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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Pyra

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Gimme a feature where we can dress Mario in any costume you have unlocked for him in your Odyssey save

Before you get mad, I don't care
 
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:ultbayonetta:-Jenanne
:ultbowser:- Wart
:ultbowserjr:- Fawful?
:ultfalcon:- Blood Falcon
:ultcloud:- Sepiroth
:ultcorrin:- Azura
:ultdiddy:- Dixie Kong
:ultdk:- Funky Kong
:ultduckhunt:- Hogan's Alley guys
:ultfalco:- Peppy
:ultfox:- Slippy
:ultganondorf:- Zant
:ultgreninja:- Chesnaught
:ulticeclimbers:- Sushi Striker
:ultike:-Michah
:ultinkling:-Octoling
:ultisabelle:-Digby
:ultjigglypuff:-Stunky
:ultkingdedede:- Bandana Dee
:ultkrool:- Lord Frederick
:ultkirby:- Dark Matter
:ultlink:- Mipha
:ultlittlemac:- Doc Louis
:ultlucas:- Masked Man
:ultluigi:- Waluigi
:ultmario:- Toad
:ultmarth:- Merric
:ultlucina:- Owain/Odin
:ultmegaman:- Proto Man
:ultmetaknight:- Galacta Knight
:ultmewtwo:- Genesect
:ultmiifighters:- More Miis
:ultgnw:- Labo
:ultness:- Porky
:ultolimar:- Louie
:ultpacman:- Ghosts
:ultpalutena:- Viridi
:ultpeach:- Pauline
:ultdaisy:- Boo?
:ultpichu:- Igglybuff
:ultpikachu:- Marill
:ultlucario:- Lycanroc
:ultpit:- Medusa
:ultdarkpit:-Hades
:ultpokemontrainer:- Hoenn Trainer
:ultridley:- Kraid
:ultrob:- Another Labo
:ultrobin- Validar
:ultrosalina:- Lubba
:ultroy:- Leif
:ultchrom:- Sully
:ultryu:- Ken
:ultsamus:- Takamaru?
:ultdarksamus:- SA-X
:ultsheik:- Impa
:ultshulk:- Rex
:ultsimon:- Maxwell
:ultrichter:-Lily
:ultsnake:- Doomguy?
:ultsonic:- Tails
:ulttoonlink:- Tetra
:ultvillager:- Tom Nook
:ultwario:- Ashley
:ultwiifittrainer:- Wii Sports Miis
:ultwolf:- Walhart from Fire Emblem
:ultyoshi:- Birdo
:ultyounglink:- Baby Mario
:ultzelda:- Hilda
:ultzss:- Zero (Kirby) wearing a Samus suit.
Nice list. But seriously though, why is Kirby with Dark Matter:laugh:? What about Gooey? He's a Dark Matter himself so that could work.
 

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Smash Game: Remove one, add another.

I'll start.

Remove: :ultdarkpit:

Add: Dillon

Extra points for controversial.
For me personally: Remove :ultsheik:, Add Impa
Nothing too major, but I think Impa deserved the spot more for being more prevalent in the Zelda series.

Now to get REAL controversial: Remove :ultsnake:, Add KOS-MOS.
I have nothing against Metal Gear, but if I had to go w/ one Konami series for Smash, it would be Castlevania.
KOS-MOS shouldn't be too surprising of a pick if you know me by now (or if you look at my signature).



That's a funny way to say :ultbowserjr:
*Looks at post*
*Looks at Smash 4 main and all-time most wanted character*

You better not come at my boi Zinith.
Or the spoopy monster in my profile pic will come for you.
 
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Jovahexeon Joranvexeon

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Well... on the bright side, at least Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright finally got some acknowledgement in Smash... :lol:
*GASP!* WHen I saw this message without the context I was afraid that Phoenix Wright had been announced as an Assist Trophy. When Capcom said this would be a big year for Ace Attorney fans, they better not be trying to shill an AT after they've failed to provide anything else concrete and exciting for veterans this year as they promised. :U

Anyway, is there any news brewing around lately?
 

