Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Heracr055]

Bar Theory appears miles better than "Nintendo didn't show us Isaac in the Direct because of some earthquake" theory

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Joking aside, I don't think you'd be wrong, since Ezio was one among the huge amount of names Xander announced so he wouldn't know the full roster.

Actually, he said it was Altaïr, not Ezio... Which kinda weirded him out,...

 

[CannonStreak]

Ah, Bar theory. If only I didn't have to take certain medicine, I could get drunk without getting killed to enjoy this theory. Still, better than music and box theory.

 

[SonicMario]

>Event in Canada

I can't believe it

We're getting Wayne Gretzky in Smash

:V

 

[NineS]

Would this be the first possibly notable Smash event that is happening outside of the U.S. and Japan, that will not happen in the U.S. or Japan at some point?

 

[Phobos_Anomaly]

I just remembered...
Weed is getting legalized here on Wednesday...
M-maybe it has something to do with that, it'd explain why they dont want to talk about it yet lol

So basically Funky Kong confirmed then

 

[Shroob]

I think we need to remind ourselves:


"We don't even know it's Smash-related yet"

 

[Iko MattOrr]

King Dedede seems to enjoy the box.

(the artwork is not made by me, it's an official artwork from Kirby's Japanese Twitter; I just edited and added effects to it).

 

[xAquaCrystal]

I decided to check into this since I was curious about this as well, and I have found a few instances for December Directs. I'll do a general list to try and keep this looking neat:

12/7/2011: Covered 3DS and Wii games, was also Nintendo's 2nd-ever direct (with the first being 10/21 of the same year). Was Japan-only.
12/5/2012: Covered 3DS and Wii U games.
12/19/2012: Dragon Quest X was covered, and it was a Nintendo Direct Mini. Japan-only, considering DQX didn't release in the west.
12/18/2013: Covered 3DS and Wii U games.
12/15/2015: Smash 4 DLC Direct, which announced our remaining DLC fighters.

So a general Direct for next year's titles could be possible, though it might be determined by how soon we get our next information for Ultimate. It is possible to have a Smash Direct in November and a general one in December though, as November of 2015 had that happen in reverse. It's certainly within the realm of possibility.

I see. Thank you ^^ So yea there could be a possibility to have maybe a mini direct about fire emblem or a direct in general. We still don’t know much about other games like bayonetta 3 (it been confirmed the development is going smooth), Smt5 or Metroid prime 4. But I have a feeling these games will be in a Spring direct though.

 

[ThatRedPlumber]

So basically Funky Kong confirmed then

Hell yeah dude, I’d be down.

 

[ErenJager]

Probably announcing DLC characters for Mario vs. Rabidds.

 

[CosmicQuark]

So at this point, I'm expecting only a final direct left, and no more individual reveals. I think the "lower rate" comment by Sakurai was just specifying that there would be significantly fewer announcements left, and I'm putting my money on just one more: A Smash Direct.

On the low end, 2 Characters (1 echo and 1 unique): Ken and Incineroar obviously


On the high end, 6 (3 echoes and 3 Uniques). My guesses are:
- Ken (leaked)
- Incineroar (allegedly leaked)
- Shadow (Like Isabelle)
- Skull Kid (Like Isabelle)
- Dixie (Diddy's missing colors so far and jab)
- Geno (Square rep possibly)

Replace any of the above with Elma, Isaac, BWD, or RH rep, even Celica as well, as each have some pretty decent merits for being in the game. Characters like Black Shadow, Medusa, and Black Knight are possible shoe-ins for obvious echoes, but who knows. I personally don't think Steve is a character and only AT related content, and rather Banjo will be one of the first DLC characters. My personal opinion though.

So anywhere from 2-6, but I still dream that Sakurai will bamboozle us and just give us all 14 of the characters I just mentioned

Tl;dr: scientifically proven 14+ more characters or your money back guaranteed.


Edit: I'm going to assume the direct will be anywhere from October 18th (this Thursday) to November 2nd. Anything after is pushing for a really bad leak to happen.

I'm thinking if we get only one more Direct, the most likely scenario is 5 characters--and even that's pushing it, unless some characters are revealed alongside one another (like Simon/Richter).

I think Ken and Incineroar are the most likely, because of Verge's rumors and the Ken leak. If there are no more stages (the pessimistic view), then the SE rep would mostly likely be Geno. If there are more stages, other characters like Sora become more likely as the SE rep. I feel like the only other character who's most likely in outside of Verge's predictions is Shadow--missing assist, presumably replaced by Knuckles, easy echo. I really would love Dixie to be in, but I can't see more than 2 echoes being in, and her evidence requires much more inference. Likewise other missing assists (e.g., Skull Kid) would have to be unique, and have a lower chance than echoes.

