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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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LetterO

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im implying a bethesda character would be bad, not that bethesda is bad. bethesda does put out some trash but at least they made doom so i can't put them on my **** list
That's cool, but you don't need to chime in crapping on ideas without elaborating for no reason at all.
 

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**** me people are still meming Snake's ***.

I'd rather go back to when we were all fighting about the Grinch leak then hear about that again.
At least people aren't constantly attacking eachother over Snake's butt like they were with the Grinch leak. Thank goodness it got shut down when it did, I probably couldn't have taken much more ridicule for being on "Team Fake". I was this close to leaving the speculation scene until we got confirmation.
 

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The best part is that they didn't even fix it and that image was posted during E3.

It's hilarious what the power of placebo can do.


Is this what it’s like to be bamboozled? Or maybe I should’ve paid attention to E3 footage. :urg:
It was fun in the moment, but i'd rather not.
The Grinch leak days were interesting days, but not days I want to relive. I much prefer knowing the base roster.
I was just browsing Grinch leak comments pre-November 1st and how people were going all in on team real just before the direct; I cringed at the thought of everyone getting their hopes up so high. Those deconfirmations must have been excruciating.

We wasted so much time on that thing.
 
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I use my phone more on work days and my laptop more on my days off. I tend to check in on the most recent page on my phone when I'm on break or lunch while I follow the thread much more closely when I'm not working.

I certainly prefer using my laptop when it's possible though.
 

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Whoops thought this was the CT for a moment lmao


Okay so DLC is still going around. I still want my Crash though and he's too big to pass up
 
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Is this what it’s like to be bamboozled? Or maybe I should’ve paid attention to E3 footage. :urg:

I was just browsing Grinch leak comments pre-November 1st and how people were going all in on team real just before the direct; I cringed at the thought of everyone getting their hopes up so high. Those deconfirmations must have been excruciating.

We waisted so much time on that thing.
The moment Isaac and Shadow were shown as assist trophies I expected a **** storm on this site. I'm glad I was sorta wrong.
 

Scoliosis Jones

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Something to think about with DLC this time. I feel like people are doing the same things we've always done, and are applying rules to things that the community focuses on, and because of it may end up getting BTFO in the end.

Or at least it seems almost like exactly the same thing every time. Granted, we make rules because we are trying to find ways to narrow down who is in, but these "rules" are arbitrary and in reality, we don't know how any of this is going to pan out. We have a few rumors going around that have a sort of validity because of who is spreading it, but beyond that we've got nothing.

Now, I might be in the minority. But I absolutely think there's no reason to believe Spirits or Mii Fighter costumes disconfirm anyone for DLC at this point in time. If more information comes out that deliberately says, "If they show up here, they won't be playable", then we've got a concrete rule. Other than that, consider the possibilities. Basically, if Sakurai comes out in Famitsu and says, "Yeah Rex isn't going to be playable", then BAM!, it's decided. But until we get that, I see no reason to rule that sort of thing out.

Anyway, Spirits were deliberately noted as a replacement for trophies. In Smash Wii U, Lucas and Mewtwo started as trophies, and then received their very own Fighter trophies when they were DLC. This is extremely similar to the way spirits would work. The equivalent would be, "Oh look, they have a generic spirit." Then once they're downloaded, "Oh look, they have a fighter spirit!" That right there tells me there's nothing to worry about.

If a character with a Spirit becomes playable, they will receive a fighter spirit. It's just like how Mewtwo and Lucas had generic trophies and then had Fighter Trophies after.

Furthermore, with the whole Miif Fighter costume thing. Plenty of people seem to think Rex is basically screwed for DLC, but I don't think it's that clear at this point. Sure, he's got a Mii Fighter costume. Sure, we've never seen a Mii Fighter get the playable character in the same game. However, there's no pattern to be following, and what was true for Smash 4 with the Mii Fighters could absolutely be different. The way I see it, if they revealed the Chrom Mii Fighter costume first, plenty of fans would have assumed Chrom was out. It's quite the opposite however. Chrom is also in Robin's Final Smash (one of the most ridiculous things about this game I might add). Just something to think about.

