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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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FreeFox

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Telling you all, the Slime would be the most unique Character.
Examples below:
Like a third party ROB?
i have a slime controller

its honestly one of the worst controllers ever
It really sounds like a third party ROB.
i never did say it was a good controller
honestly, it doesn't look comfortable at all.
it looks like more of a collectable if anything.
Slime, third party ROb confirmed.
 

KMDP

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For those who don't know, this is what my Dream character that I want to have in Smash looks like:

View attachment 176111
I legit thought this is a boy, and I still wish it was
Generic fates enemy... I like it
And here I was thinking my pipe dream character (Charlotte) was a long shot.
If we're talking traps, put plane trap in smash
"30?"!?

Stab it with a fork.
I will cast my vote on Isaac then. My best bud was devastated after the Direct, and I was rooting for his most-wanted, too.
Anyone who says Isaac wasn't wanted should take a look at... well... pretty much every Direct reaction, especially the NY one.

The sheer number of people who were disappointed by Isaac's AT reveal (or disappointed on behalf of others) is frankly astounding.
 
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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke

Oh yeah another Dana supporter ! Yes ! We're two now #Dana4Smash :awesome:
 

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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke
Revolver Ocelot with Quiet's animations and personality
 

KMDP

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It really sounds like a third party ROB.
The Slime Controller exists.

In fact I'm pretty sure there's more than one version (since this is a PS4 version and I'm fairly sure I've seen a PS3 one).
 

osby

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Man, that thing happens all the time. See: the American comics industry.
See: How Japanese video game industry generally treats other people's work with more respect, especially ATLUS. They invited Tadashi Satomi back, just so that he can supervise their port of first games. They use recycled voice clips for Igor for years because his voice actor passed away.

These things happen all the time, but you likely won't see it happen with ATLUS, which for all its punkness, is still a very traditional company in many aspects.
 

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How do you guys feel about every character getting 8 and only 8 costumes? The lack of buyable alt costumers in the shop is a minor blow, not gonna lie.
 

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Everyone under 2010:

Back in my day we used MySpace to connect with people, Twitter didn't exist.
Maybe if you were late to AOL.

Hey everyone. Would a possible Nintendo direct for November 8th be announced tomorrow (Tuesday)? Or would it be announced on Wednesday?
It might not get announced at all. If it's a Mini-Direct, it might just drop.
 

osby

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How do you guys feel about every character getting 8 and only 8 costumes? The lack of buyable alt costumers in the shop is a minor blow, not gonna lie.
Understandable. Even if they wanted to add, say, two to everyone, it would make over 140 additional costumes.
 

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Also, fun fact: half of the unique newcomers in Smash Ultimate have been in cartoons before.





Inkling, Ridley, and K. Rool have also featured in manga before, along with possibly Isabelle and Simon as well - Incineroar still hasn't shown up.

What does this mean?

Nothing! But it's worth noting that Simon Belmont is still MIA from the Castlevania Netflix show despite two seasons. He's still in the shadow of his more handsome self from Captain N.
 

osby

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Also, fun fact: half of the unique newcomers in Smash Ultimate have been in cartoons before.





Inkling, Ridley, and K. Rool have also featured in manga before, along with possibly Isabelle and Simon as well - Incineroar still hasn't shown up.

What does this mean?

Nothing! But it's worth noting that Simon Belmont is still MIA from the Castlevania Netflix show despite two seasons. He's still in the shadow of his more handsome self from Captain N.
Too many anime characters.
 

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Will we get YouTube himself as an assist trophy? He demonetizes you, which prevents you from gaining any more gold.
all of the prospective SQ reps' names end in vowels.
Gen-O
Sor-A
Nek-U
Chron-O
... uh... Slim-E?
Her-O?
OAUOEO
**** it.

Character #75, DLC Fighter Pack Character #5 needs to be none other than Goku himself. :p
What a way to end Ultimate's content with a bang. :troll:
Don't you mean Vegeta?
He's the only one that can end this with a bang.

A Big Bang to be precise.
 

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So we don't know how we'll unlock characters yet? Well I'm gonna order the unlock order by the same way it was in Smash 4. Every 10 battles unlocks a character and it will be in order when each one was revealed in Smash. That INCLUDES Echoes. Pokemon Trainer counts as 1 and the Mii Fighters have to be unlocked separately...