If there are more than 4 characters, however, I do believe Banjo & Kazooie has the best shot. Rumored Minecraft content suggests Microsoft's involved, and unless they came in late, would probably have a playable character--and Banjo's popularity surged in 2015, during the ballot, so the timing works out. Add to that Microsoft going back to their N64 design, it seems to be lining up. However, my doubt is in the number of characters--I can't see how 3 unique characters would be in one Direct. Outside of that, given their popularity, and some possible indications from Ultimate itself, I could see Skull Kid or Bandana Waddle Dee being in. Less so echoes like Black Shadow, Medusa, Black Knight--Isabelle really put a big question mark in how echoes are chosen and how many we'll actually have, as I had originally thought it would be 50/50. I'm much less certain about Rhythm Heaven and Elma, given their indications is outside of Ultimate itself, but they're the most interesting unique first parties to me, along with Isaac. It's tough--it feels like if it's only one Direct, it may contain only information that's already been rumored, or too stuffed. *fingers crossed*

 

[Paperchampion23]

I'm thinking if we get only one more Direct, the most likely scenario is 5 characters--and even that's pushing it, unless some characters are revealed alongside one another (like Simon/Richter).

I think Ken and Incineroar are the most likely, because of Verge's rumors and the Ken leak. If there are no more stages (the pessimistic view), then the SE rep would mostly likely be Geno. If there are more stages, other characters like Sora become more likely as the SE rep. I feel like the only other character who's most likely in outside of Verge's predictions is Shadow--missing assist, presumably replaced by Knuckles, easy echo. I really would love Dixie to be in, but I can't see more than 2 echoes being in, and her evidence requires much more inference. Likewise other missing assists (e.g., Skull Kid) would have to be unique, and have a lower chance than echoes.

If there are more than 4 characters, however, I do believe Banjo & Kazooie has the best shot. Rumored Minecraft content suggests Microsoft's involved, and unless they came in late, would probably have a playable character--and Banjo's popularity surged in 2015, during the ballot, so the timing works out. Add to that Microsoft going back to their N64 design, it seems to be lining up. However, my doubt is in the number of characters--I can't see how 3 unique characters would be in one Direct. Outside of that, given their popularity, and some possible indications from Ultimate itself, I could see Skull Kid or Bandana Waddle Dee being in. Less so echoes like Black Shadow, Medusa, Black Knight--Isabelle really put a big question mark in how echoes are chosen and how many we'll actually have, as I had originally thought it would be 50/50. I'm much less certain about Rhythm Heaven and Elma, given their indications is outside of Ultimate itself, but they're the most interesting unique first parties to me, along with Isaac. It's tough--it feels like if it's only one Direct, it may contain only information that's already been rumored, or too stuffed. *fingers crossed*

I do think we'll be generally surprised. No credible leak had leaked Chrom, Richter, Dark Samus or K. Rool in the August direct. It's very possibly there are several characters that could surprise us.

 

[SAMation]

I think one thing about this bar theory that makes it feel like its something more than just a smash demo event is that even the bar doesnt know what it is. Usually with a smash demo you'd think that they would be open to the establishment about it since its been at plenty of events before, but the secrecy of this is pretty strange.

 

[Zinith]

Oh please tell me everyone's saying "bar theory" as a practical joke. I had enough "Poe's Law" for a lifetime!!!

 

[Calane]

There's a bar theory now?

Are you guys just joking around, or is this actually a real thing.

 

[Ring-a-Sheep]

So a box and a blog walk into a bar...

 

[CosmicQuark]

I do think we'll be generally surprised. No credible leak had leaked Chrom, Richter, Dark Samus or K. Rool in the August direct. It's very possibly there are several characters that could surprise us.

I think it would be very likely to have surprise characters not rumored--what makes me doubt that, however, is if we only have one Direct left, any surprise character would cause the Direct to be more content than in the August Direct. Perhaps a character or two could be revealed with the single player mode, and not necessarily at the beginning/end. But it does concern me that the characters so far rumored would not require a stage--could be coincidental, and I hope it is.

 

[kylexv]

Eh nevermind. Guess i can't read

 

[Shadowwolflink]

How many Canadian stereotypes are there again? I forget.
Maple syrup on everything, love for moose, extremely nice and apologetic people, finishing every sentence with "Eh?"

Where do these even stem from anyway?