Prior to the tweets from Sakurai after the Direct stating that the "DLC characters were picked" everyone assumed that what Sakurai meant by his statements on Rex being too late to be in game was meant to cover base roster and DLC. While there may have been talks of who they would include ahead of time, Sakurai himself tweeted that they were decided after the Direct, which to me, greatly shakes things up.

I think the pool of fighters that have a chance at DLC is pretty interesting. I think it will absolutely be a mix of 3rd parties and marketing, but keep in mind that they (Nintendo) aren't going to:

1) Force Sakurai to develop the characters they want
2) Not do market research to find out what will make them plenty of money/invest in series that can make them more money down the line

This is yet another reason, and I'm sure it's annoying at this point, that I wouldn't count Rex out. Rex and Pyra were easily one of Japan's top newcomer choices, and not adding them (or Elma) would be...an interesting decision. While Xenoblade isn't a huge series by any means, it's a budding one. If the don't add a character now, that seems like a missed opportunity to me at least.

Just keep an open mind and don't let these "rules" discount literally hundreds of options. I wouldn't count on Assist Trophies though, those ****ers are disconfirmed imo simply based on the effort and time the development of them took.
 
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Mobile users are the most oppressed minority of all.
Man, I can already imagine the Smash trailer if Crono gets in.
I MEAN COME ON, ARC IMPULSE LITERALLY MAKES THE SMASH LOGO.
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seeing this reminds me of how I never actuaoly got any triple techs other than triple strike because i always used crono/magus, frog and robo in my party.

Wait
Delta Force is the name of the main trio's Triple Tech
Delta Force
Delta Rune

"Is Crono secretely Lancer?"
 
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Something to think about with DLC this time. I feel like people are doing the same things we've always done, and are applying rules to things that the community focuses on, and because of it may end up getting BTFO in the end.

Or at least it seems almost like exactly the same thing every time. Granted, we make rules because we are trying to find ways to narrow down who is in, but these "rules" are arbitrary and in reality, we don't know how any of this is going to pan out. We have a few rumors going around that have a sort of validity because of who is spreading it, but beyond that we've got nothing.

Now, I might be in the minority. But I absolutely think there's no reason to believe Spirits or Mii Fighter costumes disconfirm anyone for DLC at this point in time. If more information comes out that deliberately says, "If they show up here, they won't be playable", then we've got a concrete rule. Other than that, consider the possibilities. Basically, if Sakurai comes out in Famitsu and says, "Yeah Rex isn't going to be playable", then BAM!, it's decided. But until we get that, I see no reason to rule that sort of thing out.

Anyway, Spirits were deliberately noted as a replacement for trophies. In Smash Wii U, Lucas and Mewtwo started as trophies, and then received their very own Fighter trophies when they were DLC. This is extremely similar to the way spirits would work. The equivalent would be, "Oh look, they have a generic spirit." Then once they're downloaded, "Oh look, they have a fighter spirit!" That right there tells me there's nothing to worry about.

If a character with a Spirit becomes playable, they will receive a fighter spirit. It's just like how Mewtwo and Lucas had generic trophies and then had Fighter Trophies after.

Furthermore, with the whole Miif Fighter costume thing. Plenty of people seem to think Rex is basically screwed for DLC, but I don't think it's that clear at this point. Sure, he's got a Mii Fighter costume. Sure, we've never seen a Mii Fighter get the playable character in the same game. However, there's no pattern to be following, and what was true for Smash 4 with the Mii Fighters could absolutely be different. The way I see it, if they revealed the Chrom Mii Fighter costume first, plenty of fans would have assumed Chrom was out. It's quite the opposite however. Chrom is also in Robin's Final Smash (one of the most ridiculous things about this game I might add). Just something to think about.

Prior to the tweets from Sakurai after the Direct stating that the "DLC characters were picked" everyone assumed that what Sakurai meant by his statements on Rex being too late to be in game was meant to cover base roster and DLC. While there may have been talks of who they would include ahead of time, Sakurai himself tweeted that they were decided after the Direct, which to me, greatly shakes things up.

