Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[MamaLuigi123456]

First image has been thoroughly debunked, as it's from the bus that's using an older/pre-Isabelle version of the banner. The rest are what's being discussed.

Though I'd remind people that it's not the first time there's been an item without a character from that series: https://www.ssbwiki.com/Lip's_Stick

Sure but don't you find it at least a LITTLE bit strange that they would bring in a new Golden Sun item and not Isaac's AT from Brawl?

 

[Guynamednelson]

The Grinch once stole plants, now he gives them.

 

[Snorkel the dolphin]

What do you think Banjo & Kazooie's final smash will be?

 

[KMDP]

Better image of the item sprout...
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Does not look like Super Paper Mario or Ever Oasis. What could this mean??

That super looks like a Growth Sprout from Golden Sun. Like, besides the aura, it's practically 1:1.

This Growth item thing is the first thing I've seen that actually kind of ticks me closer to believing this whole leak. But only a little bit. It at least makes it possible that regardless if the leak is fake or real that Isaac might be in (Unless this is going to be a Lip's Stick thing where an item from the series makes it but not the Newcomer). I'm still at a more neutral stance and think this may at least be partially true.

But it's at the very least something that's in favor of this leak. So thumbs up on spotting this.

The difference between this and Lip's Stick is that, in Golden Sun, Growth doesn't have an item related to it (there are Psynergy-bestowing items in Golden Sun, though, like the Douse Drop, Force Gem and Cyclone Chip).

 

[Thirdkoopa]

i... don't even know what to think anymore. All I can say is that I am 99% certain it's from no other game, so, the only debunker for it not being a Golden Sun item is it being an OG item.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Hey not calling anyone out but earlier I made a joke and made sure to state I was joking so no confusion would happen. Someone replied to me with something along the lines of "don't worry about letting us know you are joking"

Now I make a joke WITHOUT stating I'm joking and people think I'm being serious even though I made a similar joke earlier.

What gives SmashBoards, should I let you know or not? Jeez, just signed up today and you guys are already giving me a headache.

Friendly pro tip: use the icon in your posts, it's a life-saver.

 

[MainJPW]

Hey guys lets count how many times someone posts this same exact thing im at 2

Can’t even be bothered to skim the page they’re on.

 

[Pyra]

Bro what is happening lol did we actually just possibly get a Golden Sun item

Actually yeah. I'm with Thirdkoopa
It's either a Smash original item or GS as far as I'm concerned

Though if it was a Smash original item, it's probably just the health pick-up version of the healing field. In the same class as the heart, the tomato, etc.

 

[Bladeviper]

if that is growth as an item, and it does what it does in gs outside of battle and makes a ladder, it makes so much more sense they added a way to attack on ladders cause the number of stages to do that on is like what 3 or 4 i think maybe

 

[Luigi The President]

Hey not calling anyone out but earlier I made a joke and made sure to state I was joking so no confusion would happen. Someone replied to me with something along the lines of "don't worry about letting us know you are joking"

Now I make a joke WITHOUT stating I'm joking and people think I'm being serious even though I made a similar joke earlier.

What gives SmashBoards, should I let you know or not? Jeez, just signed up today and you guys are already giving me a headache.

You can include me in this if you're going to vaguely post about me and act like I'm the person who told you this, when in fact there's been countless people who HAVE believed the Chorus Kids render disproves this and I have never seen you post before.

I don't intend to be rude at all, I really don't. Sorry for a harsh welcome to the site as well. But please don't do this my friend.

 

[Untouch]

Sure but don't you find it at least a LITTLE bit strange that they would bring in a new Golden Sun item and not Isaac's AT from Brawl?

Just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean he isn't there.

 

[Weeman]

I can't believe it was fake

 

[Gameboi834]

It's confirmed.

I'm about 99% sure of it.

I think you have a loose grasp on what the word "confirmed" means.

 

[Llort A. Ton]

Playing devils advocate here- why would growth be both an item AND a move for Isaac(thats wjat hes doing on the mural art right?) Never played GS, so please gimme a rundown on what could be different/why its justified

 

[Luigi The President]

Actually yeah. I'm with Thirdkoopa
It's either a Smash original item or GS as far as I'm concerned

Though if it was a Smash original item, it's probably just the health pick-up version of the healing field. In the same class as the heart, the tomato, etc.

What's fascinating is that it is identical to the Growth icon but also resembles the Healing Field icon

 

[P1ZZ4CHU]

>Golden Sun item
>Still no Isaac AT

hmmmmm
HMMMMMMM

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I think you have a loose grasp on what the word "confirmed" means.

i'm 99% certain it's confirmed to be a golden sun or OG item

that doesn't mean isaac is in.

