Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[IMainKingKRool]

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And the people on team real probably consider a hot dog to be a sandwich

it's meat between bread goddangit what else am i supposed to call it

 

[Metal Shop X]

Alright I just woke up for a sec', what happened here? Is The Grinch Leak more or less alive? Or did I miss something huge?

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

On Reddit where I believe it was originally posted, it's explained. It seems like London Comic Con is promoting The Grinch movie on their guidebooks and badges and whatnot. It seems to just be a hilarious coincidence. https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9rntyw/spotted_a_certain_someone_at_nintendos_london/

This still seems so...out there.

 

[Saelind Genesis]

Just gonna throw my hat in the ring:
I hate Incineroar’s design, and I have ever since it got leaked in the first place. I genuinely think it’s one of the ugliest Pokémon in recent memory, and an extremely disappointing place for Litten to end up in, considering I like both it and Torracat. I also don’t want it in Smash because it feels like a random choice; Incineroar is not iconic like the Gen 1 Pokémon or all that heavily marketed like Lucario and Greninja. Even among the Pokémon it would feel out of place imo

That said, I’ll try my best to be happy for fans of Incineroar when it gets revealed. Plenty of people didn’t like it when Isabelle was announced, so I know how it feels when people kick and tear at the character you were most excited for.

Yeah, I don't go that far. I don't hate him for Pokémon. He's fine, even though I think Litten is better. I just think it's a very unimaginative and uninspired choice for Smash, a fighting* game.

*DON'T EVEN START OKAY, YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

 

[TheKnight]

it's meat between bread goddangit what else am i supposed to call it

A hot dog.

 

[Flyboy]

Who would be Hulk Hogan?

Shadow the Hedgehog because they have the same final smash

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Alright I just woke up for a sec', what happened here? Is The Grinch Leak more or less alive? Or did I miss something huge?

Still alive and debating

 

[Garteam]

I bet you the people on team fake put the milk in the bowl before the cereal.

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And the people on team real probably consider a hot dog to be a sandwich

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Look man, if it's a food item that has its contents contained in bread, then its a sandwich.

 

[KMDP]

Damm Etika wasn't faking he actually had a mental breakdown and is in a mental hospital now.

I feel so bad for him his whole channel and source of income are now gone out of the window and now we probably won't see his reactions of the final characters.

I thought he had had a mental breakdown.

Some might think "over not being allowed to say the N word on Twitter?" And I say, "Yes." it was probably building for some time, and this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Hope Etika gets back on his feet.

We just want to save everyone from a crushing disappointment.

I can handle a little disappointment, thanks.

I don't need "saving".

 

[Deleted member]

Both of these are Heresy. That's why Team HHhhhmmm is the best.

I bet you guys consider a hot dog to be a taco and have debates on whether cereal is a soup or a stew.

 

[Deleted member]

Let people like who they like. Simple as that. There really isn't a need to insult others over character preference.

 

[AugustusB]

Shadow the Hedgehog because they have the same final smash

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I laughed way to hard at this. Holy ****!!!

 

[FreeFox]

Nice text. Welcome to CrazyBoards.

Welcome to the discussion! Posting a bunch of immediate assumptions about things is pretty much how Smash speculation goes. And you're certainly right that this is a different situation than the ESRB leak. A lot of people also are looking to be definitively on team "real" or "fake" when it's perfectly fine to be on the fence, because no one really knows anything for sure anyways.

Thanks for the warm welcome!

As a group this fórum can do a lot more when it is not trying to win.

 

[Darkurai]

Are the two pics of the same leaked banner?

Yes, but that's not quite what he's getting at.

I apologize if I sound condescending, I just wanna walk this through in detail to make sure I cover all the bases.

A big point of contention with some people - especially ArtsyOmni - is that the image of the empty background in the Grinch Leak doesn't match an actual official image of the empty background we saw at E3. Many people on Team Fake use this as evidence against the leak. Some people on Team Real have argued that the discrepancies are caused due to the photo we've seen of the leak being very low quality since it's a screencap of a video on Snapchat. An important detail here is that we have two photos: One photo has the empty background, and the other photo has all the characters in front of the background.

If the discrepancies in the image were caused by low picture quality, then we wouldn't see the exact same discrepancies between those two photos. However, the same discrepancies between the two photos are identical, meaning they cannot be caused by poor image quality. They have to be part of the actual background image in the leak.