:ultluigi:10
:ultness:20
:ultfalcon:30
:ultjigglypuff:40
:ultpeach:50
:ultbowser:60
:ulticeclimbers:70
:ultsheik:80
:ultzelda:90
:ultdoc:100
:ultpichu:110
:ultfalco:120
:ultmarth:130
:ultyounglink:140
:ultganondorf:150
:ultmewtwo:160
:ultroy:170
:ultgnw:180
:ultmetaknight:190
:ultpit:200
:ultzss:210
:ultwario:220
:ultsnake:230
:ultike:240
:ultpokemontrainer:250
:ultdiddy:260
:ultlucas:270
:ultsonic:280
:ultkingdedede:290
:ultolimar:300
:ultlucario:310
:ultrob:320
:ulttoonlink:330
:ultwolf:340
:ultvillager:350
:ultmegaman:360
:ultwiifittrainer:370
:ultrosalina:380
:ultlittlemac:390
:ultgreninja:400
:ultpalutena:410
:ultpacman:420
:ultlucina:430
:ultrobin:440
:ultshulk:450
:ultdarkpit:460
:ultbowserjr:470
:ultduckhunt:480
:ultryu:490
:ultcloud:500
:ultcorrin:510
:ultbayonetta:520
:ultinkling:530
:ultdaisy:540
:ultridley:550
:ultsimon:560
:ultrichter:570
:ultchrom:580
:ultdarksamus:590
:ultkrool:600
:ultisabelle:610
:ultken:620
:ultincineroar:630
 

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Also, fun fact: half of the unique newcomers in Smash Ultimate have been in cartoons before.





Inkling, Ridley, and K. Rool have also featured in manga before, along with possibly Isabelle and Simon as well - Incineroar still hasn't shown up.

What does this mean?

Nothing! But it's worth noting that Simon Belmont is still MIA from the Castlevania Netflix show despite two seasons. He's still in the shadow of his more handsome self from Captain N.
Ridley made a cameo in Captain N as well.
 

osby

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So we don't know how we'll unlock characters yet? Well I'm gonna order the unlock order by the same way it was in Smash 4. Every 10 battles unlocks a character and it will be in order when each one was revealed in Smash. That INCLUDES Echoes. Pokemon Trainer counts as 1 and the Mii Fighters have to be unlocked separately...

:ultluigi:10
:ultness:20
:ultfalcon:30
:ultjigglypuff:40
:ultpeach:50
:ultbowser:60
:ulticeclimbers:70
:ultsheik:80
:ultzelda:90
:ultdoc:100
:ultpichu:110
:ultfalco:120
:ultmarth:130
:ultyounglink:140
:ultganondorf:150
:ultmewtwo:160
:ultroy:170
:ultgnw:180
:ultmetaknight:190
:ultpit:200
:ultzss:210
:ultwario:220
:ultsnake:230
:ultike:240
:ultpokemontrainer:250
:ultdiddy:260
:ultlucas:270
:ultsonic:280
:ultkingdedede:290
:ultolimar:300
:ultlucario:310
:ultrob:320
:ulttoonlink:330
:ultwolf:340
:ultvillager:350
:ultmegaman:360
:ultwiifittrainer:370
:ultrosalina:380
:ultlittlemac:390
:ultgreninja:400
:ultpalutena:410
:ultpacman:420
:ultlucina:430
:ultrobin:440
:ultshulk:450
:ultdarkpit:460
:ultbowserjr:470
:ultduckhunt:480
:ultryu:490
:ultcloud:500
:ultcorrin:510
:ultbayonetta:520
:ultinkling:530
:ultdaisy:540
:ultridley:550
:ultsimon:560
:ultrichter:570
:ultchrom:580
:ultdarksamus:590
:ultkrool:600
:ultisabelle:610
:ultken:620
:ultincineroar:630
Can't wait to pull three all-nighters to unlock Bayo.
 

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Also, fun fact: half of the unique newcomers in Smash Ultimate have been in cartoons before.





Inkling, Ridley, and K. Rool have also featured in manga before, along with possibly Isabelle and Simon as well - Incineroar still hasn't shown up.

What does this mean?

