Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[SuperNintendoKid]

we're getting closer to this being real >:3

 

[Mutsukki]

The healing field is an original item...
They may have changed the look of it, which would also explain why they haven't had a blog post if they wanted to show it off in the direct (for whatever reason).

No, highly doubt it. It was in the E3 demo too https://youtu.be/qpjFpt-7k_Y?t=1077

 

[Dee Dude]

its a screen from the video nintendo just put up where the brought smash to a college football game

Got a ? (Hey, I’ll do anything for new footage)

What do you think Banjo & Kazooie's final smash will be?

Jinjonator no doubt, unless there’s the Sonic/Pikachu/Pac-Man route of a sped up golden feather invincibility.

 

[Mecakoto]

For the item in game vs in the banner argument: Please remember there is a Mr. Saturn in the banner as well. There is already a precedent for this sort of occurrence.

 

[Luigi The President]

Damn it my sides lmfao

That point had me on the ropes but then N3ON came in LMAO

For the item in game vs in the banner argument: Please remember there is a Mr. Saturn in the banner as well. There is already a precedent for this sort of occurrence.

Keep up the good posts Shaq I appreciate you

 

[Bladeviper]

Playing devils advocate here- why would growth be both an item AND a move for Isaac(thats wjat hes doing on the mural art right?) Never played GS, so please gimme a rundown on what could be different/why its justified

issac doenst learn growth naturally, he could be using quake to raise the ground or something else. also the growth item could make a ladder and if they gave it to issac as a move it would function as an attack in stead, which plays into how psenergy has different uses in and out of battle in gs

 

[alemerltoucanet]

I swear, this thread moves faster than the speed of sound. I like can't even keep up with what's going on. XD

 

[Llort A. Ton]

There's also different "levels" of Growth, and sometimes it's used as a utility, similar to a ladder. So there'd be more than one way to implement it.

Sounds neat. I hope this a sign for some very cool things (namely our new forbidden 7) to come!

 

[IcyBrawler]

Friendly pro tip: use the icon in your posts, it's a life-saver.

Noted!

You can include me in this if you're going to vaguely post about me and act like I'm the person who told you this, when in fact there's been countless people who HAVE believed the Chorus Kids render disproves this and I have never seen you post before.

I don't intend to be rude at all, I really don't. Sorry for a harsh welcome to the site as well. But please don't do this my friend.

Relax. I just thought the situation was funny. Like I said I wasn't trying to call anyone out.

 

[Chrono.]

EDIT: DISREGARD THIS POST

I think the "new item" is just Healing Field.

Let me explain where I'm coming from. Look at the HF item and how it looks.

It looks like a seed with the plant sprouting icon looking extremely alike to the item we just saw.

My theory is that once you activate HF, the seed disappears and the plant sprouts on the arena, which would look like what we see here.

 

[Pyra]

One would think they'd point out if the healing field had such a unique property though

I'm literally not saying they're the same item

I agree with everyone else that it's a new item.

You're misunderstanding me.

I'm saying it's possible the two are related items. The healing field is a throwable/deployable item that heals people standing in it, no? I'm saying it's possible that this bubble-bud (I'm calling it that now) is the pick up, exclusive version of the item that provides similar effects exclusively for the person who picked it up, like a regen version of the maxim tomato.

 

[Iridium]

Checked the GS Wiki's page on Growth, and I'm actually convinced that the item we saw there could be the same thing. Never have I wanted to see Sakurai just reveal Isaac so quickly right now.

Well, I hope that's what it is.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I swear, this thread moves faster than the speed of sound. I like can't even keep up with what's going on. XD

tl;dr: We have a new item confirmed. It's either an Original Smash Item or it's Golden Sun.

 

[Luigi The President]

Noted!


Relax. I just thought the situation was funny. Like I said I wasn't trying to call anyone out.

You got it. Welcome to the site. Sorry; high tensions in this thread is all. Take care

 

[Deleted member]

>Golden Sun item
>Still no Isaac AT

hmmmmm
HMMMMMMM

THE PLOT T H I C C E N S

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

I'm just gonna quietly post this here and leave it at that... taking a small break from arguing

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[CrunchyCHEEZIT]

Wait is that sprout a GS item? And if so, where did the pic come from?

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1055519359622410241?s=09
at around 0:27, theres a very short clip of ness vs falcon on an f-zero stage, and on the rightmost "platform" you can see an item that resembles a green sphere with a sprout inside, which is apparently a golden sun item.

and before any of you keep saying it, no, it is NOT the healing field. the healing field bud itself is white, and would have no reason to be active since the item is just lying on the ground away from the fight.

so... I think your boy is in.

 

[SushiRoll]

I mean, there was a growth item in GS, the bramble seed. But then why use the growth symbol instead of the bramble seed symbol?

 

[Weeman]

What's fake?

My ability to believe this leak is fake.

 

[Luigi The President]

I'm literally not saying they're the same item

I agree with everyone else that it's a new item.

You're misunderstanding me.

I'm saying it's possible the two are related items. The healing field is a throwable/deployable item that heals people standing in it, no? I'm saying it's possible that this bubble-bud (I'm calling it that now) is the pick up, exclusive version of the item that provides similar effects exclusively for the person who picked it up, like a regen version of the maxim tomato.