 

[The DanMan051]

I bet you guys consider a hot dog to be a taco and have debates on whether cereal is a soup or a stew.

pasta is an illogical creation because it's just bread that's been cut up and has to be eaten with a fork

 

[TheKnight]

This still seems so...out there.

Well, it's not like Nintendo has any direct connection to The Grinch movie. It just happened to be having promotional material printed wherever the Smash leak took place. Any further Grinch material loosely related is just funny to see. It shouldn't really mean anything.

 

[Luigi The President]

Yes, but that's not quite what he's getting at.

I apologize if I sound condescending, I just wanna walk this through in detail to make sure I cover all the bases.

A big point of contention with some people - especially ArtsyOmni - is that the image of the empty background in the Grinch Leak doesn't match an actual official image of the empty background we saw at E3. Many people on Team Fake use this as evidence against the leak. Some people on Team Real have argued that the discrepancies are caused due to the photo we've seen of the leak being very low quality since it's a screencap of a video on Snapchat. An important detail here is that we have two photos: One photo has the empty background, and the other photo has all the characters in front of the background.

If the discrepancies in the image were caused by low picture quality, then we wouldn't see the exact same discrepancies between those two photos. However, the same discrepancies between the two photos are identical, meaning they cannot be caused by poor image quality. They have to be part of the actual background image in the leak.

No I need condescending genuinely lol I'm not bright enough to get the more technical picture parts

I think I'm grasping it. I'm gonna classify this as a point for team fake then.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

CON-FIRMED!
https://twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1055945086364803074

 

[monadoboy]

Is it his design? He isn't particularly bad looking. He looks fine.

I really disagree with this. He looks godawful, and it's mostly the hands. Those damn tiny palms with humongous sausage fingers have some uncanny valley **** going on with them. They look like they were made by your average 10 year old. Not to mention his tiny legs makes him look like those dudebros everyone loves to make fun for skipping leg day.

**** like the Trubbish and Vanillite lines may look lame, but they don't come close to the sheer uncomfortable feeling I get when looking at those bloody malformed hands from hell. They look extremely amateurish and awkward.

 

[Luigi The President]

CON-FIRMED!
https://twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1055945086364803074

Banjo part is false

 

[Garteam]

Damm Etika wasn't faking he actually had a mental breakdown and is in a mental hospital now.

I feel so bad for him his whole channel and source of income are now gone out of the window and now we probably won't see his reactions of the final characters.

I think Etika's large enough to get his channel and twitter back, especially given his mental state when he made the decisions that led to their termination.

If not, I'm fairly confident he could start up different handles and grow back to his previous size in a relatively short period of time.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

So how's all of my fellow follews doing this fine evening in thy general discussion thread about thee Smasharoo leaks?

 

[Nekoo]

No I need condescending genuinely lol I'm not bright enough to get the more technical picture parts

I think I'm grasping it. I'm gonna classify this as a point for team fake then.

Can be a point for both.

Either Fake and leaker Genuinely had to redo the background with a paintover.
Either real and there is tons of modifications for no real Apparent reasons.

 

[Luigi The President]

Can be a point for both.

Either Fake and leaker Genuinely had to redo the background with a paintover.
Either real and there is tons of modifications for no real Apparent reasons.

I mean...which sounds more likely to you Nek

 

[The_Naraotor]

UpROAR? Pun intentional or unintentional?

I admit it was unintentional but now it make me laugh a good chuckle worth of the great knuckles XD

 

[AugustusB]

Banjo part is false

False because Nintendo is not a partner.

BUT the trademark was renewed on that date.

 

[RyuhoFox]

It really didn't.
They were on equal footing.

Honestly considering how Smash tends to use pokemon being pushed in the anime Incineroar is the one that made more sense imo.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

CON-FIRMED!
https://twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1055945086364803074

Doesn't EXACTLY confirm, but it can help it a tiny bit.

 

[Luigi The President]

False because Nintendo is not a partner.

BUT the trademark was renewed on that date.

Nuts & Bolts came out November 11th, 2008
Been almost 10 years

 

[ExitWound]

CON-FIRMED!
https://twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1055945086364803074

gg

 

[ZephyrZ]

Oof I really need to take a break from this thread, but yet I keep coming back to it. Trying to look away from it is like trying to look away from a train wreck.

