Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[FunAtParties]

The gameplay they showed doesn't confirm anything. Of course they're going to show a small highlight reel of the last invitational, what else are they gonna show?

 

[Wyoming]

Close to as guaranteed as possible we'll get information dumps/a direct before E3, surely?

 

[kylexv]

I'm thinking one of three possibilities leading up to E3:

1. There will be a Smash direct sometime in April/May showing the first gameplay footage and going in depth about a few new characters and new modes/mechanics.
2. Above, but it happens a few days before E3 like in 2015
3. The game is first showcased in the E3 direct, with the demo being available to con-goers immediately after. The invitational would have to be on the 12th then.

 

[T-Hell]

I mean, Sakurai seems to roll on his own all the time so I wouldn't be surprised if this means we're getting info way before E3, however I'm still thinking they will fully reveal the game at E3 right before the invitational thing.

 

[Staarih]

Close to as guaranteed as possible we'll get information dumps/a direct before E3, surely?

I guess, unless they want to save a Smash trailer for their showcase happening right before the invitational on the 12th of June (having Splatoon 2 tournament on the 11th in that case), but I'd imagine that would really call it close.

I think both ARMS and Splatoon 2 had their own Direct's last year before E3 (in, like, April & May?), and both held tournaments at said E3, so there's a chance for a similar scenario happening here with Smash.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

I’d say it’s more likely we get the direct towards the middle/end of May. I think they want to try and avoid doing a big direct earlier in May or in late April as it would coincide with other big news (big movies that will garner a lot of attention such as Infinity War.)

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

We will get the Smash name (and probably a Direct at that) soon, unless Nintendo wants to go with:


"It's time for the tournament! Welcome to the E3 invitational of SUPER SMAAASSSSHH BROTHHEERRRSSSS (working title)!"

 

[Tonydrake]

I was already expecting a Smash Direct by April or May, but now with the tournament news I'm 100 % sure we'll have a lot of info before E3

The Smash Direct seems very likely now

 

[Michele]

I do not know if we can trust the information about the Smash Direct, I mean I know there is tournament news but we have not got a leak on the next Nintendo Direct. And even if it were leaked there is little chance that it might not be mentioned.

 

[ObeseCity]

Completely off-topic here, but how do you get those "SSB5" stamps for characters you want in?

 

[G-Unit]

Either way, I'm pretty sure Bakugan is dead now so I really doubt the one on the right even ignoring how she wasn't a video game character.

A Bakugan reboot was announced a couple years ago, so I think putting Runo in would help promote the future Bakugan reboot, and even help SSB players learn about her and the series. Though she was absent from the 3rd season of the Bakugan anime, I think Runo is a great choice since it's a fan favorite among many Bakugan fans.

 

[DBPirate]

I'm surprised all of you are so confident that a Smash Direct will be coming soon. Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right. I just feel Nintendo can be very unpredictable with these kinds of things.

 

[Curious Villager]

Completely off-topic here, but how do you get those "SSB5" stamps for characters you want in?

The Smash Switch signature thread can be found here: https://smashboards.com/threads/smash-switchs-signature-icons-thread.453386/


I guess we could potentially see a Smash Direct beforehand, at least to minimize the potential of any leaks, but I'm not sure.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

I do not know if we can trust the information about the Smash Direct, I mean I know there is tournament news but we have not got a leak on the next Nintendo Direct. And even if it were leaked there is little chance that it might not be mentioned.

Directs tend to be leaked closer to the date.

Completely off-topic here, but how do you get those "SSB5" stamps for characters you want in?

There's a signature thread pinned in the forum. Check that out and then click your username at the top right and click Signature. Paste the image(s). Bingo Bango Bongo baby.

A Bakugan reboot was announced a couple years ago, so I think putting Runo in would help promote the future Bakugan reboot, and even help SSB players learn about her and the series. Though she was absent from the 3rd season of the Bakugan anime, I think Runo is a great choice since it's a fan favorite among many Bakugan fans.

Bakugon, Digimon, all we're missing now is YuGiOh and the quadfecta is complete.

And Chaotic, and Monsuno?

 

[mario123007]

But for real, I feel like Ice Climbers and Rosalina & Luma would be an ironic pairing given people commonly complained the latter replaced the former and was evidence that two models in 8 player smash could work.