I think the pool of fighters that have a chance at DLC is pretty interesting. I think it will absolutely be a mix of 3rd parties and marketing, but keep in mind that they aren't going to:

1) Force Sakurai to develop the characters they want
2) Not do market research to find out what will make them plenty of money/invest in series that can make them more money down the line

This is yet another reason, and I'm sure it's annoying at this point, that I wouldn't count Rex out. Rex and Pyra were easily one of Japan's top newcomer choices, and not adding them (or Elma) would be...an interesting decision. While Xenoblade isn't a huge series by any means, it's a budding one. If the don't add a character now, that seems like a missed opportunity to me at least.

Just keep an open mind and don't let these "rules" discount literally hundreds of options. I wouldn't count on Assist Trophies though, those ****ers are disconfirmed imo simply based on the effort and time the development of them took.
You write really long paragraphs lol. Not a bad thing, though.
 
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Why... why would people use any theme other than the default one?
Something to think about with DLC this time. I feel like people are doing the same things we've always done, and are applying rules to things that the community focuses on, and because of it may end up getting BTFO in the end.

Or at least it seems almost like exactly the same thing every time. Granted, we make rules because we are trying to find ways to narrow down who is in, but these "rules" are arbitrary and in reality, we don't know how any of this is going to pan out. We have a few rumors going around that have a sort of validity because of who is spreading it, but beyond that we've got nothing.

Now, I might be in the minority. But I absolutely think there's no reason to believe Spirits or Mii Fighter costumes disconfirm anyone for DLC at this point in time. If more information comes out that deliberately says, "If they show up here, they won't be playable", then we've got a concrete rule. Other than that, consider the possibilities. Basically, if Sakurai comes out in Famitsu and says, "Yeah Rex isn't going to be playable", then BAM!, it's decided. But until we get that, I see no reason to rule that sort of thing out.

Anyway, Spirits were deliberately noted as a replacement for trophies. In Smash Wii U, Lucas and Mewtwo started as trophies, and then received their very own Fighter trophies when they were DLC. This is extremely similar to the way spirits would work. The equivalent would be, "Oh look, they have a generic spirit." Then once they're downloaded, "Oh look, they have a fighter spirit!" That right there tells me there's nothing to worry about.

If a character with a Spirit becomes playable, they will receive a fighter spirit. It's just like how Mewtwo and Lucas had generic trophies and then had Fighter Trophies after.

Furthermore, with the whole Miif Fighter costume thing. Plenty of people seem to think Rex is basically screwed for DLC, but I don't think it's that clear at this point. Sure, he's got a Mii Fighter costume. Sure, we've never seen a Mii Fighter get the playable character in the same game. However, there's no pattern to be following, and what was true for Smash 4 with the Mii Fighters could absolutely be different. The way I see it, if they revealed the Chrom Mii Fighter costume first, plenty of fans would have assumed Chrom was out. It's quite the opposite however. Chrom is also in Robin's Final Smash (one of the most ridiculous things about this game I might add). Just something to think about.

Prior to the tweets from Sakurai after the Direct stating that the "DLC characters were picked" everyone assumed that what Sakurai meant by his statements on Rex being too late to be in game was meant to cover base roster and DLC. While there may have been talks of who they would include ahead of time, Sakurai himself tweeted that they were decided after the Direct, which to me, greatly shakes things up.

I think the pool of fighters that have a chance at DLC is pretty interesting. I think it will absolutely be a mix of 3rd parties and marketing, but keep in mind that they aren't going to:

1) Force Sakurai to develop the characters they want
2) Not do market research to find out what will make them plenty of money/invest in series that can make them more money down the line

This is yet another reason, and I'm sure it's annoying at this point, that I wouldn't count Rex out. Rex and Pyra were easily one of Japan's top newcomer choices, and not adding them (or Elma) would be...an interesting decision. While Xenoblade isn't a huge series by any means, it's a budding one. If the don't add a character now, that seems like a missed opportunity to me at least.

Just keep an open mind and don't let these "rules" discount literally hundreds of options. I wouldn't count on Assist Trophies though, those ****ers are disconfirmed imo simply based on the effort and time the development of them took.
Reminder the Smash fanbase consensus has never accuratelly predicted a character without the aid of a credibke leak.
Except the Inklings
 
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