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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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NineS

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I know you're reading this. Vote 2B.
I got Dragon Quest XI today and I gotta say...it is very nostalgic to play! The sound design, the music, it is pretty wonderful.

Though it did really make me thing...How the **** would Slime work in Smash!? Would it be a totem pole of them fighting?

Would we see it with a sword, shield and bandana on?! I cannot for the life of see it working.

And yes "But Piranha Plant!". I will say, PP has changed over the years from being stationary, walking, in a pot, humanoid, etc.

Where Slime has just kind of....stayed the same? If that makes any sense. I would love to see Sakurai pull it off IF that is our Rep, but thinking on it, I just cant see it.

Anyhoo, anything exciting new happened?
Slime seems simple.
But it can do a ridiculous amount of stuff.

Plus, Piranha plant isn't a single piranha plant in Smash. It's practically tons of different species of Piranha plants bundled up into one.
If they really needed to, they could do the same with Slime, I mean, there's a ton of slimes types.
Here: https://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Slime_family

Let me post a picture with just a few of them to give you a good idea of the many different slimes that Slime could transform into for moves or borrow abilities from similar to Piranha plant.
 
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I'm having a dilemma. Tinder date just invited me over but I want to keep ****posting on Smashboards. wat do?
The fact that you're on here asking us this "non issue"...I think you really need this date...
 

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Hitagi says he's herd some stuff about a DQ character but nothing about Sora and Geno.
Covered that two pages ago lol.

If Geno and Sora aren't on the list than it's either a DQ Rep, Lara Croft, or a second FF Rep.

Personally hoping for Terra Branford. If we don't get Sora I want it to be her. Lara Croft would be cool as well.
 

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Covered that two pages ago lol.

If Geno and Sora aren't on the list than it's either a DQ Rep, Lara Croft, or a second FF Rep.

Personally hoping for Terra Branford. If we don't get Sora I want it to be her. Lara Croft would be cool as well.
he was responding to AugustusB, who asked what was new
 

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Slime seems simple.
But it can do a ridiculous amount of stuff.

Plus, Piranha plant isn't a single piranha plant in Smash. It's practically tons of different species of Piranha plants bundled up into one.
If they really needed to, they could do the same with Slime, I mean, there's a ton of slimes types.
Here: https://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Slime_family

Let me post a picture with just a few of them to give you a good idea of the many different slimes that Slime could transform into for moves or borrow abilities from similar to Piranha plant.
Oh I know the slimes Nines, and looking over the pics there were certainly some I forgot. Thanks, I could see some transformation attacks happening.

So now the question would be, how BIG would slime be? Maybe Pikachu size?
 
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There are reboots? They're not on the same quality as the DmC reboot are they?
Nah, they're not bad and serve as a sort of prequel to the originals. Think diet Uncharted in terms of overall game feel.
 
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I think that's a good idea, but the heroes of Dragon Quest aren't as interchangeable as many people think. Some are taller than others, some are more built, some are shorter, some are skinnier. Heck, even their mannerisms are different, going by how they're usually portrayed in art pictures and whatnot. For example, you wouldn't see Abel posing like Auster. Contrary to popular belief, most of the heroes actually give off a different vibe compared to one another, but they don't speak, so it's probably just in my head. Take a look for yourself:

View attachment 177010 These guys don't feel the same at all. Silent protagonists do sometimes give off character via animations, design, and the way people interact with them in game. Most of the DQ heroes feel different from each other because of this, at least in the games that I've played.

I feel like an idea like that would only work for the first three heroes; Erdrick and his decedents. From 4 on up, it's a little hard to see them all acting, posing, and fighting like each other. That's the main reason I can't fully get behind the idea of having all the heroes as alts. What we need is one hero to represent them all, and I firmly believe Erdrick is that hero.
Plus you could have all three of them do something for their final smash.
Like Megaman Legends except with Dragon Quest.
 
