Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

“Sonic’s alts are all a shade of blue”

I dunno about y’all but this doesn’t look like a shade of blue to me.

Spoiler

It’s black as the ace of spades!

Oboi he's got a single alt costume that isn't trash. It only took 3 games.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

You realize most of Simon's moveset comes from Richter, right?

Some of his moveset does, and I literally couldn't care less. I don't like Richter's design as much as Simon's, and Simon's in more games of the series, as well as the original protagonist.

 

[Will]

Some of his moveset does, and I literally couldn't care less. I don't like Richter's design as much as Simon's, and Simon's in more games of the series, as well as the original protagonist.

*cries in trevor belmont*
*cries in christopher belmont*

Oboi he's got a single alt costume that isn't trash. It only took 3 games.

With those ****ty wristbands it still ain't good enough

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Ridley is a psychopath and Dark Samus is some ancient being of infection, but both like living and being in control of their actions.

Someone taking over their mind is an insult to them. Real easy to see why they'd team up.

A mix of the desire to survive and personal pride.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

Off topic but...

Gametheory post an interesting Ultimate video discussing and theorizing the demographic of who will be likely be chosen based on gender, culture, countries, etc.

The demographic survey is voted by 500,000 people from different demographics!

Which character is favored by what demographic?

>Gametheory

Welp, I'm out.

Alright, let's try something different. It's Smash 64, and Sakurai has announced that you get three characters as DLC (go with it). Which three characters would fit Smash 64 the best and be the most interesting choices?

 

[beans]

Also with all the talk about Marvel here, just gonna drop that looking from the outside, Hawkeye is the one with biggest pair in there.
Dude isnt on a high-tech suit of armor, doesnt has radiation super powers, isnt a god, isnt a mutant or inhuman (whatever they call them those days), and isnt even on the super-soldier juice (Cap would still a patriotic little guy, but still a little guy).
What does he bring to the table: A piece of metal with some string and pointy sticks.

 

[ErenJager]

Also with all the talk about Marvel here, just gonna drop that looking from the outside, Hawkeye is the one with biggest pair in there.
Dude isnt on a high-tech suit of armor, doesnt has radiation super powers, isnt a god, isnt a mutant or inhuman (whatever they call them those days), and isnt even on the super-soldier juice (Cap would still a patriotic little guy, but still a little guy).
What does he bring to the table: A piece of metal with some string and pointy sticks.

Black Window has guns and nick fury has a pager.

 

[beans]

Black Window has guns and nick fury has a pager.

Guns beat pointy sticks.
Nick Fury is Nick Fury.
Hawkeye is the one with the disadvantage.
Or must I say: Handicap
THANOSDAB

 

[ErenJager]

Guns beat pointy sticks.
Nick Fury is Nick Fury.
Hawkeye is the one with the disadvantage.
Or must I say: Handicap
THANOSDAB

Pointy sticks pierce ballistics proof vests tho...

 

[doomedtacox]

Since I've never done this before I suppose I'll go ahead and rank how hyped I am for all the new characters.

1. King K. Rool - He's finally here (performing for you)! But seriously, I've been campaigning for this guy since Brawl. I've always felt that he'd fit perfectly in the world of Smash, and our patience has finally been rewarded. Honestly, it's still hard to believe he's here. And he looks just like I'd always wanted - the Blunderbuss, crown toss, and helicopter pack. He's perfectly crafted.
2. Inkling - I love the world and characters of Splatoon, and with their recent surge in popularity, there was no doubt they'd show up - but honestly, even though I expected them, they're translated directly from Splatoon, and that makes me excited.
3. Simon - Castlevania had a big impact on classic gaming, and the character is once again translated beautifully from their home series. His reach has got me excited and it makes me ready to fight once again.
4. Ridley - I'm still in the camp of "he's too big" and that they had to sacrifice a bit of the character to make it work, but damn, does he look menacing. He clashes hard with most of the cast - and honestly, it fits the sadistic villain he is fantastically. He deserves the slot.
5. Incineroar - I may have preferred Decidueye, but the really cool wrestling motif makes me excited for him.
6. Isabelle - I still don't want her in the game, but that's only because she's too cute to hurt. That said, I like her alternate take on Villager's moveset. Especially with the fishing rod, that always felt missing on Villager.
7. Daisy - I like Daisy's spunky personality, even if I'm not the biggest fan of Peach's playstyle.
8. Ken - I like Ryu in Smash, and it's cool that they gave Ken some of his own moves instead of making him a direct copy.
9. Richter - I wish Richter would have gotten the same treatment Ken did, but I like what I've seen of Simon's moveset, so I'm sure I'll be fine with Richter too.
10. Dark Samus - I'm not a big fan of Samus' playstyle, so... eh.
11. Chrom - I really don't think he adds much that Roy and Lucina didn't already do, and I've already explained my problems with so many Fire Emblem characters.
12. Seriously, screw this. There are so many characters who really deserve the slot more than a generic enemy that in his own series doesn't do anything but chomp.