Pls be gentle TB baby

Are the healing things usually in those sort of bubbles?

 

[Gameboi834]

Just so that people have an easier time knowing what the Healing Field looks like:

 

[Untouch]

No, highly doubt it. It was in the E3 demo too https://youtu.be/qpjFpt-7k_Y?t=1077

The E3 demo is really outdated, they could have changed it since then.

 

[Splotim]

It's CLEARLY not the healing field.

It does have the sapling that’s on the healing field though. It could be related somehow.

 

[Naiko3232]

This is basically the new item that appeared, it is from Golden Sun:

 

[The DanMan051]

We don't know that they haven't brought back

I think the "new item" is just Healing Field.

Let me explain where I'm coming from. Look at the HF item and how it looks.

It looks like a seed with the plant sprouting icon looking extremely alike to the item we just saw.

My theory is that once you activate HF, the seed disappears and the plant sprouts on the arena, which would look like what we see here.
View attachment 172089

Have we seen it in action at all?

 

[Noipoi]

When Isaac uses growth does it raise his attack and special attack?

 

[SAMation]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoC5NmIB5OD/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=uym8r9j0yads Don’t know if this has been talked about yet, but doesn’t the waterfall behind daisy on this look more like the waterfall in the leak than the one we’re used to?

If it is Growth from GS

And we have Isaac using Growth on this mural

That'd...

That'd certainly be something huge in it's favor.

That makes sense too, the mural already has the Mr. Saturn item being interacted with by Olimar’s pikmin, so Isaac using the growth item wouldn’t be out of place

 

[N3ON]

This is basically the new item that appeared, it is from Golden Sun:

wellthereitis.gif

 

[Luigi The President]

We don't know that they haven't brought back

Have we seen it in action at all?

Yes

Paulie bring up the video

Here's footage of the healing field. Clearly not the same thing. Everyone should accept that this is a new item at this point.
EDIT: It's at 18:12

 

[Diem]

High-stakes high-tension leaks up in here

 

[Chrono.]

Have we seen it in action at all?

I don't think so but I could watch the Item section of the 8.8 Direct to be sure.

EDIT: Apparently I'm wrong

welp

 

[Mutsukki]

I'm literally not saying they're the same item

I agree with everyone else that it's a new item.

You're misunderstanding me.

I'm saying it's possible the two are related items. The healing field is a throwable/deployable item that heals people standing in it, no? I'm saying it's possible that this bubble-bud (I'm calling it that now) is the pick up, exclusive version of the item that provides similar effects exclusively for the person who picked it up, like a regen version of the maxim tomato.

There is actually logic to that. The item, in japanese, is called "Team Recovery Field" and I wouldn't find it very surprising if there was a single version of that item. The leaf motif is almost the same too.

Which leads me to another point: As much as it DOES look like Golden Sun's growth... a leaf is a very generic simbol. Healing Field's leaf also looks a lot like GS'

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

we're getting closer to this being real >:3

Source please

 

[Pyra]

Pls be gentle TB baby

Are the healing things usually in those sort of bubbles?

...Why would they have to be if this is a new item?

It'd be odd to just kinda pluck a sprout of the ground. It would be really hard to notice as an item so the bubble would make it stand out as an item you can pick up.

I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm putting it out there.

 

[Gameboi834]

What if the Healing Field was just a cover-up for Growth so that we didn't know Isaac was in?

 

[Bladeviper]

I mean, there was a growth item in GS, the bramble seed. But then why use the growth symbol instead of the bramble seed symbol?

to show its actually the growth psenergy, i would argue its more iconic to gs than the bramble seed icon

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

I'm just gonna quietly post this here and leave it at that... taking a small break from arguing

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I WILL NEVER TAKE A BREAK FROM ARGUING! NEVER!

Wait, actually this is a good point. This may support leak.

 

[Luigi The President]

...Why would they have to be if this is a new item?

It'd be odd to just kinda pluck a sprout of the ground. It would be really hard to notice as an item so the bubble would make it stand out as an item you can pick up.

I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm putting it out there.

Okay I think I grasp the point now.

Hmmm

IMO it's either your suggestion or a Golden Sun item.
Let us wait...

 

[Dee Dude]

Oh man, this is getting even better and better, there’s no way it’s fake at this point. There’s more evidence than the entire Ultimate soundtrack.
(And if it shockingly is fake, then this is the most impressive wild goose chase in Smash leak history)

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1055519359622410241?s=09
at around 0:27, theres a very short clip of ness vs falcon on an f-zero stage, and on the rightmost "platform" you can see an item that resembles a green sphere with a sprout inside, which is apparently a golden sun item.

and before any of you keep saying it, no, it is NOT the healing field. the healing field bud itself is white, and would have no reason to be active since the item is just lying on the ground away from the fight.

so... I think your boy is in.

Thanks but he’s not lol, never played Golden Sun. I’m more of a Banjo/Shadow guy. I just wanted to see if there’s more validity to this.

 

[Naiko3232]

We don't know that they haven't brought back

Have we seen it in action at all?

18:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS-efSbJVIQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1092
it looks nothing at all like the one here