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torneko would own


everyone expecting some puppet or teenboy with a sword buts its just fat dad who loves his wife's sandwhiches and got rich from selling loot he found
 
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Slime seems simple.
But it can do a ridiculous amount of stuff.

Plus, Piranha plant isn't a single piranha plant in Smash. It's practically tons of different species of Piranha plants bundled up into one.
If they really needed to, they could do the same with Slime, I mean, there's a ton of slimes types.
Here: https://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Slime_family

Let me post a picture with just a few of them to give you a good idea of the many different slimes that Slime could transform into for moves or borrow abilities from similar to Piranha plant.
Is...is that a Pikmin slime I see on the bottom-right...?
 

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Are we really leaning toward Erdrick, Katalina and Steve? X_X Holy Hannah, I may legit regret buying the pass. XD
 

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Covered that two pages ago lol.

If Geno and Sora aren't on the list than it's either a DQ Rep, Lara Croft, or a second FF Rep.

Personally hoping for Terra Branford. If we don't get Sora I want it to be her. Lara Croft would be cool as well.
I still have doubts of Hitagi's credibility. Katalina I just don't see happening, it makes more sense that Nintendo would want to push one of their own characters over her. Vergeben confirmed that he hadn't heard anything when it came in regards to her. Also Hitagi kind of back peddled when it came to Steve. In my opinion I would trust more what Vergeben says than Hitagi and unless Vergeben says the same thing I would not put much stock in this claim.
 

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There are reboots? They're not on the same quality as the DmC reboot are they?
Cant speak for the first one but the second one is Uncharted with Lara Croft instead... and the first one at least was more Graphically violent than Uncharted.
 

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I'm going to briefly ****post:

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I do have to wonder how much people may be overlooking a SE character that hasn't been mentioned nearly as much. Like Tifa, or Sephiroth? I'm not sure how Sephiroth would work exactly, but I think Tifa would be brilliant as a rushdown brawler type.

Also, figure I'll keep this thread updated, but currently at 450 votes in my poll. To be honest, I only expected to get at a MAX 200 votes, but here we are. I'm really pumped to dig into the data itself. I plan on conducting a few interviews as well so I might be reaching out at some point to ask questions about things related to character speculation.
 

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I'd actually love that. What moveset could he have?
his kit in dragon quest heroes 2 has him using a massive ton of random items and weapons that he has in his backpack. most notably is a giant flail and a war horn
 

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I know you're reading this. Vote 2B.
Oh I know the slimes Nines, and looking over the pics there were certainly some I forgot. Thanks, I could see some transformation attacks happening.

So now the question would be, how BIG would slime be? Maybe Pikachu size?
Slime would probably be around the size of Pikachu or Kirby.
Is...is that a Pikmin slime I see on the bottom-right...?
Yes.
Pretty close, actually It's called a "Tree Slime".
 
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I'm going to briefly ****post:


I do have to wonder how much people may be overlooking a SE character that hasn't been mentioned nearly as much. Like Tifa, or Sephiroth? I'm not sure how Sephiroth would work exactly, but I think Tifa would be brilliant as a rushdown brawler type.

Also, figure I'll keep this thread updated, but currently at 450 votes in my poll. To be honest, I only expected to get at a MAX 200 votes, but here we are. I'm really pumped to dig into the data itself. I plan on conducting a few interviews as well so I might be reaching out at some point to ask questions about things related to character speculation.
Id definitely would be down for Sephiroth plus we can finally get one winged angel in the midgar stage! I still don't understand why that song is not apart of that stage's music list.
 

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I'm having a dilemma. Tinder date just invited me over but I want to keep ****posting on Smashboards. wat do?
I don't know what's worse, the fact that this is even a debate for you or the fact that, as a comedian, your first instinct wasn't to go over and say,

"I heard you're down to Smash"

And then whip out a Gamecube controller and Smash Bros.. Like what the ****?
 
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I took a brief look at Hitagi's reddit... I can't see what you guys or Verge see in this guy.

One second he's entertaining the Sora and DQ idea, the next he's shooting it down. Then he says Katalina and Steve are in but immediately backpedals. And the whole "Youll recognize the Square Rep when you see them" thing is such a non-statement..