It'd also be cool if Wolf and Jigglypuff make it in the story this time and are a pair as a nod to their absence last time

Indeed, so I don't think any one would argue that Rosaluma and Ice Climber will both return. Since I like both characters.

However even to this day I still think Bowser Jr+ Koopalings is still a bit of waste when you realized Mario series has the most characters... I use to dislike Duck Hunt in Smash as well but now he is one my fav.

Seems like that Smash 5 is going to be more of a sequal than a port..

It will interesting who will be invited in this tournment.

The question is....Since it is a tournament, will Reggie and Nintendo focused on the casuals ruleset or the competitive ruleset since the competitive Smash community is huge.
I wonder if items will be entered or removed in that tournament or something.
New characters will be very interesting...

I think it is a safe bet that the characters in the silhouette and the Inklings will be playable in the tournament.

 

[Phaazoid]

Bakugon, Digimon, all we're missing now is YuGiOh and the quadfecta is complete.

Don't forget Pokemon! Wouldn't it be crazy if that series finally got repped in smash? I know it's a longshot, but they'd really bring over a lot of fans.

 

[StrangeMann]

I actually miss pic of the day, I wish Sakurai returned the practice because it was so nice receiving new information daily.

 

[papagenos]

It would be really cool if the winner of the invitational got to pick a character to be made for the new game, that’d be the hypest tournament ever. Obviously it’d have to be someone Nintendo owns and be discussed if it’s doable or what... and also obviously this will never happen but it’d be so cool! Magic the gathering used to let its winners make cards, within reason, and featured their face on the card. Maybe they could make the winner as one of the default Mii faces or something haha it’d just be cool if the prize was immortalized within the game since it isn’t out yet.

 

[G-Unit]

Well, I was going to predict the Inklings being an assist trophy.

 

[Ivander]

But I literally never said that though. I don't think Simon is very likely, but that wouldn't have been the reason I gave. And for what it's worth I think Simon would be an awesome addition.

So how come he said you mentioned that Simon's last appearance was 2008? Considering his release in Harmony of Despair was 2011, Mirror of Fate was in 2013 and than technically you have his appearance in Super Bomberman R in 2017. Last time I checked, that's a bit more than 2008(even if you don't count Bomberman).

 

[Kotor]

You know, looking at all these fan made rosters, and the newcomer lists made by fake leakers, what catches my attention with them is how they just list the Inkling as the sole newcomer from Splatoon. Taking into account Splatoon's popularity (especially Japan's love for it), I could see Splatoon getting away with having two characters in Smash Switch. The precedent of a franchise debuting with more than 1 character already exist with Mario, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and technically the Mii Fighters. As for who the second one could be? I could see either the Squid Sisters, or if time is not on their side, an Octoling that functions as an Inkling clone.

 

[G-Unit]

Well, all of the Castlevania characters are non-recurring, so Alucard, Dracula and Death are your best bets.

 

[ObeseCity]

What's all this about a Smash Direct leak?

 

[Originality]

What's all this about a Smash Direct leak?

No leak, we're all just assuming there'll be one before e3 because of the tournament they're having there.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Well, all of the Castlevania characters are non-recurring, so Alucard, Dracula and Death are your best bets.

Simon Belmont is the best bet of Castlevania.

 

[CannonStreak]

No leak, we're all just assuming there'll be one before e3 because of the tournament they're having there.

What tournament are you talking about?

 

[Opossum]

So how come he said you mentioned that Simon's last appearance was 2008? Considering his release in Harmony of Despair was 2011, Mirror of Fate was in 2013 and than technically you have his appearance in Super Bomberman R in 2017. Last time I checked, that's a bit more than 2008(even if you don't count Bomberman).

That's why I think he's confusing me for someone else, haha. I never said any of that.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Daily reminder that Impa is the best possible Zelda newcomer

 

[GolisoPower]

What tournament are you talking about?

The recently announced Invitational coming to E3 this year.

 

[Originality]

What tournament are you talking about?