I hope you don't consider irrelevant characters like Isaac, Banjo, and Geno as being more deserving than an iconic enemy like Piranha plant. Now a new Zelda character I can get behind.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

You could justify their assistance as short-term help for the sake of their own selfish goals.
Ganondorf can't rule a kingdom of statues, Ridley can't terrorize a dead galaxy, and Dark Samus is just looking for more stuff to infect.

You can defintely justify the villians joinging for the sake of being evil another day, but I don't think we can rule it out completely.

I mean we already know characters like Dracula have joined Gallem's side. So it's possibly Gannon and Ridley did too. Personally I'd rather that, it would make facing then a bigger deal, but I'm not expecting it.

 

[Luigi The President]

I get home to Marvel talk

Slow day eh boys

I hope you don't consider irrelevant characters like Isaac, Banjo, and Geno as being more deserving than an iconic enemy like Piranha plant. Now a new Zelda character I can get behind.

You cannot be ****ing serious lol
I plan to main Piranha Plant but are you deaf to one of the biggest messages of this game?
Notice how almost every pick for this game has been fan requested to a decently high extent. You're gonna act like "irrelevancy" rules out Isaac, Banjo, and Geno, 3 of the most requested Smash characters EVER?
This is what I was talking about when I say even some PP fans have been bus-ing numerous other characters for no reason.

 

[Zinith]

Um...

Can't they just be evil villains without having to compare HOW evil they are to each other?

I need some tips from Zinith

Though the egg laying is gonna be tough

Practice on some drifters. I'm sure you'll be fine

 

[KingofKoopas]

I get home to Marvel talk

Slow day eh boys.

Seems to be that way whenever we go more than 11 minutes without nintendo telling us anything. Or without any leaks and since the latest news on that is Depressing (RIP Katalina) why talk on it more.

 

[Luigi The President]

Seems to be that way whenever we go more than 11 minutes without nintendo telling us anything. Or without any leaks and since the latest news on that is Depressing (RIP Katalina) why talk on it more.

Never thought I'd be sad ****in KATALINA isn't in

 

[IntelliHeath1]

Bowser Jr. almost got cut from Smash 4 due to the reasons. Imagine the timeline that Bowser Jr didn't even make in the game. I think it would blows if we lose Bowser Jr, like we did with Rhythm Heaven rep. Here's 22 days countdown! #SmashBros #SmashBrosUltimate pic.twitter.com/FLqvX1vivT

— IntelliHeath (@IntelliHeath) November 15, 2018

 

[KingofKoopas]

Never thought I'd be sad ****in KATALINA isn't in

our beloved Knight Waifu has been exiled from Smash but not from our hearts!

 

[Ring-a-Sheep]

our beloved Knight Waifu has been exiled from Smash but not from our hearts!

Ive heard the name, but whomst the **** is Katalina

 

[Noipoi]

Bowser Jr. almost got cut from Smash 4 due to the reasons. Imagine the timeline that Bowser Jr didn't even make in the game. I think it would blows if we lose Bowser Jr, like we did with Rhythm Heaven rep. Here's 22 days countdown! #SmashBros #SmashBrosUltimate pic.twitter.com/FLqvX1vivT

— IntelliHeath (@IntelliHeath) November 15, 2018

The clock's ticking, lads.
It's almost time.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Bowser Jr. almost got cut from Smash 4 due to the reasons. Imagine the timeline that Bowser Jr didn't even make in the game. I think it would blows if we lose Bowser Jr, like we did with Rhythm Heaven rep. Here's 22 days countdown! #SmashBros #SmashBrosUltimate pic.twitter.com/FLqvX1vivT

— IntelliHeath (@IntelliHeath) November 15, 2018

Chances are Bowser Jr. would had been among the newcomers in Ultimate. He probably doesn't require as much work as supposedly the Chorus Kids.

 

[Pakky]

You can defintely justify the villians joinging for the sake of being evil another day, but I don't think we can rule it out completely.

I mean we already know characters like Dracula have joined Gallem's side. So it's possibly Gannon and Ridley did too. Personally I'd rather that, it would make facing then a bigger deal, but I'm not expecting it.

Its interesting that was swayed.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Ive heard the name, but whomst the **** is Katalina

To put it simply, Ice Knight Waifu from a Japanese Gacha Phone game.

 

[Noipoi]

Its interesting that was swayed.

K Rool is definitely evil, but I don't think he's destroy the world evil. He'd have nothing to rule, and no Kongs to kill.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

K Rool is definitely evil, but I don't think he's destroy the world evil. He'd have nothing to rule, and no Kongs to kill.

What he's done is pretty darn low though. Purposely stealing bananas so the Kongs could starve. Pretty evil if you ask me.

Once that failed he decided to kidnap his nemesis, something that took Bowser 20 years to decide to do!

