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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Pakky

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If Bowser wanted he could probably pull off some wicked schemes, but he's too in love with Peach too bother.

K Rool's mad genius doesn't have time for princesses, he's got some Kongs to take out.
There is only Kongs

Man DKCR3 gonna be dank!
 
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>:( BUT TOTS HES A FREAKING SIDE CHARACTER!!! AND B&K ISN'T POPUALR ANYMORE AND GS IS A DEAD FRANCHISE!!!
Sorry, just, that stuff kinda gets me in relation to Smash.
It's funny still to this day that people can say this knowing that before info about Castlevania content coming to Smash Ultimate came out, the franchise was considered dormant and/or dead.

Look at how much of a rejuvenation the series got after Smash now. Much needed, cause the series is kickass. Hell, I guarantee you had Greninja not appeared in Smash For, he wouldn't be in Detective Pikachu. That's how much power Smash has.

Words like "irrelevant" and "not popular" have been BTFO'd so many times this cycle yet people STILL use them to back their arguments up.
 

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Like Gallem has all the character except Kirby, the spirits of everything and all bosses in control.

That's why super evil villains want to work with the good guys here. Gallem isn't about domination or power. It's about assimilation.
 

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What he's done is pretty darn low though. Purposely stealing bananas so the Kongs could starve. Pretty evil if you ask me.

Once that failed he decided to kidnap his nemesis, something that took Bowser 20 years to decide to do!
Ok, but if Galeem wins then K. Rool has no bananas to steal.

It makes sense why he'd work with everyone.
 

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Chances are Bowser Jr. would had been among the newcomers in Ultimate. He probably doesn't require as much work as supposedly the Chorus Kids.
Probably. But going with the history that characters get cut from previous iterations never made into next iteration in term of being developed.

This reminds of the fact that this is basically the place where Kirby crashes in the World of Light trailer.

My new fan theory is that in Smash For, the characters were looking for new recruits to help them against the menace that is Galleem.
That's true but I do want to know why Sakurai really like to use Cliff as their setting. If there are any special connotation with the cliff setting?
 

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It's funny still to this day that people can say this knowing that before info about Castlevania content coming to Smash Ultimate came out, the franchise was considered dormant and/or dead.

Look at how much of a rejuvenation the series got after Smash now. Much needed, cause the series is kickass. Hell, I guarantee you had Greninja not appeared in Smash For, he wouldn't be in Detective Pikachu. That's how much power Smash has.

Words like "irrelevant" and "not popular" have been BTFO'd so many times this cycle yet people STILL use them to back their arguments up.
Aw hell yeah, Incineroar's here to stay!
 

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Like Gallem has all the character except Kirby, the spirits of everything and all bosses in control.

That's why super evil villains want to work with the good guys here. Gallem isn't about domination or power. It's about assimilation.
So basically, Galleem doesnt need allies because any living creature out there is a potential "ally".

Well, who says the power of friendship cannot be twisted and used for really disgusting purposes.
 
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I like how we can all just now call characters like Banjo, Geno, and Isaac "irrelevant" still after Richter's reveal, Isaac becoming an AT again and having an actual voice actor and when Piranha Plant got announced.

I'm pretty sure nobody would be saying this had he not been announced as a bonus fighter.
But how else do I put down characters that aren't mine?

Are you telling me that all these requests are viable and that people can support who they like!? Madness!
 
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Aw hell yeah, Incineroar's here to stay!
Normally I wouldn't be so gung-ho about that, but let's be honest here.

I think we all we caught off guard when Greninja, of ALL THE POKEMON YOU COULD SHOW, during that trailer got two little peeps. You can't deny that Smash had SOME part in that.

I guarantee you that Incineroar will be used in some way shape or form outside of the games, most likely even a big role in a Pokemon movie.
 

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So basically, Galleem doesnt need allies because any living creature out there is a potential "ally".

Well, who says the power of friendship cannot be twisted and used for really disgusting purposes.
But Galeem does have allies. All those Master Hands yo.
 

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Eh, some words have seemingly lost their meaning the way they’re used in Smash speculation.

“This fictional character deserves to be in Smash”... that’s quite the LOL from me. This is almost as bad as “rep”. Clearly, the characters created their own games, and weren’t created by hard working developers that created every single aspect of their being.

“Irrelevant”- not sure how a character/series can be irrelevant if we’re talking about them right now.

There are plenty of characters that could be “relevant” that, ironically, aren’t in Smash. It’s almost as if being “relevant” doesn’t make you any more likely unless you’re a Pokémon.

Looking at you Bandanna Waddle Dee, Elma, and Rex!

Still finding it interesting that, even after Piranha Plant being said to be added because everybody recognizes it, and the gameplay potential it has, very few people think, “Hey this character would be good because of their gameplay potential”.
 

