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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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KMDP

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I have no Sony console so I cant really follow the Story and World series
Im just waiting for Digimon Survive to come out
Digimon Survive is going to be the most SMT Digimon game yet.

Don't believe me? Just look at the promotional images. :laugh:
 

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IMO Hilda would be far worse than Dark Pit. Like Hilda's the most "because echo" character out there. Did anyone even want her in the game before E3?
The only Hilda we need in Smash

Then again, she's already got an alt based on her... so I'm fine
 
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Hey, it's a Zelda character at least.
It'd be adding a Zelda character for the sake of adding a Zelda character. If you do that, might as well add Impa as a Sheik echo seeing as how some people actually want her.
 
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TreeBranch

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It'd be adding a Zelda character for the sake of adding a Zelda character. If you do that, might as well add Impa as a Sheik echo seeing as how some people actually want her.
I'm honestly pretty certain that's happening. Impa had tons of support during the ballot from what I remember. More than any other Zelda character I believe
 

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I think he meant having Fire Emblem 6, 7 and 8 play like Awakening and Conquest do; sort of like what Echoes does for Gaiden.

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Though I'm picturing a remake of Genealogy of the Holy War with the entirety of Thracia 776 relegated to x Chapters between whatever FE4 chapters 6 and 7 become when condensed into more traditional Fire Emblem chapters.
I wouldn't mind a Thracia 776 remake being packaged with a Genealogy remake and even getting some sort of benefit for linking game files or something, but they shouldn't be part of the same game imo. Different characters, stories, mechanics, etc. It would also ruin the pacing of FE4's second gen by cramming an entire game in there.

The thing with Echoes is that it didn't play like Awakening and Conquest, it played like Gaiden which has some of the "oddest" gameplay in the series, and that's why it has a bad rep with the more mainstream audience. Idk if it would be too much work but I think remakes with Conquest gameplay that would allow you to unlock the original game's gameplay in a sort of New Game+ would be pretty cool. Nu-fans get a fun game, while old fans get a remake/modernization. Everyone wins.
 

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Digimon Survive is going to be the most SMT Digimon game yet.

Don't believe me? Just look at the promotional images. :laugh:
Also helps that the recent Digimon games on the PS4 have been using the Devil Summoner series artist:

 

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What do you mean Awakening's format, like having 6 + 7 as 2nd and 1st generations in one game? I think they are already doing the best they could with remakes by keeping SOV's gameplay as close as possible to Gaiden while spicing it up with experimental things like combat arts and now series-staple supports, plus a modern coat of paint (NES games just look nasty.)

I can understand introducing things like pair-up to games without it, reclassing for replayability, casual mode, more supports etc. but having every remake fit into an Awakening cookie cutter just doesn't seem logical for most games' story and gameplay structures. The biggest things to get people to play these games are accessibility and marketing. Before Awakening more than half of the franchise was literally Japan-exclusive and the other half was marketed like ****. Who's gonna play an unknown IP that they have no nostalgia for that's in a niche genre? I think the groundwork they have laid with Heroes will do just fine to keep getting people interested in the older titles as they are remade and released on Virtual Console.
I don't mean the second generation thing. That should stick exclusively to Awakening. Fates tried to force it in there and it did not work. The story doesn't account for it.

I more mean the casual mode, the side encounters to help grind your team's levels, the grouping system in combat, the romantic S supports, things like that. What I mean to say is that a very large chunk of the FE fanbase that started with Awakening-- and this is my take on it, not something backed by any specific stat besides sales and internet popularity-- is in it for all the aspects that detract from a legitimate tactics game. The things that make it easier. More character/"ship" driven. I feel like the fans of Awakening and Fates that enjoy casual mode and replaying it to choose different couples/kids will never get into the older Fire Emblems. They'll just pretend to know about them through FE Heroes.
 

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I should probably keep it related to Smash:

How would y'all react to them bringing back old Smash games to the Switch via Virtual Console an E-Shop rerelease/the Nintendo Online Service? I think screwing around in 64 could be fun for ****s and giggles, people would love Melee on modern hardware, and I'd love to play through Subspace on my Switch for good ol' nostalgia's sake.
 

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I still remember how the female protagonist in Survivor 2 has boobs that defy physics.
Yeah uh...
It's a bit weird.
It's kinda a meme within the Megaten community.


You can guess who Yasuda is pretty easily.
 
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beans

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Also helps that the recent Digimon games on the PS4 have been using the Devil Summoner series artist:

When will we get the crossover of DS with Digimon?
SMT got one with FE and that was kinda cool.
And they got Dante once.
 

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I should probably keep it related to Smash:

How would y'all react to them bringing back old Smash games to the Switch via Virtual Console an E-Shop rerelease/the Nintendo Online Service? I think screwing around in 64 could be fun for ****s and giggles, people would love Melee on modern hardware, and I'd love to play through Subspace on my Switch for good ol' nostalgia's sake.

Why not, honestly?
 

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So, does this mean Castlevania music, or am I just stupid?
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Translated thanks to google...
【Today's Music】 You can now listen to "Losing Painting" of "Akumajo Dracula X Moonlight of the Moon" at the official website. Memory until we get "Valmeuwe" will revive. It will be arranged by Mr. Tetsuya Shibata of the unique note. Please listen with headphones by all means!
So basically, yes
 

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Ooooh, it even explicitly says you should listen with headphones. Can't wait till it's actually posted.
 

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Ooh Castlevania music! Nice!

...please don't shaft Sonic please don't shaft Sonic PLEASE DON'T SHAFT SONIC!!
 

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Yeah uh...
It's a bit weird.
It's kinda a meme within the Megaten community.


You can guess who Yasuda is pretty easily.
Yeah, she got a really weird neck
Also I cant see Doi's hair problem
 

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No, it's very clearly you who is in possession of them at present.
I’ll let you borrow them to complete this task
:ultdaisy::ultdarksamus: and :ultchrom: are naturally getting the least votes since they're nearly 1:1 clones of characters we've already been playing since Melee.
But...I got nothing for Daisy and DS other than their popularity (Chrom wasn’t in my equation due to him being...him...)
Yeah, I just think clones aren't going to be the top of anyone's lists usually. I'm stoked for Dark Samus though. If she was a fully unique fighter she might even have been my #1
#LoveEchoesMore
IMO Hilda would be far worse than Dark Pit. Like Hilda's the most "because echo" character out there. Did anyone even want her in the game before E3?
Nobody can ever be a bigger echo than Dark Pit...don’t disrespect the copy king
 
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