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I can finally play with the Mario alt I’ve always wanted:


And it’d give me a reason to play Mario too.

why is shulk the only one allowed to have a boxer alt?
let me run around in Smash as Mario with no clothes on except boxers.

And an axe lodged in his head.
 

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Cut: :ultdarkpit:
Add: Octoling

Cut: :ultroy:
Add: Isaac

Cut: :ultdoc:
Add: Raiden (MGS2)

Cut: :ultyounglink:
Add: Impa

I tried to do that characters would take the same amount of effort as the ones I cut. Dark Pit is an echo, so replace him with an echo. Dr Mario & Young Link are semi clones, so replace them with other semi clones.

Roy & Isaac is just because they’re swordsman lmao
 
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CrunchyCHEEZIT

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Why would he be standing in a sea of two shades of blue instead of a background?
It probably isn't his trailer, but I don't think it's supposed to be a render image or anything like that. That model could be applied to anywhere - it could be on an unrelated loading screen, it could be apart of that super secret mode (story mode cutscene? talksprite? menu render? smash run???)
It's definitely the best looking Geno model I've seen - I wish it was true for that fact alone. Every other model just looks... wrong.
 

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So... I'm late to this but about the Geno leak. Not sure if it's been debunked here or not, but I'm not sold on it. And I say that as a Geno fan. I will admit that the victory screen image is a fair bit more convincing than the CSS image... but it doesn't have the same intricacies that rendered the Ken leak indisputable. While I want it to be real I'm not all sold just yet.
 

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Even though the hype season for this game has been pretty weak (thanks vergeben), I think it's a good tradeoff for getting a great game in the end. Brawl and Smash 4 had amazing pre-release hype season, but the games themselves were quite underwhelming. Brawl has the slowest gameplay in the series, and Smash 4 had a signficant lack of game modes.
 

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So... I'm late to this but about the Geno leak. Not sure if it's been debunked here or not, but I'm not sold on it. And I say that as a Geno fan. I will admit that the victory screen image is a fair bit more convincing than the CSS image... but it doesn't have the same intricacies that rendered the Ken leak indisputable. While I want it to be real I'm not all sold just yet.
No one should be sold on it. The victory screen Geno is horrifying.

But the fact remains that sassy Geno (I coined this name, it's my baby of a leak now, I have adopted it as my favorite) is one of the most likely suspects for the rumored true leak.
 

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I just can't accept that pretty much all of this game's character renders have them posed in ways that express their personalities well while being visually interesting, and then you just have Banjo snarling at a smug Kazooie. It doesn't look or feel right.
Well kazooie did know how to push banjos buttons though, she’d peck his head in their idle animation and laugh about it, she’d say some VERY suggestive and cheeky things to either embarrass banjo or frustrate him and everyone around. I’d say it’s quite a believable image of him. It doesn’t look lik he’s about to rip her to shreds, more him being annoyed by her antics, which is something he was occasionally known to express in the original games but the hardware wasn’t good enough yet to show it, so you needed to rely on what their dialog said.
 

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It probably isn't his trailer, but I don't think it's supposed to be a render image or anything like that. That model could be applied to anywhere - it could be on an unrelated loading screen, it could be apart of that super secret mode (story mode cutscene? talksprite? menu render? smash run???)
It's definitely the best looking Geno model I've seen - I wish it was true for that fact alone. Every other model just looks... wrong.
It could also be an unlock notification screen like the ones in Smash 4. How does everyone end up forgetting those?
 

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I can finally play with the Mario alt I’ve always wanted:


And it’d give me a reason to play Mario too.

why is shulk the only one allowed to have a boxer alt?
As someone who knew nothing about Shulk during Smash 4, it was the reason I played as him. :grin:
 

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The weird thing about all of these Mario Odyssey costumes is that they all got datamined back in April.

I'm assuming we're getting the Santa one near Christmas then.
 

CrunchyCHEEZIT

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So... I'm late to this but about the Geno leak. Not sure if it's been debunked here or not, but I'm not sold on it. And I say that as a Geno fan. I will admit that the victory screen image is a fair bit more convincing than the CSS image... but it doesn't have the same intricacies that rendered the Ken leak indisputable. While I want it to be real I'm not all sold just yet.
Victory screen? You mean the most recent one with that horrible model?
You dudes have to have some more faith in Ultimate's designers and Sakurai himself if you think they'd give the O-K on such an ugly model.
 