Nothing! But it's worth noting that Simon Belmont is still MIA from the Castlevania Netflix show despite two seasons. He's still in the shadow of his more handsome self from Captain N.
My main man Deathborn was also in an Anime... so...

there's that...
 
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I remember a lot of Ridel and K rool and Geno wants, nothing else really. Sonic/Snake absolutely blew peoples minds and no one could stop talking about it until the game came out.
That's all the confirmation I need, chief.
Paging Sakurai to finish the trinity as we speak.

hi hello why.png
 

KMDP

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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke
:ultcorrin: Charlotte

That is all.
Don't you mean Vegeta?
He's the only one that can end this with a bang.

A Big Bang to be precise.
A Big Bang followed by a Final Flash.
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To say something off-topic.
I'm playing a randomised Pokémon Heart Gold run (the Starters, Wild Encounters and Trainer Pokémon are randomised), which I've mentioned before (no, it is not a Nuzlocke).

I keep finding Legendary Pokémon in the Wild. There are Mewtwo in Burnt Tower, Rayquaza in the waters of Route 47 (the route leading to the new Safari Zone) and Giratina in Route 43 (between Mahogany and the Lake of Rage). Turns out the Legendary Wild Battle themes in HGSS are actually tied to the Pokémon and not the specific encounters).

Additionally, I'm currently in the Mahogany Rocket Hideout, it goes to show how nonthreatening the trainers can be when the Rocket Grunts called by the laser triggers have Gengar and are still not a threat (because Gengar or not they're only Level 17 when my team is Level 28-30).
 
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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke
:ultpikachu:: Slowking
:ultmegaman:: Tenguman
:ultfalcon:: Gomar & Shioh
:ultsonic:: Chao
 

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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke
:ultsonic:: Motorbug
:ultlink:: Octorock
:ultroy:: Dorcas
:ultlucas:: Negative Man
:ultryu:: Dan
:ultfalcon:: Phoenix
 

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I know you're reading this. Vote 2B.
There was a problem fetching the tweet
A lot of good points were made, honestly. That brings up the whole whether Sora is a Disney or Square rep thing, along with other things mentioned here, Disney and Nintendo having a more sour relationship than they used to now thanks to the theme parks.

I agree with everything said here by RingJ5 RingJ5
The idea of a DQ character being the Square rep is legitimately ridiculous considering that whichever character it is, it’d most likely be announced at the Game Awards. I can guarantee you that 10x more people watching the Game Awards would know who Geno was compared to any single Dragon Quest character besides Slime, which seems particularly unlikely considering that Piranha Plant just happened.

You could certainly make an argument that Piranha’s existence also makes Geno unlikely because they wouldn’t want two Mario reps in a row, but Geno’s prestige as one of the most highly-requested characters in the series’ history, plus how insanely different he is designwise to all other Mario reps does a lot to counteract that.

However, the next obvious question becomes “Why not Sora? He’d break the damn Internet if he was announced at such a huge event like that.” Well, funnily enough, breaking the internet is one of the main reasons why he’s particularly unlikely.

See, over the past few years, Nintendo’s opinion of Disney has particularly soured. From making Nintendo World with their biggest theme-park rival, to making a Mario movie with one of their biggest competitors in animation, to straight-up not allowing Mario to cameo in Ralph Breaks The Internet when he and Bowser appeared in the first movie, it seems extremely counter-intuitive to make a Disney character front-and-center in the marketing for the hands-down most anticipated game on their current system. Especially when it means that they’d have to give a cut of every purchase of the character and fighter pass to them as well.

Geno just seems the most likely candidate of the choices involved.
Well, minus the Slime/DQ bit. But that's about it.
I don't know about how likely Geno is, but he's certainly very likely to me.
And I'm not really sure how recognizable Geno would really be to anyone at the game awards... Any smash fans watching, though, would immediately recognize him.
 
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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke
Compared to these other choices I’m not sure Mighty is actually an oddball Choice. Little Smash support, sure, but you could go deeper. Here’s an oddball choice.

:ultsonic:: Bomb & Heavy



Playable badniks that actively hinder your progress through levels in Chaotix. And bomb is literally just the bombs from Sonic 1, 2, Chaos and Lost World but with arms.

:ultwario:: Spoiled Rotten.



Eggplants make for good fighters.

:ultluigi:: Professor E. Gadd.