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Normally I wouldn't be so gung-ho about that, but let's be honest here.

I think we all we caught off guard when Greninja, of ALL THE POKEMON YOU COULD SHOW, during that trailer got two little peeps. You can't deny that Smash had SOME part in that.

I guarantee you that Incineroar will be used in some way shape or form outside of the games, most likely even a big role in a Pokemon movie.
To be fair, Greninja is among the most popular Pokemon in Japan
 
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I guarantee you Piranha Plant was picked because Sakurai wanted to do something silly.

But you cannot sit here and tell me that thing didn't have moveset potential because he clearly did. You can see it in his trailer.
 

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I find CJ (GTA) to be an interesting character in he was in Smash Bros. just for potentially having unique mechanics that are based on source material (Y'know with the loot from downed opponents, using items is a more depth way than other fighters, etc).
 
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I guarantee you Piranha Plant was picked because Sakurai wanted to do something silly.

But you cannot sit here and tell me that thing didn't have moveset potential because he clearly did. You can see it in his trailer.
Which is why it's ****ing disgusting that COOKING MAMA ISN'T IN SMASH STILL.

SAKURAI. COME. ON.
 

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...that the irrelevancy argument for Geno/Banjo/Isaac is stupid???
I'm still confused. I was talking with a guy who thought Piranha plant wasn't deserving, and I asked him if he thinks he's any less "deserving" than characters like Isaac, Banjo, and Geno.

No character or franchise deserves anything that isn't already in smash. However, if I'm gonna humor him and we're gonna go down that street, Piranha Plant is a hell of alot more deserving than quote unquote "irrelevant" characters like Geno, Banjo, and Isaac.
 
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I guarantee you Piranha Plant was picked because Sakurai wanted to do something silly.

But you cannot sit here and tell me that thing didn't have moveset potential because he clearly did. You can see it in his trailer.
Honestly, any character could be in Smash if you're creative enough.

I am 100% convinced Sakurai could make a Goomba amazing if he wanted to.
 

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Probably. But going with the history that characters get cut from previous iterations never made into next iteration in term of being developed.



That's true but I do want to know why Sakurai really like to use Cliff as their setting. If there are any special connotation with the cliff setting?
Well, if we follow what little lore he has given us, then I guess the key to returning to "reality" is right there. Maybe that is the door to reality.
 

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Amalgamated minions are pretty good, Pokemon are a little limiting as there aren't a multitude of variants of a single one. Well other than maybe Pikachu?

Cuz like okay :ultincineroar::ultlucario::ultmewtwo::ultgreninja:(sorta) are all the same across the board at the moment.

Whereas :ultpiranha: has like a multitude of breeds with different abilities and such.
 
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I'm still confused. I was talking with a guy who thought Piranha plant wasn't deserving, and I asked him if he thinks he's any less "deserving" than characters like Isaac, Banjo, and Geno.

No character or franchise deserves anything that isn't already in smash. However, if I'm gonna humor him and we're gonna go down that street, Piranha Plant is a hell of alot more deserving than quote unquote "irrelevant" characters like Geno, Banjo, and Isaac.
No, you straight-up called Geno/Isaac/Banjo irrelevant.

I hope you don't consider irrelevant characters like Isaac, Banjo, and Geno as being more deserving than an iconic enemy like Piranha plant. Now a new Zelda character I can get behind.
THAT was my qualm with this. And to be fair some characters do deserve a spot by sheer fan demand. Will they get it? No, but I can see why they would /deserve/ it.

You didn't quote unquote anything. You just straight up called that trio irrelevant.
 

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Not gonna lie, I find Hammer Bro to be my favorite Mario enemy due to the fact that he has a armored strapped helment, and has a weapon on his hands. It's why I main him in Mario Party 8, Mario Sluggers (With all of the bros in my team), Strikers, and Mario Party 10 (If I had one). I mean just look at him, his voice, his beak, that heavy ass shell that looks kind of battle ready. It's great.
 
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Not gonna lie, I find Hammer Bro to be my favorite Mario enemy due to the fact that he has a armored strapped helment, and has a weapon on his hands. It's why I main him in Mario Party 8, Mario Sluggers (With all of the bros in my team), Strikers, and Mario Party 10 (If I had one). I mean just look at him, his voice, his beak, that heavy *** shell that looks kind of battle ready. It's great.
So, when are you gonna tell him how you feel?~
 
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No, you straight-up called Geno/Isaac/Banjo irrelevant.


THAT was my qualm with this. And to be fair some characters do deserve a spot by sheer fan demand. Will they get it? No, but I can see why they would /deserve/ it.

You didn't quote unquote anything. You just straight up called that trio irrelevant.
They are irrelevant based on my definition. I don't think the average gamer would know who they are.

I put the quotes there because it's a subjective term in this context.
 
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