 

[Luigi The President]

K Rool is definitely evil, but I don't think he's destroy the world evil. He'd have nothing to rule, and no Kongs to kill.

He's wacky evil.

 

[Deleted member]

I hope you don't consider irrelevant characters like Isaac, Banjo, and Geno as being more deserving than an iconic enemy like Piranha plant. Now a new Zelda character I can get behind.

I like how we can all just now call characters like Banjo, Geno, and Isaac "irrelevant" still after Richter's reveal, Isaac becoming an AT again and having an actual voice actor and when Piranha Plant got announced.

I'm pretty sure nobody would be saying this had he not been announced as a bonus fighter.

 

[Pakky]

K Rool is definitely evil, but I don't think he's destroy the world evil. He'd have nothing to rule, and no Kongs to kill.

No bananas no treasure... NO OUTFITS!!!!!

He is a pirate so, makes sense though seeing fight with would be great.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I thought Dracula, Galleom and the bosses were controlled like the characters were.

It's real hard to imagine Balder working for that thing.

 

[FreeFox]

Bowser Jr. almost got cut from Smash 4 due to the reasons. Imagine the timeline that Bowser Jr didn't even make in the game. I think it would blows if we lose Bowser Jr, like we did with Rhythm Heaven rep. Here's 22 days countdown! #SmashBros #SmashBrosUltimate pic.twitter.com/FLqvX1vivT

— IntelliHeath (@IntelliHeath) November 15, 2018

This reminds of the fact that this is basically the place where Kirby crashes in the World of Light trailer.

My new fan theory is that in Smash For, the characters were looking for new recruits to help them against the menace that is Galleem.

 

[Luigi The President]

I like how we can all just now call characters like Banjo, Geno, and Isaac "irrelevant" still after Richter's reveal, Isaac becoming an AT again and having an actual voice actor and when Piranha Plant got announced.

I'm pretty sure nobody would be saying this had he not been announced as a bonus fighter.

> BUT TOTS HES A FREAKING SIDE CHARACTER!!! AND B&K ISN'T POPUALR ANYMORE AND GS IS A DEAD FRANCHISE!!!
Sorry, just, that stuff kinda gets me in relation to Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

Also with all the talk about Marvel here, just gonna drop that looking from the outside, Hawkeye is the one with biggest pair in there.
Dude isnt on a high-tech suit of armor, doesnt has radiation super powers, isnt a god, isnt a mutant or inhuman (whatever they call them those days), and isnt even on the super-soldier juice (Cap would still a patriotic little guy, but still a little guy).
What does he bring to the table: A piece of metal with some string and pointy sticks.

We also have Punisher.

 

[Will]

Bowser Jr. almost got cut from Smash 4 due to the reasons. Imagine the timeline that Bowser Jr didn't even make in the game. I think it would blows if we lose Bowser Jr, like we did with Rhythm Heaven rep. Here's 22 days countdown! #SmashBros #SmashBrosUltimate pic.twitter.com/FLqvX1vivT

— IntelliHeath (@IntelliHeath) November 15, 2018

Ah yes, who could forget the reasons reasons being... the reasons.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

When you guys really get down to it. King K. Rool is a more successful villain in his schemes then Bowser has ever pulled. Helps that he's smarter too.

 

[Noipoi]

Have we not learned that the relevancy argument is irrelevant?

Even when the characters chosen are relevant (), it's the fighter potential that pushes them over the edge into character territory.

 

[Pakky]

I thought Dracula, Galleom and the bosses were controlled like the characters were.

It's real hard to imagine Balder working for that thing.

True

papa NO!!!!

Balder: YES (Possessed by M.Bison)

When you guys really get down to it. King K. Rool is a more successful villain in his schemes then Bowser has ever pulled. Helps that he's smarter too.

He's like Eggman Smart which is terrifying...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

He's like Eggman Smart which is terrifying...

Great now I want to see them face each other in a game of Chess.

 

[Noipoi]

When you guys really get down to it. King K. Rool is a more successful villain in his schemes then Bowser has ever pulled. Helps that he's smarter too.

If Bowser wanted he could probably pull off some wicked schemes, but he's too in love with Peach too bother.

K Rool's mad genius doesn't have time for princesses, he's got some Kongs to take out.

 

[doomedtacox]

I like how we can all just now call characters like Banjo, Geno, and Isaac "irrelevant" still after Richter's reveal, Isaac becoming an AT again and having an actual voice actor and when Piranha Plant got announced.

I'm pretty sure nobody would be saying this had he not been announced as a bonus fighter.

Richter was irrelevant prior to his reveal. He has nothing to do with Isaac, Banjo, or Geno.

 

[Luigi The President]

Richter was irrelevant prior to his reveal. He has nothing to do with Isaac, Banjo, or Geno.

So he was irrelevant, you're saying

 

[Zinith]

Kamek isn't smart, but as you go through Yoshi's Island he gets progressively more insane and unhinged...