “spirits are deconfirmed” talk, there’s no way she could know that for 100% certain.

 

[Raxxel]

Surprisingly enough, being smug towards people when they're down is only going to make them hate you, and make you look like a smaller person.

 

[Noipoi]

Ooof. That was blunt. Maybe don't say that?

I think that was sarcasm.

 

[Pyra]

Agreed.
Unless you want to hate on me I'm used to it

I don't think anyone hates you. You're a decent person who doesn't really do anything ill-willed towards anyone else. Being moderately irritating isn't a qualifier for hate because if that was the case everyone in this thread would be hated by everyone else tbh

 

[Deleted member]

I think that was sarcasm.

Oh.

 

[AreJay25]

I'm just waiting for someone to find a Piranha Plant Spirit. That alone would kill the theory of Spirits being disconfirmations.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Agreed.
Unless you want to hate on me I'm used to it

I've grown fond of you to be honest...

Hello, you must be new to Smashboards!

To be fair, I've only been here for like 2 months...

 

[PlasmaDam]

I just saying that spirit is like a participation Trophy they are in the game but not as a fighter Except maybe for Those chracthers that got in as a fighter and have a spirit

 

[ZephyrZ]

The Pokemon boss should be Dennis with his level 54 Hydreigon.

Only if we get Lance's level 50 Dragonite as a pokeball 'mon.

 

[Gyrom8]

Are there any new bosses confirmed?

I think it’s nice to hear that the Miis are also part of the main modes now.

The Miis are great and so are their costumes (apart from that uncanny valley Splatoon 2 set). Also I think they're a lot better consolation prize than an assist trophy as you have a 1/59 chance of a specific assist appearing: and that's if you want to play with items on in the first place. Hopefully looking forward to seeing Miis online and in competitive play.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm just waiting for someone to find a Piranha Plant Spirit. That alone would kill the theory of Spirits being disconfirmations.

There's like a 99.99% chance of a Piranha Plant Spirit imo
It's obvious after all

 

[ThreeT]

But damn No new Xenoblade rep oof

I STILL HAVE HOPE

Unlikely yeah, but I they were too new to be turned into spirits and if Sakurai wanted to added a new xenoblade rep I see why not.

 

[Nekoo]

I'm just waiting for someone to find a Piranha Plant Spirit. That alone would kill the theory of Spirits being disconfirmations.

You will get one with the DLC

 

[GoeGoe]

Ah it seems we've both been busy lately. And sorry you feel that way buddy, I know the discussion mill has been a bit slow since we don't have much to speculate until the 1st DLC arrives. Agree Goemon does deserve the support, I really hope he will get his chance in the next Smash Bros. I decided to support FF15 one of my favorite games despite my sadness its coming to an end and I may never know what the Omen trailer meant. I had hoped the DLC would tie the holes in the story together, but at least Im getting episode Ardyn.

I think Nintendo could possibly push for a Dragalia Lost character as that is the mobile game that has been around longer. I still see them pushing for a FE Three Houses rep, but we will see. As for any other characters maybe Banda Dee due to popularity, other than that I don't see any characters being pushed. I really doubt we will get a Arms rep now that Spring Man is an assist. As for Xeno unless its Elma, I don't see us getting anymore characters from Xenoblade. As for who I expect Nintendo to put in for the DLC that would be Edelgard and maybe Bandana Dee (not really sure on the second).

I don't see Nintendo adding the Dhovakin to Smash Bros, as interesting as he would be. The music of Skyrim and Elder Scrolls as beautiful as it is, does not fit with Smash Bros. Neither does Dhovakin fit with Smash Bros, also Bethesda might not want to push Dhovakin. As they are making a new Elder Scrolls, so if Bethesda got a rep maybe Vault Boy (I don't see Doom guy working at all). If Im wrong about this I'd love to see how they would blend the amazing orchestral music of Elder Scrolls, with the less seriousness of Smash Bros. If you have seen any of Riftley's Youtube content he has proven Elder Scrolls music can be mixed in with other types of music, so its possible.

I don't know if a Square Enix rep will get 5 pieces of music as amazing as that is. Id say for Square rep 2-3 songs, if its DQ character I agree only 1 song due to Sugiyama's influence in that decision. For all of the other characters that are third party I could see 4-5 pieces of music. Anything more, then those companies would be really generous. As for Nintendo characters I could see them getting 4-6 pieces of music with their inclusion.

Heres a blend from Riftley of Skyrim's theme being blended with Assassin's Creed Black Flag.

Ohh I hope they don't release the first DLC info alone, I want to know all 5 at once. They have no excuse hiding those after release since they're all already decided. They did that to MK8, so why not Smash. Plus, it'll a bad sales move if they're looking to sell that Fighter's Pass.
FF15: Instead of supporting, make the call with fans for a closing DLC. It's better than waiting for another round. Just show Square that you with the fans demand a closure. No publisher would refuse easy money.

I think Nintendo has nothing to push tbh. Anything beyond what we have 1st party is just extra fat.

You know I think you want epic music from publishers more than their IPs X) Well, here's what I would do, just turn off the music, keep the fx on, then play your favorite music while playing the game. It's that simple. You don't have to find excuses for Vault Boy, Doom guy.. or any unlikely challenger.

I'm joking about the 1 music. I don't think any DLC will go below 5. But I'm guesing 8 would be the average (or what fills a music page), if not higher.

Edit: Oops! missed what I wanted to say here.
That's not a bad piece, celtic flavored too
Since we missed the opportunity of Prince of Sable being playable, I'd be really beyond thrilled if Oliver or Evan joined the game, as Namco-Bandai/Level-5 rep.. I know this is not happening but I'll say, Ni no Kuni has one of the most beautiful music in gaming. (Done by none other than Joe Hisaishi). So definitely the tracks surpasses DQ's by eons (or to me personally, any RPG for that matter). So beautiful it'll give you goosebumps. Here's NNK's intro:

 

[Pyra]

I just saying that spirit is like a participation Trophy they are in the game but not as a fighter Except maybe for Those chracthers that got in as a fighter and have a spirit

... "This is false except for when it's true"

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

The Pokemon boss should be Dennis with his level 54 Hydreigon.

The only acceptable Pokemon boss is Youngster Joey and his top percentage Ratatta

 

[Jexulus]

So, I'm not super interested in trying to find this info 100+ pages back, but do we have confirmation that Miis are no longer affected by the height/weight sliders?

 

[Noipoi]

To be fair, I've only been here for like 2 months...

It feels like you've been here forever!

Only if we get Lance's level 50 Dragonite as a pokeball 'mon.

Spoiler: Let's Go spoiler

Lance in Let's Go is stupid.
"I have a team of Dragons!"
Has only one Dragon.