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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Me waiting for a new Final Fantasy track to be uploaded which will never come....

I get the music staff likes castlevania music but seriously, did KONAMI pay big money to get all that music in there or something? 31 new tracks...or something like that.
 

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Two different bundles, box shapes, designs, etc. That’s what the big deal is. *shrug* not sure what the difficulty here is
I initially just asked why that box was the wrong one. I wasn't trying to refute box theory (though I still don't believe in it). Don't group me with the haters.
 
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You realize it'll go into shipping much before that though, right? Possibly even like a month in advance.
We're going to have a Direct by November 8th according to credible rumors.


That's not an issue at that point, since the next Direct will be the last one.
 

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You realize it'll go into shipping much before that though, right? Possibly even like a month in advance.
It probably will, which is one of the main reasons everyone’s positive the direct has to be very soon or else everything’s gonna leak all over the place
 

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Jeez I'd love the box theory to be wrong as much of the next guy but some of the attempts to debunk it are so desperate that it's kind of pathetic. I'm not sure if the fact that people are getting so emotionally riled up about the possibility of us only have one more unique newcomer left in a game with over 60 unique fighters is more saddening or frustrating, especially when we'll probably keep getting DLC after release anyway.

Regardless of if the theory is true or not, people need to chill out and relax a little. It's not the end of the fricken world if your most wanted gets in the base or not. People need to get over themselves.
 
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Well, I'm still sticking to my predictions of Incineroar, Elma, and Erdrick being our potential final newcomers.

A shame that Isaac won't be in Ultimate. He would've really been a cool addition.
 

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Speaking of credible, my question was never answered: What makes the people who say November 8th so credible?
Spawn Wave knew the date of the September Direct, and now they're pinning a Direct for between the 5-10th.

November 8th is a Thursday, which is when a lot of Directs falls.
 

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...Yeah, why not?

Is two newcomers left such a big assumption with 44 days left till release?
Considering it will be two newcomers in the last 80 ish days before release, I think that's a big assumption yeah. Also I think most of us think there's another direct left.
 

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Two newcomers left seems reasonable.

If we get the next Direct on November 8th as speculated that means the only character we got revealed for a three month span was Isabelle.

Keep that in mind...
 

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This is coming from someone who is standing firm in there being more than 2 characters left: some of these more radically anti box people are causing me second hand embarrassment
 

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Considering it will be two newcomers in the last 80 ish days before release, I think that's a big assumption yeah. Also I think most of us think there's another direct left.
Exactly, doesn't mean they're gonna bomb us with newcomers.


They still have Spirits Mode, Online, various single player modes, and other misc **** to cover.



We've never had a Direct with more than 2 uniques between Smash 4 and Smash 5, I'm not expecting more than 3-4 newcomers.
 

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Broke: Believing there are more than a few characters.
Woke: Believing Box Theory
Bespoke: Believing there are a few characters (2 or less) left and calling Box Theory fake.
 
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This is coming from someone who is standing firm in there being more than 2 characters left: some of these more radically anti box people are causing me second hand embarrassment
It's the smugness. The overwhelming need to prove people wrong on the internet.
It's hilarious and embarrassing.
 
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Guy doesn't work at Nintendo. He works at Golin, which is a PR firm.
I know, but why do you think that he works for demo unit? That's not media relation thing. Media relation involves working with media, and their purpose of informing public about organisation's missions or their works. Meanwhile, demo unit = games that can be played for short time, in other it is basically demonstration of game with short time.


I think you have demo unit and media relation mixed up.
 

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We're going to have a Direct by November 8th according to credible rumors.


That's not an issue at that point, since the next Direct will be the last one.
If that's when the direct is then yeah I agree that won't be a problem, we'll have to see what happens that week.
 

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Considering it will be two newcomers in the last 80 ish days before release, I think that's a big assumption yeah. Also I think most of us think there's another direct left.
Two newcomers in a Direct sounds pretty plausible to me. Remember the Smash 4 Direct back in, like, April 2014? We got a single newcomer in that one.
 
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Exactly, doesn't mean they're gonna bomb us with newcomers.


They still have Spirits Mode, Online, various single player modes, and other misc **** to cover.



We've never had a Direct with more than 2 uniques between Smash 4 and Smash 5, I'm not expecting more than 3-4 newcomers.
I'm pretty sure Incineroar and Geno will be it for unique newcomers.
 

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Why would anyone be pro-box to begin with?
I'm at the point where I'm actively hoping Ken and Incineroar are it for the base game. I'm already thrilled with the roster and all the whining from the anti-boxers got annoying long, long ago.
 

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It's the smugness. The overwhelming need to prove people wrong on the internet.
It's hilarious and embarrassing.
yeah. The only reason I believe the way I do isn’t cause I don’t think the box theory isn’t true, which of course we don’t know either way, I just don’t care. I’m intentionally ignoring it because this is a game to me and I’m picking the less boring route.
I’ve heard someone say “why would you intentionally be wrong that’s not fun” and that’s such a stupid point of view in speculative environment to impose on someone else lol

Other people are acting like they have an important stake in this when they don’t
Nothing will hurt you folks if the box ends up true or false
Most people would like it to be false
These are facts
 

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Normally I'm the guy who tells everyone to lower their expectations, but I'm sticking with my gut instinct and saying the (presumably) final Direct will have more than one Echo and one unique.

That being said, regardless of who ends up being right, no one should act cocky about it. Predicting whether or not a cardboard box indicated which characters we would get in a video game isn't exactly something I'd go bragging to my friends.
 

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That's fine and dandy and all, but who is "they"? Spawn Wave, perhaps?
You mean their insider? Yeah, they think that it should be on november 8.


Weird coindence about final smash direct's "leaked" date is same day as August's Smash Direct, few months agos from now.
 

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...Yeah, why not?

Is two newcomers left such a big assumption with 44 days left till release?
Yes, it is a big assumption. Because we had a Direct with 5 newcomers--it's the only precedent we have so far for this game. If you mean two unique newcomers, it's always possible, but that would mean someone in addition to Kencineroar. It's always possible, but it's highly unlikely, especially taking Verge's rumors at face value, that Kencineroar is it.
 

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I know, but why do you think that he works for demo unit? That's not media relation thing. Media relation involves working with media, and their purpose of informing public about organisation's missions or their works. Meanwhile, demo unit = games that can be played for short time, in other it is basically demonstration of game with short time.

I think you have demo unit and media relation mixed up.
https://twitter.com/EGPRCHAMP/status/1051911509306011648
 

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There will be more than just 1 echo and 1 unique imo, ultimately there's no reason for you to believe me so we'll just have to revisit this is a few weeks. I'd be willing to make a bet with the people that think we only have 1 echo and 1 unique left though.
 

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Yes, it is a big assumption. Because we had a Direct with 5 newcomers--it's the only precedent we have so far for this game. If you mean two unique newcomers, it's always possible, but that would mean someone in addition to Kencineroar. It's always possible, but it's highly unlikely, especially taking Verge's rumors at face value, that Kencineroar is it.
And since then the director said "he revealed too much too quickly".
 

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And then I remembered Master Fortress. Would anybody take Master Fortress again? It couldn't be a terrible thing, right? I'd give it another try.
Honestly, Wii U Master Core+Fortress was one of my favorite things about its Classic Mode.

I hope that they do something cool like that in Ultimate as well, fighting Master Core was the best.
 
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