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Now that I have Daisy, Midna is my most desired character. I'm with you.

But the joke was that it's another Link.
Whoosh.

I’m okay with Wolf Link though. But if he holds a sword in his mouth or something I’m out.

Jk I’d play the hell out of them, especially if he held a sword in his mouth
 
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So... I'm late to this but about the Geno leak. Not sure if it's been debunked here or not, but I'm not sold on it. And I say that as a Geno fan. I will admit that the victory screen image is a fair bit more convincing than the CSS image... but it doesn't have the same intricacies that rendered the Ken leak indisputable. While I want it to be real I'm not all sold just yet.
Supposedly the victory screen leak was debunked as the creator came out.
Well kazooie did know how to push banjos buttons though, she’d peck his head in their idle animation and laugh about it, she’d say some VERY suggestive and cheeky things to either embarrass banjo or frustrate him and everyone around. I’d say it’s quite a believable image of him. It doesn’t look lik he’s about to rip her to shreds, more him being annoyed by her antics, which is something he was occasionally known to express in the original games but the hardware wasn’t good enough yet to show it, so you needed to rely on what their dialog said.
Not that I disagree but I just can't see Sakurai/the art team picking those expressions for this game considering how much art of Banjo-Kazooie has them looking upbeat and raring (HA) for adventure.
 

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Wait, was there ANOTHER Geno leak I missed? Someone wanna hook me up? I only know of the "condesending Geno" one.
 
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inb4 the real leak rumor is true, and it ends up being one of the many bad, good-looking but painted, memes, and/or existing assets leaks instead of this awesome Sassy Geno leak.

why
 
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Does anyone not get the context of that post?
Don't worry. I know a joke when I see one. ;)
But I'll still summon the spoopy monster if you're not.

It could also be an unlock notification screen like the ones in Smash 4. How does everyone end up forgetting those?
Probably since it only took like a couple of hours to unlock all the characters in Smash 4; there were only 8 (12 in 3DS). In my opinion, unlocking characters just wasn't as impactful in Smash 4 as it was in Melee or Brawl.
 
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Okay, I'm bored again, so I'll give a task/challenge for imagination.

Try to give every playable character a team partner (can only have 1), but it has to make sense (characters should fit well together). Or just come up with just some if it's that hard.
Palutena and Bayonetta (Light and Dark)
 
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Wait, was there ANOTHER Geno leak I missed? Someone wanna hook me up?
We're just talking about sassy Geno again...
aka
Some of us are assuming it could possibly be the legit leak that one guy was talking about
 
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Supposedly the victory screen leak was debunked as the creator came out.

Not that I disagree but I just can't see Sakurai/the art team picking those expressions for this game considering how much art of Banjo-Kazooie has them looking upbeat and raring (HA) for adventure.
Yeah, initially I thought "I can find some promo art where he looks like that", and initially thought it was possible because of "Smash Face" (like the face Mario does when demonstrating Tournament Mode). But as "the render" (though, to be fair, it could be an initial design for something else, rather than the official render) it seems like an odd choice. Still, there are other things that debunk it such as freckles, misalignments, and the promo comparisons. I just wish we had more to go off if "ruffled some feathers" could be a hint as papagenos suggested as a possibility.
 

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Honestly, I've lost track of all these fake leaks.

It takes an awful lot more than a render, no matter how good it is, to convince me.
 

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Supposedly the victory screen leak was debunked as the creator came out.

Not that I disagree but I just can't see Sakurai/the art team picking those expressions for this game considering how much art of Banjo-Kazooie has them looking upbeat and raring (HA) for adventure.
Fair, but I could also still see them use one like that.

Of course just like geno, so long as they get in I’ll be happy.

Really I only want 3 more characters in smash
Geno
Banjo and kazooie(ok so technically they’re two characters)
Isaac(mostly for the Isaac fans themselves and less for me as I’ve never played a gs game)

After that I could care less who else gets in.

Unless they add a Cartoon character like goku...
 
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