Fighting, we Canadians are nice, but fist fights happen often too.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Never got a chance to respond to this but wanted to:

I know this question is not smash related but are there any other games you are looking forward to besides smash?

Metroid Prime 4, New Pokémon Gen, Mortal Kombat 11, SoulCalibur, Samurai Shodown, Luigi’s Mansion 3, Animal Crossing, Starlink, Civ 6 for Switch, Injustice 3, Marvel vs Capcom Infinite-rebranded-to-4-if-you-believe-Verge, Bioware’s Anthem, Bethseda’s Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6, and Fallout, CD Projeck’s Cyberpunk 2077, and continued support for games such as Street Fighter V, Tekken 7, Dragonball Fighter Z, Destiny 2, Overwatch, and Heroes of the Storm.

 

[Potato_]

So a box and a blog walk into a bar...

Oh ho ho you're clever aren't you.


Also I was looking for Canadian video game characters to meme with but it turns out there aren't many. Makes me sad.

 

[Ring-a-Sheep]

How have we not made a "...walks into a bar" joke yet?

So a box and a blog walk into a bar...

 

[Maxoxpower]

en toute honnêteté
Bibi et Genevieve for smash!

Kidding

i think it'S maybe Killer Queen Black .

arcade mtl is a bar with great arcade games and killer queen black is a upcoming great arcade game







guys ...go try maple syrup and canadian MILK. it's awesome.

 

[CosmicQuark]

Oh please tell me everyone's saying "bar theory" as a practical joke. I had enough "Poe's Law" for a lifetime!!!

These theories have caused me to be so ironic, I have no clue what I'm genuine about or parodying any more.

How have we not made a "...walks into a bar" joke yet?

So a box and a blog walk into a bar...

Oof. EDIT:

 

[Splotim]

If it was something in NY, LA or Japan I might think it was important, but a screening just in Canada? It’s probably just a demo of smash or some other unrelated thing.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

I know this question is not smash related but are there any other games you are looking forward to besides smash?
Edit: I forgot to put my list. I’m not thinking y’all lol
2018:
Soul calibur 6
Spyro
2019:
Animal crossing
fire emblem 3 houses
Devil may cry 5
Sekiro shadows die twice (I think it’s coming out next year)
Final fantasy 10/7 yea I never played these games

Three Houses
Animal Crossing
Pokemon Gen 8
Metroid Prime 4
Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition
New Tales of Game (assuming it comes to switch)
Yoshi
Final Fantasy (all but 7 since I played it)
Bayonetta 3
Peachette Bros U
And a new Zelda game if that pattern holds up

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Any news or same chaos as usual?

 

[CosmicQuark]

Any news or same chaos as usual?

As is usual, both.

(possible news if our interpretation of a Nintendo event possibly occurring on October 18th is correct... which it probably isn't going by past precedent)

 

[Iko MattOrr]

So a box and a blog walk into a bar...

They respectively sit on a yellow and a purple chair.

 

[Danpal65]

They respectively sit on a yellow and a purple chair.

And talk about the weird character-shaped clouds they've been seeing recently.

 

[Shroob]

They respectively sit on a yellow and a purple chair.

And the Music gets mugged in the alleyway on its way leaving the bar.

 

[AugustusB]

They respectively sit on a yellow and a purple chair.

When suddenly the music plays two songs from the same soundtrack. Needless to say, the patrons are a bit annoyed.

EDIT: Technical

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

>bar theory

You guys are REALLY desperate for news, aren't ya.

 

[Aurane]

You know, I was debating on whether or not I should post this, but you know what? No other time is better.

 

[SAMation]

>bar theory

You guys are REALLY desperate for news, aren't ya.

We're all a little desperate, just want to believe the inevitable direct will be here soon.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

We're all a little desperate, just want to believe the inevitable direct will be here soon.

I’m not desperate due to having something to keep me insane yet still sane

 

[KMDP]

If there's one Canadian rep we should get, it's this guy.

And don't you deny it.

Winnie-the-Pooh isn't Canadian, he's British.

He's just named after a Canadian Bear.
(Unless I'm an idiot and that isn't Winnie-the-Pooh)

 

[StormC]

Stuff like this at least gives us dates to anticipate. It's like passing by checkpoints in a level in a video game.

A very, very long level.

 

[NineS]

Stuff like this at least gives us dates to anticipate. It's like passing by checkpoints in a level in a video game.

A very, very long level.

Must be one of those ice or underwater levels, then.
Always hated those... Took me ages to complete.

Why must ice levels exist?