It's especially rough being on "team fake" right now because because of the constant "photoshopped Little Mac" posts, as if I'm some hater who wants the leak to be fake and is grasping at straws to prove it. I think that roster would be awesome and have no personal vendetta against any characters in it, nor do I have any particular wants that I'm over attached to that are missing form the leak. I know most people on "team real" aren't actually like that and I'm not going to throw out any particular accusations, but there's still enough of them who are that it's just exhausting for me to be here.

I'm going to try to stop posting here for a little bit to try and cool off, but first I want to say that I still think the Smash community can still be great at times. I would have left the community behind a long time ago if I didn't actually like it. Just remember that once Ultimate actually releases, it won't matter who was right or who was wrong.

I don't give myself an hour. I'll probably be back real fast.

 

[Nekoo]

I mean...which sounds more likely to you Nek

First one. Especially if it looks like that all of the difference are at places where the Characters were hiding the background.

 

[Confirmation]

Can be a point for both.

Either Fake and leaker Genuinely had to redo the background with a paintover.
Either real and there is tons of modifications for no real Apparent reasons.

To be fair, we already have changes for no reason (ie Squirtle's, Snake's shadows among official versions)

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Nuts & Bolts came out November 11th, 2008
Been almost 10 years

Okay, and?

 

[Metal Shop X]

Alright, nobody can't tell for sure about the Grinch as always.

Time for me to sleep again.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Okay, how about we don't?

 

[Llort A. Ton]

In genral I was never REALLY into pokemon. I was always more a Mario kid because I just found Pokemon boring. Like, my cousins and little brother ate it all up, but when I played Pokemon Yellow at age 5/6 my first thought was "why is there so much reading???", as opposed to Mario, where I could just pop in Mario Land 2 (aka the best 2D Mario) and have a blast right away. The anime didnt help either, since back then I thought the show was too choppy/poorly animated for my liking. There were a couple years where I got pretty interested in it, I played Soul Silver and X all the way through and enjoyed them quite a bit, but after that I kinda stopped caring again. So, they could put in literally any of the gen 7 pokemon and I wouldnt flinch. I like Inceneroar a teeny bit more than Decidueye, but dont partucularly want either. Though, I kinda want Buzzswile, since hes a mosquito with a 6 pack, and my 300 iq brain determines that to be funny.

Tldr I guess im Team 50/50 for spicy garfield.

 

[SigmaMewtwo]

So I just completed Rondo of Blood at 100%, and I've got to say, I can say that in terms of a "Classic" Castlevania game, I do prefer it over Super Castlevania IV.

The music is much, much more engaging, the ability to play as two characters (Richter and Maria) is really cool, and the game's difficulty feels just right in RoB, where it felt a bit unbalanced in SCIV. I do feel that Simon's control of the Vampire Killer is better though; I much preferred being able to whip in all 8 directions, and using it as a grappling hook is an excellent idea, plus I greatly missed being able to do this in RoB:

Spoiler: Having fun with the Vampire Killer

Even though I prefer RoB now, I did still enjoy my time with SCIV when I played it nearly two months ago, and both are really solid games. If you guys have the chance to play either or both of these games, give them a shot; you might find that you'll enjoy them as well. I'm going to be starting Symphony of the Night next, and that should be a treat from everything I've heard.

Playing through both RoB and SCIV have given me a huge appreciation for what both Simon and Richter can do in Smash, so I'm really looking forward to checking them both out when Ultimate releases!

To keep it Smash-related, there is one song I heard in particular while playing RoB today that I wish was making it into Ultimate, as it really impressed me: Opus 13. Such a groovy song, I could really see myself battling to this track while at Dracula's Castle. I'd gladly take it in its original form, but I think a slightly harder take on it could work as well. Definitely one I'd want if additional DLC songs are a thing.

Of course, I am still keeping an eye on all the discussion surrounding the leak-talk, it's just really tough to do as this page moves at breakneck speed for me. Still reserving judgment for official confirmation, as I'm still 50/50 at this time (tempering my expectations helps to keep me calm and level-headed), but it is quite interesting how things have developed over the past 48 hours or so. Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get our direct announcement sometime next week.

 

[Luigi The President]

First one. Especially if it looks like that all of the difference are at places where the Characters were hiding the background.

Exactly
That's why it's for fake

Okay, and?

...and that's when you renew trademarks lol, every 10 years

 

[Nekoo]

Okay, and?

Copyright need to be renewed every 10 year.