(I don't want to call 100% just yet but consider this close)

 

[Untouch]

The healing field is the only pre august direct item we haven't been shown on the blog yet.

 

[Saelind Genesis]

One of these series doesn't have a newcomer who has been heavily requested throughout over a decade of Smash.
Reminder is genuinely appreciated but it's very obvious they're not the same.


Hold your horses buddy we don't even know what it is yet

So you're basically saying that Isaac is in 100% sure?

 

[Swaggy-G]

The healing field is the only pre august direct item we haven't been shown on the blog yet.

It's CLEARLY not the healing field.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Even if the Grinch leak is fake, I will at least thank it for giving my bois some publicity...

 

[ThatOneAnon]

Part of me hopes the leak is fake actually because I honestly do not believe this community deserves good things anymore.

 

[Luigi The President]

So you're basically saying that Isaac is in 100% sure?

Yes! Of course. Isaac's in boys.
..../s

 

[Mrplutoguy112]

Let’s say Square had this on there Twitter

Although not sure if fans would believe it at first until the direct came for information. Cause Square does this to fans.

 

[Ura]

Part of me hopes the leak is fake actually because I honestly do not believe this community deserves good things anymore.

Don't be one of those people man.

 

[ItsZant]

So Isaac is using growth in the mural...

The new item we see here is the item for growth....

These coincidences are adding up man...

 

[P1ZZ4CHU]

Part of me hopes the leak is fake actually because I honestly do not believe this community deserves good things anymore.

"blah blah pay attention to me"

 

[KMDP]

I can't believe it was fake

What's fake?

Actually yeah. I'm with Thirdkoopa
It's either a Smash original item or GS as far as I'm concerned

Though if it was a Smash original item, it's probably just the health pick-up version of the healing field. In the same class as the heart, the tomato, etc.

An item that bestows a temporary Regen effect would be pretty neat.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

>Golden Sun item
>Still no Isaac AT

hmmmmm
HMMMMMMM

or anything else GS for that matter.

Even if the Grinch leak is fake, I will at least thank it for giving my bois some publicity...

RHYTHM HEAVEN
IS BEST FRANCHISE

 

[Luigi The President]

Part of me hopes the leak is fake actually because I honestly do not believe this community deserves good things anymore.

Remember when you felt physically ill over the box theory possibly being true? And we had to get you to take a break?
I just wanted you to remember

 

[larlargaming]

im back, whats this talk about golden sun and an item ??

 

[Pyra]

What's fascinating is that it is identical to the Growth icon but also resembles the Healing Field icon

I'm fairly certain that's an unfortunate coincidence of circumstance.

To me, because the imagery is so similar, I would be lead to believe they would do a similar thing. The healing field and this plant bud.

However, unfortunately, if the Growth psynergy were to be an item, it would baaaasically look exactly the same, right?

 

[N3ON]

Playing devils advocate here- why would growth be both an item AND a move for Isaac(thats wjat hes doing on the mural art right?) Never played GS, so please gimme a rundown on what could be different/why its justified

There's also different "levels" of Growth, and sometimes it's used as a utility, similar to a ladder. So there'd be more than one way to implement it.

 

[Ura]

So Isaac is using growth in the mural...

The new item we see here is the item for growth....

These coincidences are adding up man...

Though I wonder if the item is like the Banana Peel from Smash 4 where it's both an item and a move for Diddy.

 

[Untouch]

The healing field is an original item...
They may have changed the look of it, which would also explain why they haven't had a blog post if they wanted to show it off in the direct (for whatever reason).

 

[Nekoo]

Honestly I would love some Golden Sun representation...
But weirdly...I was seeing more Growth into Isaac's Moveset than item-

 

[Luigi The President]

I'm fairly certain that's an unfortunate coincidence of circumstance.

To me, because the imagery is so similar, I would be lead to believe they would do a similar thing. The healing field and this plant bud.

However, unfortunately, if the Growth psynergy were to be an item, it would baaaasically look exactly the same, right?

One would think they'd point out if the healing field had such a unique property though

 

[Swaggy-G]

Here's footage of the healing field. Clearly not the same thing. Everyone should accept that this is a new item at this point.
EDIT: It's at 18:12

 

[Luigifan18]

Can’t even be bothered to skim the page they’re on.

Story of my life...

 

[Pyra]

Damn it my sides lmfao