Could it be possible we might got Loz18 2.0 on our hands? Verge did trust him too...
 

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Hold up, your telling me Hitagi has heard absolutely nothing about Sora or Geno, yet has heard about Dragon Quest of being the SE Rep!?

I am kind of getting Spawnwave vibes with this. In the way of DQ is ALL he has heard. How many sources does this guy have compared to Vergeben?

I don't think I would trust this too much until Super Computer Verge has gotten confirmation and says "Y is SQ Rep"
 

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Katalina/Steve/Erdrick doesn't seem like a very Sakurai group of newcomers, nor does it seem like a very Nintendo group of newcomers, at least to me. I feel like we're severely lacking something, or are otherwise being led astray, at least personally.
 

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Are we really leaning toward Erdrick, Katalina and Steve? X_X Holy Hannah, I may legit regret buying the pass. XD
That's the thing about buying something before you fully know what it is. For all we know, the 5 fighters could be Tanooki Mario, Cat Peach, Bubsy the Bobcat, Rowan from FE:W, and a Deku Baba in a flower pot.

I'm personally going to get the fighter pass because I know it's something I'm going to buy anyway no matter how amazing or atrocious the roster is, but if there's specific types of characters you're routing for, it may be best to wait.
 
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Hitagi is practically shutting down any character in existence that's not Steve or Katalina
He's not necessarily shooting them down, just that he hasn't heard anything about them, provided he's legit in the first place.
Except for Paper Mario he's probably dead.
 
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Assuming that everything Hitagi is saying is true (and I'm still skeptical of that as of right now):
-Doesn't seem to be Geno
-Doesn't seem to be Sora
-All of the supposed characters on the list are fairly well-known

So by that logic, I'm thinking either:
- Another Final Fantasy rep
- Lara Croft

I'm hesitant on putting an DQ rep on there, although the series is popular, I don't really think there's a character that's well-known throughout the gaming community; Slime is probably the closest though.

*Despite Hitagi's decent credibility as a leaker, I always try to take info from leakers with a grain of salt. *
DQ could easily be one of the characters if said character is Slime. There's also Crono.

I'd say 2B is also pretty well known. Even the people that haven't played her game know her from hentai.
 

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I know you're reading this. Vote 2B.
I took a brief look at Hitagi's reddit... I can't see what you guys or Verge see in this guy.

One second he's entertaining the Sora and DQ idea, the next he's shooting it down. Then he says Katalina and Steve are in but immediately backpedals. And the whole "Youll recognize the Square Rep when you see them" thing is such a non-statement..

Could it be possible we might got Loz18 2.0 on our hands? Verge did trust him too...
Difference between LoZ and Hitagi is that Hitagi has been a leaker for way longer, and has a longer history with Vergeben. Not to mention, leaks multiple other games and has a very good track record.
LoZ18 just kind of popped up out of nowhere one day and because he got E3 right, people trusted him.
Vergeben didn't entirely trust him. He thinks of LoZ18 as an ass. He did swap some info with him once in private, just because of the minor credibility LoZ18 had at the time, but LoZ18 lost all his trust quickly after.

Not saying to believe Hitagi, but I'm confident they're not another LoZ18.
They're a legitimate leaker, probably just with some bad sources.
LoZ18 was just a guy who leaked some stuff at E3, had some lucky guesses, then bailed out.
 
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I took a brief look at Hitagi's reddit... I can't see what you guys or Verge see in this guy.

One second he's entertaining the Sora and DQ idea, the next he's shooting it down. Then he says Katalina and Steve are in but immediately backpedals. And the whole "Youll recognize the Square Rep when you see them" thing is such a non-statement..

Could it be possible we might got Loz18 2.0 on our hands? Verge did trust him too...
Definitely see him as the new Loz18. He seems to be more speculating than actually leaking just like Loz18. He backpedals on so many of his supposed leaks that its hard to take him seriously.
 
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