Because no one expects a Luigi rep. :crying:
 

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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke
Oh, and I still want Boshi as a Yoshi rep
 

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If you had to choose a few “oddball” characters (like PP, just completely unexpected) from other series to be playable, who would you choose?

Here’s my list:
:ultlink:: Old Man
:ultkirby:: Whispy Woods
:ultsamus:: Metroid
:ultpikachu:: Alolan-Marowak
:ultness:: New Age Retro Hippie
:ultgnw:(Retro): Dana (Solomon’s Key)
:ultsonic:: Mighty
:ultpit:: Eggplant Wizard
:ultinkling:: Spyke
:ultmario: - Fluzzard
:ultkirby: - Rick
:ultpikachu: - Chandelure
:ultmarth: - Merric
:ultolimar: - Emperor Bulblax
:ultlittlemac: - Great Tiger
:ultisabelle: - Blathers
:ultryu: - Dhalsim
 

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There was a problem fetching the tweet
A lot of good points were made, honestly. That brings up the whole whether Sora is a Disney or Square rep thing, along with other things mentioned here, Disney and Nintendo having a more sour relationship than they used to now thanks to the theme parks.

I agree with everything said here by RingJ5 RingJ5


Well, minus the Slime/DQ bit. But that's about it.
I don't know about how likely Geno is, but he's certainly very likely to me.
And I'm not really sure how recognizable Geno would really be to anyone at the game awards...
I think the most likely DQ rep is Customizable Create-A-Hero who would have a moveset thats an amalgamation of DQ heroes throughout the franchises history.

Or it's Erdrick and has a bunch of hero alts like Alph or the Koopalings.
 
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There was a problem fetching the tweet
A lot of good points were made, honestly. That brings up the whole whether Sora is a Disney or Square rep thing, along with other things mentioned here, Disney and Nintendo having a more sour relationship than they used to now thanks to the theme parks.

I agree with everything said here by RingJ5 RingJ5


Well, minus the Slime/DQ bit. But that's about it.
I don't know about how likely Geno is, but he's certainly very likely to me.
And I'm not really sure how recognizable Geno would really be to anyone at the game awards...
****, I forgot that even Disney would also have to had a cut for the profits the Fighter Pass would bring, if Sora was included.

...Yikes, looks like Geno is the runner-up.
 

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Did that person really argue that not only would more people know Geno than any Dragon Quest characters other than Slime? Geno who is a literal who to most people outside of Smash Bros and was completely absent from all of Europe for a long time. And Dragon Quest which while not as huge as over in Japan has had multiple games brought over. 8 being very well received and getting a 3DS remake recently and DQXI having come out recently with a Switch port happening. Worldwide at that.

Not just more known but by 10x the amount? Really?

Im not against Geno but why do people overhype him like that while downplaying others? Also why would Slime suddenly not count?
 

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A customizable Create-A-Hero

wouldn't that just be a new Mii Fighter with a DQ-based moveset?
Imagine Ike but With magic and you can change his hair, shirt, and pants. Or make him a her.

So Robin with the ability to mix and match his/ her hair, shirt, pants, and maybe face.
 
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Dragon Quest 11 just released and has become a topseller with a future switch port...

SMRPG doesn't even get acknowledged by either company...
 
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A customizable Create-A-Hero

wouldn't that just be a new Mii Fighter with a DQ-based moveset?
Yep. If you want that, just play Mii Fighter, really.

It'd make more sense to have Erdrick with various alts or alts based upon the heroes(akin to Pokemon Trainer's in Brawl) if you want a Hero moveset. Otherwise, Slime honestly is another great choice that shows off just how important the Monsters are, and does a great job showing off the spin-offs(Dragon Quest Monsters, especially).

Of course, Slime being in more crossovers than any Hero certainly gives the blob a leg up on a Hero at this time, but who knows. It's not just about what SE usually does. It's also about moveset potential. Slime can easily be seen as a monster that's hard to imagine as playable for many. Yes, Sakurai made a mook playable. But that doesn't mean he'll have inspiration for any monster ever made. It's not that simple. It just means Slime is a lot more viable than people wanted to give it credit for, since it being a "generic enemy" isn't really an issue anymore. It still has other issues, respectively. And this is coming from someone who wants Slime in as the de facto DQ character(it helps he's the series' mascot, the PIkachu and all).
 
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