Nintendo Versus (@NintendoVS) Tweeted:
The Super #SmashBros Invitational 2018 and #Splatoon2 World Championship 2018 tournaments will take place in Los Angeles the week of #E32018! Watch the competition on Nintendo’s Twitch & YouTube channels when the tournaments are live-streamed 6/11 & 6/12. https://t.co/wz1pIT8ndU https://t.co/3itUOH8rgH https://twitter.com/NintendoVS/status/976790642314522624?s=17

 

[CannonStreak]

The recently announced Invitational coming to E3 this year.

It’s for Smash Bros, right?

EDIT: Never mind.

 

[DJ3DS]

It would be really cool if the winner of the invitational got to pick a character to be made for the new game, that’d be the hypest tournament ever. Obviously it’d have to be someone Nintendo owns and be discussed if it’s doable or what... and also obviously this will never happen but it’d be so cool! Magic the gathering used to let its winners make cards, within reason, and featured their face on the card. Maybe they could make the winner as one of the default Mii faces or something haha it’d just be cool if the prize was immortalized within the game since it isn’t out yet.

I'd hate this. There are so many fans of the game that I don't want the winner of an invitational tournament to hold that much sway.

Having the winner as a default Mii face is alright though.

 

[Cosmic77]

The tournament alone should make this another winning year for Nintendo at E3. Heck, Pokémon and Metroid being discussed too would just blow Sony and Microsoft out of the water.


So how often do you expect characters to be revealed? Since this game is shaping up to release somewhere in the Holiday 2018 area, I'm expecting newcomers to be revealed about every month following E3, and E3 itself to reveal at least 2-4 newcomers.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

Nintendo has almost a surefire victory at E3.

Unless Half Life 3 is announced. That's the only way they *might* lose.

The tournament alone should make this another winning year for Nintendo at E3. Heck, Pokémon and Metroid being discussed too would just blow Sony and Microsoft out of the water.


So how often do you expect characters to be revealed? Since this game is shaping up to release somewhere in the Holiday 2018 area, I'm expecting newcomers to be revealed about every month following E3, and E3 itself to reveal at least 2-4 newcomers.

To be honest, I'm not a fan of them announcing literally everything that will be in the game so early. Yes, the trailers were hype and all, but you basically knew everything about the game before it came out.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

You know, looking at all these fan made rosters, and the newcomer lists made by fake leakers, what catches my attention with them is how they just list the Inkling as the sole newcomer from Splatoon. Taking into account Splatoon's popularity (especially Japan's love for it), I could see Splatoon getting away with having two characters in Smash Switch. The precedent of a franchise debuting with more than 1 character already exist with Mario, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and technically the Mii Fighters. As for who the second one could be? I could see either the Squid Sisters, or if time is not on their side, an Octoling that functions as an Inkling clone.

To be fair, when the Mario/Pokemon series debuted in Smash they were already massive franchises with many characters to choose from. Fire Emblem a little less so, but still big, and Roy was a last minute clone.

Not going to deny Splatoon's popularity, but as a newer franchise with two games, I'd be really surprised if they got more than the boy/girl Inkling skins for a single character.

 

[Wyoming]

Daily reminder that Impa is the best possible Zelda newcomer

That's a funny way of spelling Lana

 

[SlickWylde]

This is 100% speculation and just based off a gut feeling, but this Smash Bros invitational makes me even more confident that this is going to be more like a port.

 

[Wyoming]

If it is a port my hype will dwindle so I hope not

I want new assets, yo

 

[Originality]

To be honest, I'm not a fan of them announcing literally everything that will be in the game so early. Yes, the trailers were hype and all, but you basically knew everything about the game before it came out.

I understand spoilers and such, but I feel like the best way to learn about new characters and stuff is from Nintendo themselves in their directs, not through loading up the game the first time. They'll introduce the characters in the way they see most fit.
Plus I would much rather know everything about the game before I buy it, especially if there isn't even a story to be spoiled.

 

[papagenos]

This is 100% speculation and just based off a gut feeling, but this Smash Bros invitational makes me even more confident that this is going to be more like a port.

Agreed. I think it’s pointless arguing port vs new though. Most likely it’s a “you’re both right” situation where they are calling it a new game because they are adding so much/changing a few things completely but that it basically plays with the smash4 engine and uses tons of assets from it.